Indian DPSU babu shenanigans

Look how they clean their desk themself!

Where is the catalogue you may ask
It comes from the ministers themselves who in turn are under direct order from PMO driven policy implementation.

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As we know the South Indian offices have less hindi speaking culture, so why BEL Bengaluru is celebrating a Pakhwada event (and other enforced Hindi language related event, can be seen in DRDO newsletter) ? because the Central Govt employees have to follow the order whether they like it or not. This order comes from ministers who do not want to get any blame on themselves, so they devise mechanism to shift the entire directive onto the workforce instead.



 
It comes from the ministers themselves who in turn are under direct order from PMO driven policy implementation.

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As we know the South Indian offices have less hindi speaking culture, so why BEL Bengaluru is celebrating a Pakhwada event (and other enforced Hindi language related event, can be seen in DRDO newsletter) ? because the Central Govt employees have to follow the order whether they like it or not. This order comes from ministers who do not want to get any blame on themselves, so they devise mechanism to shift the entire directive onto the workforce instead.



Wth?? What does language and North-South have to do with this!?

It's initiative of Government of INDIA under swach Bharat mission. It's not a Hindi state initiative nor a tamil, assamese. It's Indian. SIMPLE. Since 2016!

Just as they follow initiatives with English terminology ( non-Indian) all over India . Last I checked Bengaluru was part of India and BEL was under GOI.

Did not expect this from you Marich!
 
It comes from the ministers themselves who in turn are under direct order from PMO driven policy implementation.

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As we know the South Indian offices have less hindi speaking culture, so why BEL Bengaluru is celebrating a Pakhwada event (and other enforced Hindi language related event, can be seen in DRDO newsletter) ? because the Central Govt employees have to follow the order whether they like it or not. This order comes from ministers who do not want to get any blame on themselves, so they devise mechanism to shift the entire directive onto the workforce instead.



What does "Pakhwada" mean?
 
Wth?? What does language and North-South have to do with this!?
Nothing, its just that given its a central govt directive, the entire pakhwada event, or Hindi karmashala type event will have to be followed in every Central Govt org across the country. Even here in Kolkata and Assam, Central Govt offices followed own schedule for such events. Went to Income tax office few month ago and there was some decor in one corridor for such. But vice-versa Pongal or any other region specific festivity related activity, or any other language specific activity is not enforced across the board. There are few such specific directive like the Swachh Bharat that is across the board every year event. Other than that, all fine. The point is its some work enforced activity as opposed to something spontaneous.
 
Nothing, its just that given its a central govt directive, the entire pakhwada event, or Hindi karmashala type event will have to be followed in every Central Govt org across the country. Even here in Kolkata and Assam, Central Govt offices followed own schedule for such events. Went to Income tax office few month ago and there was some decor in one corridor for such. But vice-versa Pongal or any other region specific festivity related activity, or any other language specific activity is not enforced across the board. There are few such specific directive like the Swachh Bharat that is across the board every year event. Other than that, all fine. The point is its some work enforced activity as opposed to something spontaneous.

Wrong comparison. Pongal or any activity.. is just that. Just like how Teej is followed in northern part. Chath puja in Bihar, unique way of celebration of Navratri aka Durga Puja in Bengal..

Neither of these are GOI campaigns. But offices in Bihar will have special timings to allow employees to celebrate chath without compromise, during durgapuja.. most offices will be having their own initiatives at office level. Those are festivities.

Pakhwada has nothing to do with a festivity.

It's like saying "Digital India" is an anglo saxan directive on non-natives.

We can even divide it at state level campaigns by bringing up regional dialect/languages, culture, etc.


Edit: Next genuine query would be asking why GOI not use a kannada word, Tamil word for campaigns. And I will support you. I am all for using Indic terminology from any part of India.
In recent times the govt has indeed come up with various initiatives to close the language divide and alienation felt.. by introducing non-hindi , non urdu languages in courses. Like Tamil, Kannada, Bengali, etc being available and promoted in schools. Some "Sangam" initiatives etc. The AI initiative is very much focused on bringing as much Indic languages together as possible. But no exclusive terminology from other region that I can find for nation level campaign. Which I do find saddening.
 
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Wrong comparison. Pongal or any activity.. is just that. Just like how Teej is followed in northern part. Chath puja in Bihar, unique way of celebration of Navratri aka Durga Puja in Bengal..

Neither of these are GOI campaigns. But offices in Bihar will have special timings to allow employees to celebrate chath without compromise, during durgapuja.. most offices will be having their own initiatives at office level. Those are festivities.

Pakhwada has nothing to do with a festivity.

It's like saying "Digital India" is an anglo saxan directive on non-natives.

We can even divide it at state level campaigns by bringing up regional dialect/languages, culture, etc.


Edit: Next genuine query would be asking why GOI not use a kannada word, Tamil word for campaigns. And I will support you. I am all for using Indic terminology from any part of India.
In recent times the govt has indeed come up with various initiatives to close the language divide and alienation felt.. by introducing non-hindi , non urdu languages in courses. Like Tamil, Kannada, Bengali, etc being available and promoted in schools. Some "Sangam" initiatives etc. The AI initiative is very much focused on bringing as much Indic languages together as possible. But no exclusive terminology from other region that I can find for nation level campaign. Which I do find saddening.
Yeah I did a not like for like comparison , entire point of this being a must follow directive from the very top for some rather vague purpose. Therefore we will see many such instance surrounding this event time to time. This is less reflective of the babu culture because most of it is enforced via directive. Officer rank , technical rank or even in workforce skilled semi skilled, it is kinda odd they have to show how much old files and non used gadgets they auctioned off & generated money for the respective department.
 
Yeah I did a not like for like comparison , entire point of this being a must follow directive from the very top for some rather vague purpose. Therefore we will see many such instance surrounding this event time to time. This is less reflective of the babu culture because most of it is enforced via directive. Officer rank , technical rank or even in workforce skilled semi skilled, it is kinda odd they have to show how much old files and non used gadgets they auctioned off & generated money for the respective department.
Then what's your point in bringing unrelated and stupid north-south divide and language wars into the discussion? And you even misconstrued a term with a event.

You are not new to any discussions, you are also very articulate and understand administrative purposes. And you're good at explaining them structurally.

So, why did you do what you did? Deliberately?
 
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I have seen far too many photos of the babudom showing their useless mugs holding up an unreadable brochure. But not a single useful pic of the poster itself.

I request an AoN for a change in culture to upload brochures!
 
Then what's your point in bringing unrelated and stupid north-south divide and language wars into the discussion? And you even misconstrued a term with a event.

You are not new to any discussions, you are also very articulate and understand administrative purposes. And you're good at explaining them structurally.

So, why did you do what you did? Deliberately?
It was nothing about North South, rather that this event (Rajbhasha activity) is specific thrust given for very serious observation, which does not reflect the supposed babu culture, or even the working culture in Govt offices. There is nothing I posted about North South divide except that BEL units in South region will also have to observe the same. DRDO newsletter also had some listed event related to this in page 30 onward (LINK) . For mention of Pongal, it could also be Durgapuja, or Bihu or the Sohrai from the tribal region. None of these are related to or linked with any must observe event made in the official calendar and are observed as national or regional holidays.

What happens in this specific Swachh Pakhwada, such an enforced elaborate event you will not find this way highlighted by any Pvt company as it is happening with many Govt related Org, psu and other offices via different channel. Some of these are part of CSR activity which find mention in annual reports. Certain Govt backed initiative like Yoga day/week , or meditation week, Nasha mukt Bharat Abhiyaan etc can be understood. What purpose does this clearing out old files and how much money is generated by selling the scraps highlighting posts serve exactly? But employees have to be part of this because the circular directed so.

Ideally this should not bother me or anyone for that matter this much, but certain activity highlights are purely cringe.
 
It was nothing about North South, rather that this event (Rajbhasha activity) is specific thrust given for very serious observation, which does not reflect the supposed babu culture, or even the working culture in Govt offices. There is nothing I posted about North South divide except that BEL units in South region will also have to observe the same. DRDO newsletter also had some listed event related to this in page 30 onward (LINK) . For mention of Pongal, it could also be Durgapuja, or Bihu or the Sohrai from the tribal region. None of these are related to or linked with any must observe event made in the official calendar and are observed as national or regional holidays.

What happens in this specific Swachh Pakhwada, such an enforced elaborate event you will not find this way highlighted by any Pvt company as it is happening with many Govt related Org, psu and other offices via different channel. Some of these are part of CSR activity which find mention in annual reports. Certain Govt backed initiative like Yoga day/week , or meditation week, Nasha mukt Bharat Abhiyaan etc can be understood. What purpose does this clearing out old files and how much money is generated by selling the scraps highlighting posts serve exactly? But employees have to be part of this because the circular directed so.

Ideally this should not bother me or anyone for that matter this much, but certain activity highlights are purely cringe.

Dude. You are confusing two different activities. One is "Rajbhasha Activity" named Hindi Pakhwada for this year.
The one is question is "Swachata Pakhwada".

One is going on since 1950s, while other started in 2016 under swach Bharat campaign.

Swachata Pakhwada.. i.e. A fortnight for Cleanliness has nothing to do with a Rajbhasha Activity or North-South culture. Or enforcing Hindi! Etal.

And this below is what you commented... As I said Pakhwada is just a terminology.

It has as much utility as yoga day etc.. And it's upto the office to decide what activity to plan for the said year. It can be cleaning old files, or some other event. A workshop, anything.

As we know the South Indian offices have less hindi speaking culture, so why BEL Bengaluru is celebrating a Pakhwada event (and other enforced Hindi language related event, can be seen in DRDO newsletter) ? because the Central Govt employees have to follow the order whether they like it or not. This order comes from ministers who do not want to get any blame on themselves, so they devise mechanism to shift the entire directive onto the workforce instead.
 
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Dude. You are confusing two different activities. One is "Rajbhasha Activity" named Hindi Pakhwada for this year.
The one is question is "Swachata Pakhwada".
The cringe part in this whole event is that some/many of the psu units having to public broadcast the outcome part via own social media. Now they are well within their right to do so, but the manner is cringe-worthy no doubt.
Opinion will vary, but such activity is only getting this level of visibility is due to strict directive issued by the higher up. This is what I wanted to point out. Clean their desk furniture as much as they like, have full page dedicated in annual report about it, this is what the usual norm works like. The 2 week long special directive is for good intention, but the manner how it is conveyed for public view in social media handles, it paints a rather false picture of the work culture instead.
 
The cringe part in this whole event is that some/many of the psu units having to public broadcast the outcome part via own social media. Now they are well within their right to do so, but the manner is cringe-worthy no doubt.
Opinion will vary, but such activity is only getting this level of visibility is due to strict directive issued by the higher up. This is what I wanted to point out. Clean their desk furniture as much as they like, have full page dedicated in annual report about it, this is what the usual norm works like. The 2 week long special directive is for good intention, but the manner how it is conveyed for public view in social media handles, it paints a rather false picture of the work culture instead.

What you just described is " When HR culture meets Babu culture". No arguments there. And no gripes about any opinion either.

My point was limited to your misconception about "Pakhwada" and conclusions you arrived at regarding the nature of program. That's all.