Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan
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Looks like ceasefire is more or less confirmed now. India comes out looking better. New precedent has been set by our armed forces.
Prior to that Pak will acquire J-35 and more PL-15, PL-21 etc. In such short wars political and strategic objects matter less and trophies matter more as they change public opinions, emotions and morale.
Yep, can't keep feeding them for free forever. Gotta put them to work. Makes things worse with all the anger they must have built up since the first day.
For that, you launch many and pepper the runway with small craters.
But yeah, I guess a post-penetration explosion can create such a crater compared to a surface blast. I'll give you that. Generally, it's pretty hard to damage runways.
Anyone notice how Shiv Aroors tweet first said shoot down confirmed by corps commander. Then edited to high level military official.
Officially we have not declared anything on Pak shootdowns yet or did we?
Officially we have not declared anything on Pak shootdowns yet or did we?
They need advanced communications and an IADS, not another fighter.
They were out of it even before operations began.
Now that ceasefire has been intiated, here are some of the positive and negative things of this war/face-off in my opinion.
1. Our IADS: When doomers of this site usually moaned and wailed about Modi gov.'s undoings in defence sector, I told them that how potent our IADS had become post Galwan. In future with 30KW, 100KW, 300KW and then 1MW DEW/Laser weapons officially deployed, our already formidable ADS would become an order of magnitude more potent.
Pakistanis saw how our IADS swatted their jets, drones, cruise missiles and even SRBMs almost 100% and they panicked knowing that this nuke MAD scenario won't work now 'cause India would almost intercept all Pak nukes while destroying Pakistan fully in return through our TRIAD.
2. IAF: IAF once again proved why their training and tactics is the best. I mean penetrating Pak IADS for almost 20 minutes without doing SEAD and neutralizing the enemy targets without losing a single jet is simply unbelievable and amazing stuff.
Rafales/Scalp combo proved its worth. Now order more ASAP.
MKI + BrahMos as I wanted and predicted not only destroyed Pak targets but broke their morale too. Those criticizing Indian/Russian weapons and peddling for US stuff(like few members here) should be ashamed of themselves. With UPG. version MKI will became even more potent and deadly.
Negatives:
The alleged Rafale shootdown. We said that we didn't lose any air asset during the operation or we didn't lose any air-warriors. But we never said that we didn't lose any jets in our territory. That M-88 video, if not Chinese deep fake, looked legit, IMO. If true then it's big loss for us and also politically for Modi. Anyways, now that CF is declared we'll know all details in due time. I still hope we didn't lose any Rafale. But we need to wait to get the full picture.
Conclusion: We learnt our lesson from Swift Retreat and nullified the enemy everywhere be it battlefield or cyber propaganda. We brought Pak Army to its knees as they begged for CF on Indian terms. No more same 2 same. India pounded them with BrahMos-A and they submitted.
In the end, we won this round absolutely explicitly Well done IAF+IA+IN. Proud of you. Jai Hind
1. Our IADS: When doomers of this site usually moaned and wailed about Modi gov.'s undoings in defence sector, I told them that how potent our IADS had become post Galwan. In future with 30KW, 100KW, 300KW and then 1MW DEW/Laser weapons officially deployed, our already formidable ADS would become an order of magnitude more potent.
Pakistanis saw how our IADS swatted their jets, drones, cruise missiles and even SRBMs almost 100% and they panicked knowing that this nuke MAD scenario won't work now 'cause India would almost intercept all Pak nukes while destroying Pakistan fully in return through our TRIAD.
2. IAF: IAF once again proved why their training and tactics is the best. I mean penetrating Pak IADS for almost 20 minutes without doing SEAD and neutralizing the enemy targets without losing a single jet is simply unbelievable and amazing stuff.
Rafales/Scalp combo proved its worth. Now order more ASAP.
MKI + BrahMos as I wanted and predicted not only destroyed Pak targets but broke their morale too. Those criticizing Indian/Russian weapons and peddling for US stuff(like few members here) should be ashamed of themselves. With UPG. version MKI will became even more potent and deadly.
Negatives:
The alleged Rafale shootdown. We said that we didn't lose any air asset during the operation or we didn't lose any air-warriors. But we never said that we didn't lose any jets in our territory. That M-88 video, if not Chinese deep fake, looked legit, IMO. If true then it's big loss for us and also politically for Modi. Anyways, now that CF is declared we'll know all details in due time. I still hope we didn't lose any Rafale. But we need to wait to get the full picture.
Conclusion: We learnt our lesson from Swift Retreat and nullified the enemy everywhere be it battlefield or cyber propaganda. We brought Pak Army to its knees as they begged for CF on Indian terms. No more same 2 same. India pounded them with BrahMos-A and they submitted.
In the end, we won this round absolutely explicitly Well done IAF+IA+IN. Proud of you. Jai Hind
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All optics aside, I see no reason to give Pak a breather at this point. We had then on mat, should have gone for the kill. The political will, rather, the lack there of, comes back to haunt India - AGAIN!
True, India showed their strike capability and Pakistan said fck that I'm out.
But what explains integration MICA on that?Apart from dismissing the tail fin for the moment. There's also an M88 video.
Discussed and rebuted here.
And this is the reason.
You can see the crater on the same type of terrain. The M88 crash site is way too clean.
Apart from that, all other crashes have no wreckages. There's one with a supposed Mirage 2000's M53, but no wreckage. There's another with 2 rings, we can't see the wreckage.
Here's a pic:
This pic was claimed to be 12 years old, but it's actually new. Google Lens sucks with dates. The ring (bottom right) and the wreckage are too small to be from a fighter jet's engine. The scale is completely off.
You can also see what look like two vertical fins. Those look MKI-sized, but the wreckage is too small to be MKI. So they could be fuselage parts from a UAV that are bent forward. It's much more similar to some kind of secret UAV or a Heron.
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The size seems appropriate for a UAV.
And this is the supposed Rafale crash site in Bathinda. It's way too small to be the Rafale.
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It's like a small garbage dump on the ground that doesn't even come up to knee height. The length is good for either a plane or a UAV, but the bulk is not that of a 10T machine. So that's likely another UAV.
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