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It is. Apart from NGAD and perhaps the F-35 a bit later on.

Tempest/GCAP isn't being developed as a family of systems, never mind the Typhoon. The US isn't serious about the F-15, so that's not gonna get it either.
The Kaan is, Australia has a system being developed. GCAP:

Even if drones are attached to older jets, it's gonna be a long ways away, or not as capable. At least the Saudis will not get it. But with the Rafale, it's a sure-shot.
Rafale is an older jet and F-15 AESA is likely better.
Exactly zero.
Okay, okay.
Fact.
The UK has greater probability of breaking up than India. That says a lot already.
What if India actually started giving independence referendums to specific regions? Fortunately I think the EU referendum has put the government off referendums for a long time.
Sure, sure.
All facts. You have what class as regular small civil wars by our standards... while you levitate in fake moral superiority.
 
The Kaan is, Australia has a system being developed. GCAP:


Rafale is an older jet and F-15 AESA is likely better.

Exactly zero.

Fact.

What if India actually started giving independence referendums to specific regions? Fortunately I think the EU referendum has put the government off referendums for a long time.

All facts. You have what class as regular small civil wars by our standards... while you levitate in fake moral superiority.

I support Brexit.
 
The Kaan is, Australia has a system being developed. GCAP:


Rafale is an older jet and F-15 AESA is likely better.

Exactly zero.

Fact.

What if India actually started giving independence referendums to specific regions? Fortunately I think the EU referendum has put the government off referendums for a long time.

All facts. You have what class as regular small civil wars by our standards... while you levitate in fake moral superiority.

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Yup! You need to get over your high moral ground.

Er... No. They do not exist. It goes against the Quran.

In a truly Muslim society, shirk has to be completely eliminated, so no khaffirs like Hindus can exist. That alone disqualifies Islam for pluralism. Then come the takfiris, ie, if you are Sunni then Shias have to be eliminated. And if you are a specific type of Sunni, like a Deobandi, then the Sufis must be eliminated. And so on. So Islam is totalitarian. Wahhabism and other Salafi schools are very strict about this. They absolutely hate Muslim Indians for example.

There are only 10 secular Islamic majority countries, most of them by name only. The only reason minorities exist in Islamic countries is because of Western foreign aid and influence. There's only 1 secular country in the ME, and that now belongs to Turdogan.

The other 9 are secular because they are extremely poor and get money from the West. It's also for self-protection, 'cause going theocratic can invite regime change from the poweful West. Turkey is secular because they want to get into the EU. 2 other Muslim countries are in Europe. Indonesia is secular because of tourism money, but they have started slowly becoming theocratic.

So radicalism is on the rise even in Indonesia.

Not sure,what do you understand by democracy.
For me, it's about protecting the smallest minorty i.e. an individual's inalienable rights like freedom of speech, expression, rule of law, etc.

That's something else entirely. Only democracies are capable of protecting minorities, that's a given. But it's via the manipulation of the majority that you get different results.

This will be a long post.

The left generates votes by inspiring sympathy from the bleeding hearts of the majority. How? You keep the minority poor and suppressed. So the Muslims in India and blacks in America are the best examples of that. As long as the minority is suppressed, pity votes are generated, and the bleeding hearts also keep right wing extremism in check. It's also when the majority population starts losing their ability to think via ridiculous amounts of media-controlled propaganda.

The right generates votes via unity and nationalism. They build national pride and are extremely pro-freedom, pro-education and pro-business. They inspire national pride by bringing up historical successes and that it can be rebuilt again. Which is why the left manipulates textbooks and focuses on destroying the pride of the majority. And the right wing also benefits minorities. No more bleeding hearts for Muslims in India if they also become rich and educated after all. They just won't have much political power in exchange.

But the issue with both left and right wing is the crazies on either side get more voice and they slowly gain power and eventually decide the best course for unity is to destroy the minorities. Both the left and right believe in unity in singularity. In India, the right has only one type of crazy. But the left has two types, Islamic radicals, who are not very powerful, and communists, who are extremely powerful.

Otoh, the best system for minorities is if the right wing becomes the most powerful, but in a highly rich and educated pluralistic democratic society. The best example is Japan. The LDP is their version of BJP and has held power ever since 1958. They lost power only twice for very short durations, just 5 years in total out of 65 years. That's why their public discipline and traditionlism is extremely well-known.

So you need an opposing force in democracies. Against the left, you need right wing. Against the right, you need left. And against both, you need money and education. And once a population has money and education, the right wing is the best bet for safety and stability, like in Japan.

And that's also why the left focuses on destroying money and education once a country gets it, like what's happening in the US today. That's why the US is not a proper democracy, the people there are quite foolish. They prefer party over country.

The left is attempting to do the same in Japan. Thankfully they are not stupid, right wing all the way.

In India, the global left is attempting this BS.

I hope the govt and companies do not go overboard with it. Equality is well and good, but equity is extremely toxic and riddled in communism.

As for Islamic countries, it's impossible for such a balanced democratic system to exist. The right wing always wins, and the Quran tells them to destroy everyone else. The only alternative is to stop taking the Quran seriously while getting rid of Sharia.

It's simple really. In India, if the BJP is defeated, then communism will take over, and once that happens, Islam will be eliminated en masse. And if Congress is defeated before the population becomes rich and educated, then some-Hitler type figure will show up and eliminate Islam. So either way Muslims will get screwed, which is why Indian mullahs in mosques are pushing Muslim children towards majority schools instead of madrassas while trying their best to suppress radicalism. They have understood how this game works, very late, but better late than never. The madrassas are funded by the left to keep Muslims poor and uneducated.

Hence:

So triple talaq, UCC, anti-conversion, all of these laws are being brought in to benefit Muslims.

Makes sense now?

And why Muslims can potentially get eliminated in India on those two extremes? Well, who the hell's gonna be strong enough to stop it? But there's a caveat. Only the left will destroy Muslims, not the right. And this is what bothers global communists the most.

So, as per communism, pluralism and nationalism cannot go hand-in-hand, you have to choose one. So the Chinese are nationalists but favor only ethnic Han Chinese and no religion. As the Japanese lady said, you need an oppressor and an oppressed for communism to work before it's fully established, like in China. But India is the only global exception to this rule because of Hinduism. What they have discovered is the more powerful and influential the majority becomes, the minorities benefit even more than the majority. So it's upended all their beliefs and theories in just a few short years.

That's why there have been multiple massive attacks on Hinduism happening the last few years via the media internationally. That's also why the Khalistan movement has been re-energized. When Modi came to power, the global left used their usual tools of attack and it all backfired because they assumed Hinduism is just another basic right wing system. So they decided to use shaming tactics against both development and religion, and they overdid it. The best example of that is the current situation with Maldives. Then recall Stalin (the best leftist name there is) relating Hinduism with a disease, that backfired spectacularly.

The global left is currently using poverty and hunger as a shaming tactic, 'cause they failed on the overall development front, like infrastructure and services, which have become better than developed countries in some cases. They are unable to attack Hindiusm either, which is why you don't see many Western articles on the new Ram Mandir outside of some pity-generation articles, which are aimed at their own domestic audience rather than shaming Hindus.

Hinduism has become communism's greatest enemy. And that's the reason why Muslims will benefit from such a pluralistic system. India is the only country in the world where Muslims can safely climb to the peak of what they can achieve while almost completely suppressing the eventual downward spiral all Quranic societies are condemned to.

It's blip on a large time scale.

It's within a generation. They target children in mosques. Then it's permanent until an outsider comes in and changes things violently.

Similarly the trans agenda in the US is also targeting children.

Examples??

Pretty much every Muslim country on the planet.

Here's an explanation of the "Muslims are peaceful" argument.

Basically, non-Muslim societies, democracies, have various means to keep extremism in check. Muslim societies do not.

Indonesia, Tunisia, Turkey, Myanmar etc. Are doing fine.

Tunisia has relations with the EU. They have an association agreement, so the EU acts as the opposing force. The same as Turkey, Bosnia and Albania.

Myanmar, almost 90% Buddhist? Are you referring to Malaysia? Malaysia is doing well because non-Muslims, the local Chinese, control over 80% of their economy. So Muslims elect the leader, but the Chinese (including China) control the leader. It's like the new Maldives.

Indonesia has the West, India and China acting as an opposing force due to tourism, investments and the overall security situation in general. Both countries (Malaysia included) understand they could become battlegrounds in a major war, so politics trumps religion. They are fearful of their internal security situation too.

There's not a single Muslim country today that stands on its own. The entire Muslim world is completely dependent on Christians, khaffirs and atheists. It's all 'cause Islam was made for war, not nation-building. There's a massive difference in philosophy. None of the Five Pillars of Islam required to go to heaven include nation-building. It's all about surrendering your dopamine system to someone else who will control your life and steal your wealth.

In Islam, there are two pillars for breaking the dopamine system, Shahada and Silat. And there are two pillars concerning the transfer of wealth to the clergy, Zakat and Hajj, one takes away wealth of the rich in the name of alms, the other takes away wealth from everyone and drops it in a center of power that benefits only a specific kind of clergy. And Sawm, while good, only benefits the self.

Otoh, in Hinduism, nation-building and being responsible for someone else (having dependents for example, practising a profession, running a business etc), seeking truth (knowledge) and chasing excellence in all acts are the only ways of going to heaven, while doing all this on a foundation of good deeds (karma). Prayers, hymns, fasting, pilgrimages and alms are only meant to improve your current life while alive because they only serves the physical senses, not the soul, at best increases karma. These are not a path to heaven. So completely opposite philosophies at play here. The Hindu concept of heaven is also different, even though both Hinduism and Islam believe in one omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient God.

So, without a change in philosophy, Quranic societies will always go into a downward spiral. There's quite literally not a single exception possible without a non-Muslim opposing force acting against it in a constructive manner, and, to the chagrin of communists, only Hinduism has been proven to do that. All other religions and systems hate and suppress Islam in its entirety, including Islam itself.
 
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Gotta make a correction in the above post. There are 22 secular Muslim majority countries, but pretty much all of them are poor. Mostly in Central Asia or Africa.
 
Gotta make a correction in the above post. There are 22 secular Muslim majority countries, but pretty much all of them are poor. Mostly in Central Asia or Africa.
There's 1 Hindu majority country and it's poor too... and not all that secular at times either.
 
First ECRS Mk2 fitted to a fighter (BS116) for aerial testing. Has already undergone ground rig testing.
At 1000 am on Wednesday, January 17, 2024, BAE Systems will finally press the trigger on a Press Release that was formulated on November 1, when the prototype ECRS.Mk 2 radar was fitted to test aircraft BS116. The MoD refused to allow the release, because two LRIs needed replacing.
Now this would be funny, were it not for the fact that an important potential customer's planned order for the type is believed to be dependent on ECRS.Mk 2 and the Large Area Display - and for those bits of kit to form part of an RAF build/mod standard.

Any evidence of progress could have been invaluable, as that customer waited for a BAFO from the rival Dassault Rafale on November 10. The availability of Radar 2 is probably a more significant potential deal-breaker for the Saudis (as they are the potential customer concerned) than was Germany's blocking of the deal, which was so recently lifted, though I heard yesterday that they may also be considering ECRS.Mk 0.

The prototype radar reportedly left the Leonardo facility at Crewe Toll, Edinburgh, where it had been tested in the roof laboratory, on 16 March, though it reportedly did not arrive at BAE Systems Warton site on March 31. Assuming that the radar was not taken on a hand-pulled cart, we assume that one of these dates is wrong!

Since arriving at Warton, the radar has been undergoing further testing in Warton’s integrated radar test facility, before being fitted to BS116 on November 1.

This is very much a prototype ECRS.Mk 2, combining the antenna of the original Bright Adder technology demonstrator with the back end of the ECRS.Mk 0. Production ECRS.Mk 2 modules are under development, and their production designs have all passed their critical design review phases.

(Bright Adder was a derivative of the ARTS radar fitted to the Tornado GR1A based TREV, re-engineered to fit a Typhoon ‘form factor’ but not originally intended to be flown).

Some 12 ECRS.Mk 2 radars will be built for development, followed by series production of 40 radars for the RAF’s 40 Tranche 3 Typhoons. The 40 production radars will include some of the development batch radars upgraded to the full production standard. A2&i expects a first flight this July.

This series of information that is not in the official press release, and was compiled without BAE Systems input, so I'm not busting any embargo.
 

The Eurofighter’s AESA radars


After a significant testing phase at both Leonardo and BAE facilities in the UK, Leonardo delivered the first radar system to BAE for integration on a Typhoon in November 2023. With the first flight delayed from 2023 to 2024, the planned IOC for the RAF Typhoons equipped with ECRS Mk2 is now stated to be 2030.

By the end of 2023, France is expected to order 42 Rafales; negotiations are still ongoing with Dassault Aviation for this fifth batch. Deliveries initially were planned to start in 2029 but discussions are underway to deliver them starting in 2027.

Which of the two plans will best suit Saudi Arabia?
 
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LOL. Now you will tell me that Rafale can deal with it.:ROFLMAO:

The RBE2 XG radar will be capable of collaborative jamming, which means developing angular jamming techniques to enter into the intimate processing of opposing radars, thanks to several devices communicating with each other via a specific data link. In this way, several devices can generate totally coherent waveforms capable of disrupting opposing radars. The aim is to have a reaction time of less than a millisecond, because seeker radars are now so effective that you have to neutralise them before they lock on to you ...
 
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The RBE2 XG radar will be capable of collaborative jamming, which means developing angular jamming techniques to enter into the intimate processing of opposing radars, thanks to several devices communicating with each other via a specific data link. In this way, several devices can generate totally coherent waveforms capable of disrupting opposing radars. The aim is to have a reaction time of less than a millisecond, because seeker radars are now so effective that you have to neutralise them before they lock on to you ...
Yeah, Russia thought it's EW was sh1t hot too.

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What you're suggesting won't work in practice, you can't jam every radar and jamming is way easier with a stealth aircraft than without. If I have several stealth aircraft, some with radars on, some with radars off, the ones with radars off will detect your jamming and geolocate you and fire missile in HOJ mode. Eeven if your jamming is perfect (which is unlikely) you can't aim it purely at the source because of beamwidth.
 
Yeah, Russia thought it's EW was sh1t hot too.

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What you're suggesting won't work in practice, you can't jam every radar and jamming is way easier with a stealth aircraft than without. If I have several stealth aircraft, some with radars on, some with radars off, the ones with radars off will detect your jamming and geolocate you and fire missile in HOJ mode. Eeven if your jamming is perfect (which is unlikely) you can't aim it purely at the source because of beamwidth.
Then you have the problem that you don't have EW emitters on every part of your aircraft and the radar beam hitting them will be at a different phase, which varies depending on heating and cooling of the airframe in flight. The hostile radar can also be verying pulse-width, amplitude, frequency and coding rapidly, meaning any jamming system would always be playing catch-up.
 
There's 1 Hindu majority country and it's poor too... and not all that secular at times either.

Three actually, but we have the left to thank for being poor.

India had to deal with the "Hindu rate of growth" because Hindus were not in power for most of its independent history. That changed in 2014. It started with anti-incumbency and that changed into Hindu revivalism.

You may have noticed how Hinduism is shamed and reviled in Western media. People in the West only know about poverty and negative aspects of Hinduism, all for the sole purpose of shaming Hindus, as the oppressor. The West is going through this phase right now, where white people are being called the oppressor and are being shamed for it. We lived through 70 years of this sh!t and had enough of it.

India is not secular, it's pro-Muslim. A uniform civil code and bringing Muslims back into the mainstream via education are the goals to make India secular.
 
LOL. Now you will tell me that Rafale can deal with it.:ROFLMAO:


It's yet unclear. Apart from MRFA, there's some chatter from the Russian side about reviving the Su-57 deal. The Russians also seem to have sent out feelers to produce Su-57s in India for global exports.

But for now, until something changes, the IAF's belief is LCA, Rafale and AMCA will meet our requirements. So we have no need to change our plans at this time to deal with the J-31 and J-20.
 
But for now, until something changes, the IAF's belief is LCA, Rafale and AMCA will meet our requirements. So we have no need to change our plans at this time to deal with the J-31 and J-20.
I want IAF to pit against F35 in a friendly military exercise. Thats the only way to burst this delusion.
 
I want IAF to pit against F35 in a friendly military exercise. Thats the only way to burst this delusion.

The IAF has exercised with the F-22, but it's of no use, they don't use all their main capabilities.

The only non-F-35 customer that may have exercised against the F-22s possibly full capabilities is very likely France, and even that is suspect. We have no information.

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You can see the Luneburg lens on the F-22, it increases the RCS.

But the US has been showing off a lot of their capabilities, even if superficially. Both B-1B and F-35A/I are prime examples.

Our best bet for stealth remains Russia. Now that the Su-57 is approaching completion, we only need to wait for the war to finish before seeing first-hand what the Russians have accomplished.
 
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The IAF has exercised with the F-22, but it's of no use, they don't use all their main capabilities.

The only non-F-35 customer that may have exercised against the F-22s possibly full capabilities is very likely France, and even that is suspect. We have no information.

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You can see the Luneburg lens on the F-22, it increases the RCS.

But the US has been showing off a lot of their capabilities, even if superficially. Both B-1B and F-35A/I are prime examples.

Our best bet for stealth remains Russia. Now that the Su-57 is approaching completion, we only need to wait for the war to finish before seeing first-hand what the Russians have accomplished.
SU57 is not a stealth aircraft, period.
 
It's yet unclear. Apart from MRFA, there's some chatter from the Russian side about reviving the Su-57 deal. The Russians also seem to have sent out feelers to produce Su-57s in India for global exports.

But for now, until something changes, the IAF's belief is LCA, Rafale and AMCA will meet our requirements. So we have no need to change our plans at this time to deal with the J-31 and J-20.
The Su-57 is what happens when a child draws a stealth fighter. AMCA is pie beyond the sky. Hasn't even flown, isn't about to. Tejas is well, Tejas.:ROFLMAO:
 
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