Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

I think Mk2 will reach production in 2029 maybe 2028. Hopefully we seal the GE414 engine deal soon. Virupaksha with Gandiva on Su 30 MKI UPG will probably start happening in 2028 and will go on until early 2030s. @Rajput Lion @randomradio any chance of these timelines being expedited by GOI? We need to enhance our air power asap.

MKI MLU is expected in 2032 as per HAL. Doubt it can be expedited due to the need for testing. I'm hoping they increase the upgrade rate though, at least 16 instead of 12 every year.
 
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If its as good as Barak,then its a deadly system
The actual problem is their Vshorads they are developing. This is called the sungur
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This has more range of about 8km than our vshorad of 6 km. This is superior the the verba and stinger. The only equivalent is the polish piorun. This will be the best vshorad in its class.
 
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The turks have the Hisar AD and Siper AD.
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The tech seems quite potent. But they are only as good as our Barak 8. Although I would love something like Hisar AD. It has eo targetting so can take out stealth aircrafts.

Apparently some Turkish soldiers were also part of the Pak military group flying htheir drones. Apparently some of them are dead.

No sympathies for the mercenary turks. Sympathies for Pak soldiers coz ultimately they were at least fighting for their country.
 
The actual problem is their Vshorads they are developing. This is called the sungur
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This has more range of about 8km than our vshorad of 6 km. This is superior the the verba and stinger. The only equivalent is the polish piorun. This will be the best vshorad in its class.
Every weapon system you are doing this. Looking at one parameter then calling it superior. What is the weight? what is the altitude?

It's weird considering your obsession with the F-15EX. :LOL:
 
Every weapon system you are doing this. Looking at one parameter then calling it superior. What is the weight? what is the altitude?

It's weird considering your obsession with the F-15EX. :LOL:
I just look at on paper specifications. I want the f-15EX because it can reach mach 2.5 and we need something that does the role of a High altitude interceptor and bomb truck. The su-30 is not an interceptor it's an air superiority fighter. F-15 isn't exactly designed to be an air superiority fighter since its design is based on matching the mig 25. The f-15EX has similar payload capacity as the su-34 and can carry far more advanced munitions than the Flankers. You have JASSM, agm158, jsow, slam-er and variety of American stand off munitions it can fire. Plus it has open missions architecture so we can easily integrate indian and Israeli munitions on top of that 20000 hours of airframe life. Once the era of fifth gen starts we need aircrafts that can carry a huge amount of standoff munitions and missiles that cannot be carried in the bay of a stealth aircraft, f-15EX fits perfectly plus we get our hands on manufacturing an American engine since the ge-414 deal is already happening there won't be a issue if we get our hands on the f110 ge129/132. But it's an expensive deal and Americans are just not worth the time. Especially how Trump has handled the whole indo-pak issue. And the underlying reason is that he has been bought out by the Qataris. So trusting America and american hardware is now a no go because he is a Qatari stooge. And the Qataris are the ones who are the masterminds behind the turkish and pakistani alliance. If anything we really need to start investing in Iran and Afghanistan. We need to go all in for the su-57 and integrate with desi weapons & israeli weapons.
Let's just stick with rafale and work on buying the f-35's if that's even possible now.
 
The actual problem is their Vshorads they are developing. This is called the sungur
FIM-92 Stinger has same range as sungur. 160Meters to 8 KM. And Stinger has a vintage of 80s.

I am sure if India asks nicely, Unkil will give entire technology of Stinger to India.

The only equivalent is the polish piorun.
This is not right. Starstreak and FIM 92A Stinger have same range.
 
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Folks, IMHO, we are talking a LOT about airforce but completely missing one point...
Navy.

Pakistan will receive a bunch of Chinese subs equipped with sterling AIPs... This is BAD. REALLY BAD.
Such subs will have endurance of 14-15 days inside water.

We need to get that damned PAFC AIP working and installed in first Kalavari which comes for refit in September. All of this stupid testing - not testing BS we have been doing need to speed up.

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Folks, IMHO, we are talking a LOT about airforce but completely missing one point...
Navy.

Pakistan will receive a bunch of Chinese subs equipped with sterling AIPs... This is BAD. REALLY BAD.
Such subs will have endurance of 14-15 days inside water.

We need to get that damned PAFC AIP working and installed in first Kalavari which comes for refit in September. All of this stupid testing - not testing BS we have been doing need to speed up.
yes, and they do have capable ASW assets too, P-3s are no slouch and are getting south african are modifying Embraer 1000 jets similar to jet based P-8 we have with european avionics and radar from Leonardo iirc. In PeeDF they mention utilizing a SOSUS kinda system along their coast they have with chinese help. Only thing they are not looking good is Naval Helis, with IN having Romeos now.
 
yes, and they do have capable ASW assets too, P-3s are no slouch and are getting south african are modifying Embraer 1000 jets similar to jet based P-8 we have with european avionics and radar from Leonardo iirc. In PeeDF they mention utilizing a SOSUS kinda system along their coast they have with chinese help. Only thing they are not looking good is Naval Helis, with IN having Romeos now.
We are ahead in ASW with sea guardian drones.