Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16

vstol Jockey said:
There is a huge difference in LOC and IB south of Akhnoor. Plus an all out war and cross border raids are two very differnt things.
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sir air chief also mentioned that " we made stupid mistakes" and he added that abhi crossed the LOC in exuberance .

if these are two unrelated things ,what were the mistake committed by IAF,
was it not guessing large strike package over a small area??
 
vstol Jockey said:
And all these years we were doing nothing about mapping the Ocean. Plus one small survey ship near A&N and you think PLAN has mapped the entire ocean.
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They have submarines to watch activity.you can't force Chinese subs to leave indian ocean.they do these type of activities all the time but it's good For pakistan.obviously naval war is a great game.
This news of removing fencing is fake news.
 
Arsalan123 said:
They have submarines to watch activity.you can't force Chinese subs to leave indian ocean.they do these type of activities all the time but it's good For pakistan.obviously naval war is a great game.
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a cost guard nation talking about naval war game ,irony died a thousand death at the very moment.
 
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vikata said:
a cost guard nation talking about naval war game ,irony died a thousand death at the very moment.
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Situation has changed and it will continue to change.pak navy is also doing great.we aren't fools to go out in deep ocean.if you want action,come closer to coast.we have jf-17 for long range strikes.we have everything now to protect our coast.you also underestimate us.
 
vikata said:
sir air chief also mentioned that " we made stupid mistakes" and he added that abhi crossed the LOC in exuberance .

if these are two unrelated things ,what were the mistake committed by IAF,
was it not guessing large strike package over a small area??
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No the " Stupid Mistake" was the shooting
Down of our Own Helicopter

He was very clear that and I quote him
" In a Limited Area ; Limited Period conflict
Technology superiority is Most important

That will be achieved by Rafale
 
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STEPHEN COHEN said:
No the " Stupid Mistake" was the shooting
Down of our Own Helicopter

He was very clear that and I quote him
" In a Limited Area ; Limited Period conflict
Technology superiority is Most important

That will be achieved by Rafale
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I think he was talking about meteor.you are looking for rafale from a very long time now.new missiles good radar,it will be challenging for us but we can handle pressure.
 
Next Skirmish will Definitely Escalate

We should have No doubt about it

IAF is now well prepared to Respond to such Strike Packages sent by PAF having suitably
Amended all Rules Of Engagement

So once their plans are foiled they will Escalate it another sector

That is why PAF was conducting Large scale exercises recently
Arsalan123 said:
I think he was talking about meteor.you are looking for rafale from a very long time now.new missiles good radar,it will be challenging for us but we can handle pressure.
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Please don't quote me again

If I want to talk to Pakistanis , I will Rejoin PDF or talk on Twitter

I have stopped engaging with Pakistani people on internet
 
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Arsalan123 said:
Situation has changed and it will continue to change.pak navy is also doing great.we aren't fools to go out in deep ocean.if you want action,come closer to coast.we have jf-17 for long range strikes.we have everything now to protect our coast.you also underestimate us.
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bhai aage badho ....
i am fed up of your single panacea of all problem from hakim usmaan

" 2 drops of thunder add to everything "

you are simply delusional if pakistani cost guard dared to go against the INDIAN NAVY it will be finding itself at the ocean floor for centuries

and yes i have counted the "2 drops "
 
vikata said:
bhai aage badho ....
i am fed up of your single panacea of all problem from hakim usmaan

" 2 drops of thunder add to everything "

you are simply delusional if pakistani cost guard dared to go against the INDIAN NAVY it will be finding itself at the ocean floor for centuries

and yes i have counted the "2 drops "
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These Loonies from Pakistan drive us crazy

They are very irritating and provocative

I lost one More Twitter account due to them :ROFLMAO:
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
These Loonies from Pakistan drive us crazy

They are very irritating and provocative

I lost one More Twitter account due to them :ROFLMAO:
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its standard al takiya

they will drive you around and around
while
keeping their brain completely shut off and mouth wide open

so whatever you will say/ quote their brain will refuses to process
whereas since you are a rational aadmi you will find them extremely irritating and impervious ( for that matter anyone should find )

out of frustration about their imbecile nature you will react and get your account revoked
 
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Arsalan123 said:
Situation has changed and it will continue to change.pak navy is also doing great.we aren't fools to go out in deep ocean.if you want action,come closer to coast.we have jf-17 for long range strikes.we have everything now to protect our coast.you also underestimate us.
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Ohhhh it was your great navy which could do nothing and hide when Vikky was on move. Just over 100 km move from Vikky and you surrendered Abhinandan in less then 60 hours. So much for doing great....
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
Sir , Mr Prasun Sengupta says that it will
Take 6 years to Overcome our Deficiency
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GHANTA. All deficiencies have been covered vis a vis Pakistan. China is a different ball game though, which will need numbers...

Just remember their entire PAF was in Air and IAF wasn't even their tenth of their strength in Air. Had IAF full strength in Air entire Pakistan would have been burning...
 
noksss said:
Speaking non-technically , Let's assume Modi forced IAF to lie about the bombing ............PA would have reacted by exposing the credibility of both in seconds not wait for one whole month to allow even the journos in their payroll
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Great question, so when Pakistan was"repairing" the terriost camp for a month we couldn't get a single picture of movement, damage whatever and open images showed no change, no panic in that area after strike.

Pakistan didn't allow anyone to visit the area is not even an argument. If I don't allow you to enter my home it will automatically prove that my home is vandalized even when everything goes normal. What kind of argument is this?

Kuch to hona chahiye to support your claim, nothing, nothing at all I can find.

STEPHEN COHEN said:
https://www.drdo.gov.in/multi-sensor-warning-system-msws

In Case you Guys heard that Military Literature Festival Seminar

Air Marshal Nowhar said that Su 30 was ATTACKED from a Distance of Just 30 KM

Still AMRAAM missed

How can that happen if the EW suite or Self Protection Jammers are not good
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30km away, why didn't he fired back? The whole explanation of Su30 not targeting the package was that they were outranged by AMRAAM and were staying out of the envelope to avoid loss. Now this, where did you get this btw?
 
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Arsalan123 said:
Last night was big bro.plan submarines are already in indian ocean.you have to find them first hahaha.
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Really you think China will help you in a Indo-Pak war. Why did they not help you 1965,1971 and 1999.
At the max they will provide you with weapons.
The Chinese know that trade with India is way more important than helping a country like Pakistan.
 
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BlackOpsIndia said:
Great question, so when Pakistan was"repairing" the terriost camp for a month we couldn't get a single picture of movement, damage whatever and open images showed no change, no panic in that area after strike.

Pakistan didn't allow anyone to visit the area is not even an argument. If I don't allow you to enter my home it will automatically prove that my home is vandalized even when everything goes normal. What kind of argument is this?

Kuch to hona chahiye to support your claim, nothing, nothing at all I can find.


30km away, why didn't he fired back? The whole explanation of Su30 not targeting the package was that they were outranged by AMRAAM and were staying out of the envelope to avoid loss. Now this, where did you get this btw?
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@BlackOpsIndia

This is a long video

You have to listen to Air Marshal Nowhar's remarks

I dont remember the Exact Minute of this statement that F 16 fired from 30 Km

He said it in response to Pravin Sawhney who was going on and on that IAF has No EW capabilities

He clearly said that
" They didnt fire Amraam from D MAX , they fired from 30 KM "

And we could evade it because of EW capabilities
 
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