Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile : News, Updates and Discussions


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While a limited number of Nirbhay subsonic missiles have been produced and deployed, the stand-off weapon system has a range that can reach up to 1,000 km, and has both sea skimming and loitering capability. This means that the missile is capable of flying between 100 metres to four km from ground and pick up the target before engaging it. The Nirbhay missile has only a surface-to-surface version.


Nirbhay ?!? Wasn't that project closed and more variant were coming up, ITCM & what not. There was a tweet posted on forum's twitter handle. I can't find it now.

Then this is an emergency deployment ?

@Ashwin @_Anonymous_ @randomradio @Sathya et al.......
 

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Nirbhay ?!? Wasn't that project closed and more variant were coming up, ITCM & what not. There was a tweet posted on forum's twitter handle. I can't find it now.

Then this is an emergency deployment ?

@Ashwin @_Anonymous_ @randomradio @Sathya et al.......
Clueless reporting as usual.

There is an AoN given few months back orders will take few years. Ground launched version may still be called nirbhay.
 
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Shishir Gupta is no novice or a reporter given to hyperbole. He's been in the business for years & has cultivated top sources.His sources are usually impeccable.

The Simple FACT that has emerged is this

We are standing up to China simply because we have a lot of
" Undeclared Military Strength " , which is good enough for a Two front situation

Yesterday DG ISPR was also crying about our deployments

 
Do nirbhay is capable of doing terrain masing flight? U think its a kess sophisticated cruise missile without terrain masking & contour matching flight capability.
 
Clueless reporting as usual.

There is an AoN given few months back orders will take few years. Ground launched version may still be called nirbhay.
I had read on another forum that we have a production lines active for even our prototypes like how war economies do. So weapons in testing stage can be used in case of war. And nirbhay has been undergoing test for the last 10 years so we might have around 100 odd nirbhays of varying capabilities. Maybe..
 
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Nirbhay ?!? Wasn't that project closed and more variant were coming up, ITCM & what not. There was a tweet posted on forum's twitter handle. I can't find it now.

Then this is an emergency deployment ?

@Ashwin @_Anonymous_ @randomradio @Sathya et al.......
He says that Brahmos air to surface and AIR TO AIR... Gotta be wrong... I'd take this article with a massive load of salt. Afaik Nirbhay is not in production.
 
He says that Brahmos air to surface and AIR TO AIR... Gotta be wrong... I'd take this article with a massive load of salt. Afaik Nirbhay is not in production.
If i am not wrong, nirbhay in current form is not impresses the military too.
 
He says that Brahmos air to surface and AIR TO AIR
Read post #443 on this thread. Air to Air Brahmos, ludicrous as it may sound, is actually under consideration and has been reported a number of times.
Do nirbhay is capable of doing terrain masing flight? U think its a kess sophisticated cruise missile without terrain masking & contour matching flight capability.
There was a video of Nirbhay missile doing terrain masking flight. It was posted on twitter by Anantha Krishnan M. from Tarmak007. I think it was posted on this thread too, try searching for it.
 
Read post #443 on this thread. Air to Air Brahmos, ludicrous as it may sound, is actually under consideration and has been reported a number of times.

There was a video of Nirbhay missile doing terrain masking flight. It was posted on twitter by Anantha Krishnan M. from Tarmak007. I think it was posted on this thread too, try searching for it.
Terrain masking & low level flight are or sea skimming flight are two different things. Even our Brahmos is capable yo do both i guess, but it lacks terrain masking flight capability.
I may be wring, experts can shed some light here
 
Terrain masking & low level flight are or sea skimming flight are two different things.
You explained it yourself. Terrain masking is essentially low level flight with automatic obstacle avoidance capability. Brahmos is capable of it, but just to be on the safe side the Brahmos flies over land a little higher than over sea. The high speed comes with its own problems. Even if the seeker sees the obstacle, you don't always have the time to dodge it.

The Nirbhay doesn't have those problems due to its slow flight speed. Thus the Nirbhay's low level flight over land is actually lower that that of Brahmos. Remember Nirbhay's primary role is land attack, Brahmos is primarily an anti-ship weapon. The Nirbhay does have obstacle avoidance capability, flying low over land is what it was built to do.
 
Terrain masking & low level flight are or sea skimming flight are two different things. Even our Brahmos is capable yo do both i guess, but it lacks terrain masking flight capability.
I may be wring, experts can shed some light here
I am not sure but Terrian masking can be achieved by satellite 3d images to know the 3d flight path parameter and the seeker data
 
You explained it yourself. Terrain masking is essentially low level flight with automatic obstacle avoidance capability. Brahmos is capable of it, but just to be on the safe side the Brahmos flies over land a little higher than over sea. The high speed comes with its own problems. Even if the seeker sees the obstacle, you don't always have the time to dodge it.

The Nirbhay doesn't have those problems due to its slow flight speed. Thus the Nirbhay's low level flight over land is actually lower that that of Brahmos. Remember Nirbhay's primary role is land attack, Brahmos is primarily an anti-ship weapon. The Nirbhay does have obstacle avoidance capability, flying low over land is what it was built to do.
That information is a grey area as of now, so far no official documentation regarding terrain masking capability of Nirbhay surfaces. All we knows is that its capable to perform low levels flight over sea and way point navigation.
 
That information is a grey area as of now, so far no official documentation regarding terrain masking capability of Nirbhay surfaces. All we knows is that its capable to perform low levels flight over sea and way point navigation.
That's true.

Another article, this one written by Shiv Aroor :

 
That's true.

Another article, this one written by Shiv Aroor :

Again, not plausible. The entire budget for the program was Rs ~100 cr which ran for more than a decade with multiple failures and all. Till the 2017 year there was no increase in funding or completion of user trials. No news of a new set of engines being procured from russia. Our engine yet to start test flight.

Unless they start producing missiles with no certification or QA with funds from the strategic budget and skipping the secret procurement procedure. I call it bull.
 
Again, not plausible. The entire budget for the program was Rs ~100 cr which ran for more than a decade with multiple failures and all. Till the 2017 year there was no increase in funding or completion of user trials. No news of a new set of engines being procured from russia. Our engine yet to start test flight.

Unless they start producing missiles with no certification or QA with funds from the strategic budget and skipping the secret procurement procedure. I call it bull.
Evidently you aren't familiar with the Hindi phrase - marta, kya na karta - the GoI's & MoD's stock in trade over the years? The entire process of testing & certification can be expected to happen during this crisis while it's being deployed .