Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16

[RISING SUN]

My funda is
1) India had definitely hit the target inside Balakot on feb 26 2019, The pakistani hesitant to open the site for full long month to outsiders is sufficient for my assumption.
2) On feb 27,PAF's strategy they choose is a brilliant one.
3)They shoot down an IAF fighter for sure.
4)Our alleged super fighter MKI was not able to do much. I dont care about its altitude
5) They successfully droped the payload inside Indian military complex, its an act of war.
6) Our media, political leadership portrayed feb 26 & feb 27 is a grand success for India.
7)Modi reiterate his position as a machoman and was busy in attending election rallies.
8) In international community sees feb 27 is victory for Pakistan, for obvious reasons.
9) Lastly i dont buy IAF/GOI claims of F16 getting obliterated by Mig21.
10)IK managed spread an image (a fake image) as more mature politician.

4) no way of knowing what Su30s did or didn't. Everything in public domain is jibberish.
9) Time will tell whose which country's jet went down with visible smoke trail. Till then I will believe IAF's official statement instead of ever changing Pakistani establishment statements.

Rest points I am practically in agreement.

 

[Hydra]

4) no way of knowing what Su30s did or didn't. Everything in public domain is jibberish.
9) Time will tell whose which country's jet went down with visible smoke trail. Till then I will believe IAF's official statement instead of ever changing Pakistani establishment statements.

Rest points I am practically in agreement.

Never ever trust any government & military narration, beleive only the visible evidence or press reports with photographs/videos.

 

[Multicellular man]

Balakot was about lack of long-range BVRs which now we've access to.

BTW can someone post a souce that provides in depth explaination of what happened during the aerial battles that took place between india and pakistan

 

[Rajput Lion]

BTW can someone post a souce that provides in depth explaination of what happened during the aerial battles that took place between india and pakistan

Read former M-2000 pilot @ Sameer Joshi sir' tweets to get full details:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1173030766743187456

EDIT: Here is the link of the whole article: How Pakistan planned to hit India back for Balakot -- the mission, the fighters, the tactics

another question whats te combat radius of tejas mk1a with and without external fuel tanks

Combat radius depends on various factors like external load, drag etc. Safe to say that Tejas has around 500kms combat radius with light air-to-air load and around 700+ kms with two EFTs, which is good enough for Pakistan and its basic interception role. With bombs and air to surface missiles, maybe between 350(without EFTs)-550kms(with drop tanks).

Anyways it's just my guess. I think @vstol Jockey may enlighten us here!

 

[Multicellular man]

another question how far were our su 30s when the amraams were fired?

 

[Ashwin]

another question how far were our su 30s when the amraams were fired?

Please read the link posted above, which was written by Sameer Joshi. It contains all plausible takes.

 

[vstol Jockey]

Read former M-2000 pilot @ Sameer Joshi sir' tweets to get full details:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1173030766743187456

EDIT: Here is the link of the whole article: How Pakistan planned to hit India back for Balakot -- the mission, the fighters, the tactics


Combat radius depends on various factors like external load, drag etc. Safe to say that Tejas has around 500kms combat radius with light air-to-air load and around 700+ kms with two EFTs, which is good enough for Pakistan and its basic interception role. With bombs and air to surface missiles, maybe between 350(without EFTs)-550kms(with drop tanks).

Anyways it's just my guess. I think @vstol Jockey may enlighten us here!

I had done a detailed analysis of my own on one of the threads here. Maybe the @Mods can post it here.

 

[Rajput Lion]

I had done a detailed analysis of my own on one of the threads here. Maybe the @Mods can post it here.

I too remember reading your analysis as a lurker here, but unfortunately can't find it now

 

[jk007]

I had done a detailed analysis of my own on one of the threads here. Maybe the @Mods can post it here.

For layman like me, it looks like PAF got upperhand on that day.......even IAF chief acknowledged that IAF let PAF get technological upper hand and did not fill the gap.

If you think IAF did better than PAF, then indicate your reasons.

 

[Multicellular man]

Please read the link posted above, which was written by Sameer Joshi. It contains all plausible takes.

well i read all his articles which gave me a lot of knowledge about the situaion but i still didnt get the answer of my original question which was how far away were the f16s from our su 30 MKIs when they fired.