Opinion Imposing Costs: India's War on Terror

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“On 14 February 2019, a suicide terror attack was conducted by a Pak based terrorist organization Jaish-e-Mohammad, leading to the martyrdom of 40 brave jawans of the CRPF. JeM has been active in Pakistan for the last two decades, and is led by MASOOD AZHAR with its headquarters in Bahawalpur. This organization, which is proscribed by the UN, has been responsible of a series of terrorist attacks including on the Indian Parliament in December 2001 and the Pathankot airbase in January 2016. Information regarding the location of training camps in Pakistan and PoJK has been provided to Pakistan from time to time. Pakistan, however, denies their existence. The existence of such massive training facilities capable of training hundreds of jidhadis could not have functioned without the knowledge of Pakistan authorities.

India has been repeatedly urging Pakistan to take action against the JeM to prevent jihadis from being trained and armed inside Pakistan. Pakistan has taken no concrete actions to dismantle the infrastructure of terrorism on its soil. Credible intelligence was received that JeM was attempting another suicide terror attack in various parts of the country, and the fidayeen jihadis were being trained for this purpose. In the face of imminent danger, a preemptive strike became absolutely necessary.

In an intelligence led operation in the early hours of today, India struck the biggest training camp of JeM in Balakot. In this operation, a very large number of JeM terrorists, trainers, senior commanders and groups of jihadis who were being trained for fidayeen action were eliminated.

This facility at Balakot was headed by MAULANA YOUSUF AZHAR (alias USTAD GHOURI), the brother-in-law of MASOOD AZHAR, Chief of JeM. The Government of India is firmly and resolutely committed to taking all necessary measures to fight the menace of terrorism. Hence this non-military preemptive action was specifically targeted at the JeM camp.

The selection of the target was also conditioned by our desire to avoid civilian casualties. The facility is located in thick forest on a hilltop far away from any civilian presence. As the strike has taken place only a short while ago, we are awaiting further details. The Government of Pakistan had made a solemn commitment in January 2004 not to allow its soil or territory under its control to be used for terrorism against India.

We expect that Pakistan lives up to its public commitment and takes follow up actions to dismantle all JeM and other camps and hold the terrorists accountable for the actions.”


source: Text of foreign secretary’s statement on air strike


Aforementioned, one can find the full text of the statement read out by Mr. Vijay Gokhale, Foreign Secretary of India, on 26 February 2019, on India's use of air power in retaliation against the suicide bombing carried out against Indian Central Reserve Police Forces (CRPF) at Pulwama in the Indian State of Jammu and Kashmir on 14 February 2019. The use of air power by India to target terrorist training camps/infrastructure deep inside Pakistan Occupied Jammu & Kashmir (PoJ&K) and Pakistan, was a marked departure from the approach taken by the previous regime to similar strikes on the Indian State at Mumbai, Ahmedabad and elsewhere. In the process, it also laid bare the bluff of the Pakistani State of threatening a war that could turn nuclear, if India was to use air power to strike into Pakistan. (Mr. Ahmad Mukhtar Chaudhry, Pakistan Defence Minister, Monday, 22 December 2008).

This bold new approach quickly brought to fore the use of military means as tools to achieve politico-diplomatic objectives by Prime Minister Modi, which had thus far, remained elusive while following the traditional approach followed by successive Indian governments as evident with lack of any progress on Mumbai attacks, Pathankot and Gurdaspur provocations. The Surgical Strike by Indian Special Forces authorized by the Government of India in September 2016, while not exactly the first of it's kind, became the first instance wherein the political dispensation at power took an overt ownership of the act, in order to impose certain 'Politico-Diplomatic Costs' on Pakistan, in addition to the limited military costs on the outfit and their supporters.

This incident had it's fair share of critics and sceptics, primarily because the inherent nature of military operations undertaken by Indian Military Forces anywhere in India and beyond, forbids release of details. That it quickly convoluted into a Political slug fest, was but a given, as the response of the Indian public, tired by decades of tolerating an assault on it's security, overwhelmingly fell in behind the Prime Minister and the opposition was left floundering. Sensing a dissonance in the Indian Political Scene, Pakistan and it's agents, quickly got o work to create a narrative intended to create an impression of growing intolerance (fueled by certain sections seeking political advantage in garb of Hyper nationalism), antipathy of one section towards another (in order to target the Sikhs, North Eastern states and Tamils) and a general culture of questioning the Government of the day over every statement, thereby lending credence to a perception that the Government is out to mislead/misdirect the common Indian.

As India found itself at dissonance with itself, the primary aim of carrying out a military strike - imposing costs on Pakistan, was quickly lost as an opportunity to exploit the same was lost in the political slugfest being played out in the Parliament, Assemblies and Social Media/media. The zenith of the farce was achieved with the armed forces themselves coming under a cloud as Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) leader Mr. Kejriwal and Congress Party (INC) leaders Rahul Gandhi, Digvijaya Singh and Trinamool Congress (TC) leader Mamata Bannerjee, sought to question the veracity of the strikes itself. Soon, the Chief of Army Staff, General Bipin Rawat, PVSM, UYSM, AVSM, YSM, SM, VSM, ADC was found to have been accused by AAP Leader Mr. HS Phoolka of being complicit in orchestrating a bomb blast in Amritsar. ("Inadvertent Comment, Regret It": AAP Leader HS Phoolka On Army Chief, November 19, 2018 12:00 IST).

Fast forward to 14 February 2019. Sensing an opportunity as the country heads into General Elections in April-May 2019, Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) and it's handlers, Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence, carried out what is now clearly the first suicide attack in Kashmir Valley since early 2000s, targeting an Administrative convoy of CRPF at Pulwama. In the aftermath of the strike, as the Government of India considered various options, the use of Air Power remained the most obvious taking into consideration the inclement weather conditions in the State of Jammu & Kashmir, Pakistan Army's likelihood of being postured to target another Indian Special Forces attempt, and the inherent need to graduate the scale of 'costs' upwards for Pakistan.

The use of Air Power was designed to achieve precisely this. As Government of India claimed the strike, Pakistan was found tying itself up in knots as it hurried to deny multiple strikes within the territories controlled by it, including as deep as at Balakote in the Pakistani State of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa (KPK), and then being under tremendous pressure to react to Indian 'aggression'. Pakistan quickly mobilized it's forces, in the process shifting quite a chunk of troops involved in anti-terror operations in Baluchistan and territories of erstwhile Federally Administered Tribal Area (FATA) and parts of KPK. The use of Pakistan Air Force (PAF) to retaliate against what essentially was an anti-terror operation claimed by the Government of India, by striking Indian military targets and downing an IAF Mi-21 Bison, is essentially an Act of War and overt support of a State to terrorists and their infrastructure. By all diplomatic, political and military logic, the act of the Government of Pakistan, it's defence forces and it's agencies, is an act of war carried out with an intent to protect, nurture and defend the terrorists on their soil.

With these actions, the subsequent actions of the Government of India, broke the basic principle that is essential in use of military power to achieve definitive political objectives - imposition of costs that break the will of the enemy to fight.

There is no ambiguity that the State of Pakistan, it's citizens and it's defence/intelligence forces, remain complicit in not only the sustenance and nurturing of terrorist organizations but also play an active role as support elements in undertaking terror activities that take lives of Indian citizens, it's security forces and Indian interests. That the cadre is derived from the very same society, has been derived for over three decades now, does not absolve the common Pakistani citizen of his/her complicity in acts of terror within the State of India.

By failing to impose costs on this vital, thriving and belligerent support base, the Government of India will fail yet again to achieve it's overall objective and India will continue to bleed. Any other claims of 'ghar mein ghuske maarenge' or 'naya bharat hai, ghusega bhi aur maarega bhi' are mere slogans of no standing and import, if costs and pain that every Indian feels for every act of terror, is not exponentially imposed on this support base.

How the Government choses to impose this cost on the support base of terror that remains the Pakistani society as a whole, remains to be seen.

Till then, let us not celebrate any victory or appearance of any victory. We have merely taken the first step.
 
“On 14 February 2019, a suicide terror attack was conducted by a Pak based terrorist organization Jaish-e-Mohammad, leading to the martyrdom of 40 brave jawans of the CRPF. JeM has been active in Pakistan for the last two decades, and is led by MASOOD AZHAR with its headquarters in Bahawalpur. This organization, which is proscribed by the UN, has been responsible of a series of terrorist attacks including on the Indian Parliament in December 2001 and the Pathankot airbase in January 2016. Information regarding the location of training camps in Pakistan and PoJK has been provided to Pakistan from time to time. Pakistan, however, denies their existence. The existence of such massive training facilities capable of training hundreds of jidhadis could not have functioned without the knowledge of Pakistan authorities.

India has been repeatedly urging Pakistan to take action against the JeM to prevent jihadis from being trained and armed inside Pakistan. Pakistan has taken no concrete actions to dismantle the infrastructure of terrorism on its soil. Credible intelligence was received that JeM was attempting another suicide terror attack in various parts of the country, and the fidayeen jihadis were being trained for this purpose. In the face of imminent danger, a preemptive strike became absolutely necessary.

In an intelligence led operation in the early hours of today, India struck the biggest training camp of JeM in Balakot. In this operation, a very large number of JeM terrorists, trainers, senior commanders and groups of jihadis who were being trained for fidayeen action were eliminated.

This facility at Balakot was headed by MAULANA YOUSUF AZHAR (alias USTAD GHOURI), the brother-in-law of MASOOD AZHAR, Chief of JeM. The Government of India is firmly and resolutely committed to taking all necessary measures to fight the menace of terrorism. Hence this non-military preemptive action was specifically targeted at the JeM camp.

The selection of the target was also conditioned by our desire to avoid civilian casualties. The facility is located in thick forest on a hilltop far away from any civilian presence. As the strike has taken place only a short while ago, we are awaiting further details. The Government of Pakistan had made a solemn commitment in January 2004 not to allow its soil or territory under its control to be used for terrorism against India.

We expect that Pakistan lives up to its public commitment and takes follow up actions to dismantle all JeM and other camps and hold the terrorists accountable for the actions.”


source: Text of foreign secretary’s statement on air strike


Aforementioned, one can find the full text of the statement read out by Mr. Vijay Gokhale, Foreign Secretary of India, on 26 February 2019, on India's use of air power in retaliation against the suicide bombing carried out against Indian Central Reserve Police Forces (CRPF) at Pulwama in the Indian State of Jammu and Kashmir on 14 February 2019. The use of air power by India to target terrorist training camps/infrastructure deep inside Pakistan Occupied Jammu & Kashmir (PoJ&K) and Pakistan, was a marked departure from the approach taken by the previous regime to similar strikes on the Indian State at Mumbai, Ahmedabad and elsewhere. In the process, it also laid bare the bluff of the Pakistani State of threatening a war that could turn nuclear, if India was to use air power to strike into Pakistan. (Mr. Ahmad Mukhtar Chaudhry, Pakistan Defence Minister, Monday, 22 December 2008).

This bold new approach quickly brought to fore the use of military means as tools to achieve politico-diplomatic objectives by Prime Minister Modi, which had thus far, remained elusive while following the traditional approach followed by successive Indian governments as evident with lack of any progress on Mumbai attacks, Pathankot and Gurdaspur provocations. The Surgical Strike by Indian Special Forces authorized by the Government of India in September 2016, while not exactly the first of it's kind, became the first instance wherein the political dispensation at power took an overt ownership of the act, in order to impose certain 'Politico-Diplomatic Costs' on Pakistan, in addition to the limited military costs on the outfit and their supporters.

This incident had it's fair share of critics and sceptics, primarily because the inherent nature of military operations undertaken by Indian Military Forces anywhere in India and beyond, forbids release of details. That it quickly convoluted into a Political slug fest, was but a given, as the response of the Indian public, tired by decades of tolerating an assault on it's security, overwhelmingly fell in behind the Prime Minister and the opposition was left floundering. Sensing a dissonance in the Indian Political Scene, Pakistan and it's agents, quickly got o work to create a narrative intended to create an impression of growing intolerance (fueled by certain sections seeking political advantage in garb of Hyper nationalism), antipathy of one section towards another (in order to target the Sikhs, North Eastern states and Tamils) and a general culture of questioning the Government of the day over every statement, thereby lending credence to a perception that the Government is out to mislead/misdirect the common Indian.

As India found itself at dissonance with itself, the primary aim of carrying out a military strike - imposing costs on Pakistan, was quickly lost as an opportunity to exploit the same was lost in the political slugfest being played out in the Parliament, Assemblies and Social Media/media. The zenith of the farce was achieved with the armed forces themselves coming under a cloud as Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) leader Mr. Kejriwal and Congress Party (INC) leaders Rahul Gandhi, Digvijaya Singh and Trinamool Congress (TC) leader Mamata Bannerjee, sought to question the veracity of the strikes itself. Soon, the Chief of Army Staff, General Bipin Rawat, PVSM, UYSM, AVSM, YSM, SM, VSM, ADC was found to have been accused by AAP Leader Mr. HS Phoolka of being complicit in orchestrating a bomb blast in Amritsar. ("Inadvertent Comment, Regret It": AAP Leader HS Phoolka On Army Chief, November 19, 2018 12:00 IST).

Fast forward to 14 February 2019. Sensing an opportunity as the country heads into General Elections in April-May 2019, Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) and it's handlers, Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence, carried out what is now clearly the first suicide attack in Kashmir Valley since early 2000s, targeting an Administrative convoy of CRPF at Pulwama. In the aftermath of the strike, as the Government of India considered various options, the use of Air Power remained the most obvious taking into consideration the inclement weather conditions in the State of Jammu & Kashmir, Pakistan Army's likelihood of being postured to target another Indian Special Forces attempt, and the inherent need to graduate the scale of 'costs' upwards for Pakistan.

The use of Air Power was designed to achieve precisely this. As Government of India claimed the strike, Pakistan was found tying itself up in knots as it hurried to deny multiple strikes within the territories controlled by it, including as deep as at Balakote in the Pakistani State of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa (KPK), and then being under tremendous pressure to react to Indian 'aggression'. Pakistan quickly mobilized it's forces, in the process shifting quite a chunk of troops involved in anti-terror operations in Baluchistan and territories of erstwhile Federally Administered Tribal Area (FATA) and parts of KPK. The use of Pakistan Air Force (PAF) to retaliate against what essentially was an anti-terror operation claimed by the Government of India, by striking Indian military targets and downing an IAF Mi-21 Bison, is essentially an Act of War and overt support of a State to terrorists and their infrastructure. By all diplomatic, political and military logic, the act of the Government of Pakistan, it's defence forces and it's agencies, is an act of war carried out with an intent to protect, nurture and defend the terrorists on their soil.

With these actions, the subsequent actions of the Government of India, broke the basic principle that is essential in use of military power to achieve definitive political objectives - imposition of costs that break the will of the enemy to fight.

There is no ambiguity that the State of Pakistan, it's citizens and it's defence/intelligence forces, remain complicit in not only the sustenance and nurturing of terrorist organizations but also play an active role as support elements in undertaking terror activities that take lives of Indian citizens, it's security forces and Indian interests. That the cadre is derived from the very same society, has been derived for over three decades now, does not absolve the common Pakistani citizen of his/her complicity in acts of terror within the State of India.

By failing to impose costs on this vital, thriving and belligerent support base, the Government of India will fail yet again to achieve it's overall objective and India will continue to bleed. Any other claims of 'ghar mein ghuske maarenge' or 'naya bharat hai, ghusega bhi aur maarega bhi' are mere slogans of no standing and import, if costs and pain that every Indian feels for every act of terror, is not exponentially imposed on this support base.

How the Government choses to impose this cost on the support base of terror that remains the Pakistani society as a whole, remains to be seen.

Till then, let us not celebrate any victory or appearance of any victory. We have merely taken the first step.
Not just imposing a economic cost we also need to seek war reparations explicitly. During kargil war so many lives were lost and development funds diverted for fighting the war but Pakistan which started the war just walked away. We need to capture territory / prisoners and demand financial penalty for releasing them not making them explicitly pay is just plain encouragement to repeat it again.
 
“On 14 February 2019, a suicide terror attack was conducted by a Pak based terrorist organization Jaish-e-Mohammad, leading to the martyrdom of 40 brave jawans of the CRPF. JeM has been active in Pakistan for the last two decades, and is led by MASOOD AZHAR with its headquarters in Bahawalpur. This organization, which is proscribed by the UN, has been responsible of a series of terrorist attacks including on the Indian Parliament in December 2001 and the Pathankot airbase in January 2016. Information regarding the location of training camps in Pakistan and PoJK has been provided to Pakistan from time to time. Pakistan, however, denies their existence. The existence of such massive training facilities capable of training hundreds of jidhadis could not have functioned without the knowledge of Pakistan authorities.

India has been repeatedly urging Pakistan to take action against the JeM to prevent jihadis from being trained and armed inside Pakistan. Pakistan has taken no concrete actions to dismantle the infrastructure of terrorism on its soil. Credible intelligence was received that JeM was attempting another suicide terror attack in various parts of the country, and the fidayeen jihadis were being trained for this purpose. In the face of imminent danger, a preemptive strike became absolutely necessary.

In an intelligence led operation in the early hours of today, India struck the biggest training camp of JeM in Balakot. In this operation, a very large number of JeM terrorists, trainers, senior commanders and groups of jihadis who were being trained for fidayeen action were eliminated.

This facility at Balakot was headed by MAULANA YOUSUF AZHAR (alias USTAD GHOURI), the brother-in-law of MASOOD AZHAR, Chief of JeM. The Government of India is firmly and resolutely committed to taking all necessary measures to fight the menace of terrorism. Hence this non-military preemptive action was specifically targeted at the JeM camp.

The selection of the target was also conditioned by our desire to avoid civilian casualties. The facility is located in thick forest on a hilltop far away from any civilian presence. As the strike has taken place only a short while ago, we are awaiting further details. The Government of Pakistan had made a solemn commitment in January 2004 not to allow its soil or territory under its control to be used for terrorism against India.

We expect that Pakistan lives up to its public commitment and takes follow up actions to dismantle all JeM and other camps and hold the terrorists accountable for the actions.”


source: Text of foreign secretary’s statement on air strike


Aforementioned, one can find the full text of the statement read out by Mr. Vijay Gokhale, Foreign Secretary of India, on 26 February 2019, on India's use of air power in retaliation against the suicide bombing carried out against Indian Central Reserve Police Forces (CRPF) at Pulwama in the Indian State of Jammu and Kashmir on 14 February 2019. The use of air power by India to target terrorist training camps/infrastructure deep inside Pakistan Occupied Jammu & Kashmir (PoJ&K) and Pakistan, was a marked departure from the approach taken by the previous regime to similar strikes on the Indian State at Mumbai, Ahmedabad and elsewhere. In the process, it also laid bare the bluff of the Pakistani State of threatening a war that could turn nuclear, if India was to use air power to strike into Pakistan. (Mr. Ahmad Mukhtar Chaudhry, Pakistan Defence Minister, Monday, 22 December 2008).

This bold new approach quickly brought to fore the use of military means as tools to achieve politico-diplomatic objectives by Prime Minister Modi, which had thus far, remained elusive while following the traditional approach followed by successive Indian governments as evident with lack of any progress on Mumbai attacks, Pathankot and Gurdaspur provocations. The Surgical Strike by Indian Special Forces authorized by the Government of India in September 2016, while not exactly the first of it's kind, became the first instance wherein the political dispensation at power took an overt ownership of the act, in order to impose certain 'Politico-Diplomatic Costs' on Pakistan, in addition to the limited military costs on the outfit and their supporters.

This incident had it's fair share of critics and sceptics, primarily because the inherent nature of military operations undertaken by Indian Military Forces anywhere in India and beyond, forbids release of details. That it quickly convoluted into a Political slug fest, was but a given, as the response of the Indian public, tired by decades of tolerating an assault on it's security, overwhelmingly fell in behind the Prime Minister and the opposition was left floundering. Sensing a dissonance in the Indian Political Scene, Pakistan and it's agents, quickly got o work to create a narrative intended to create an impression of growing intolerance (fueled by certain sections seeking political advantage in garb of Hyper nationalism), antipathy of one section towards another (in order to target the Sikhs, North Eastern states and Tamils) and a general culture of questioning the Government of the day over every statement, thereby lending credence to a perception that the Government is out to mislead/misdirect the common Indian.

As India found itself at dissonance with itself, the primary aim of carrying out a military strike - imposing costs on Pakistan, was quickly lost as an opportunity to exploit the same was lost in the political slugfest being played out in the Parliament, Assemblies and Social Media/media. The zenith of the farce was achieved with the armed forces themselves coming under a cloud as Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) leader Mr. Kejriwal and Congress Party (INC) leaders Rahul Gandhi, Digvijaya Singh and Trinamool Congress (TC) leader Mamata Bannerjee, sought to question the veracity of the strikes itself. Soon, the Chief of Army Staff, General Bipin Rawat, PVSM, UYSM, AVSM, YSM, SM, VSM, ADC was found to have been accused by AAP Leader Mr. HS Phoolka of being complicit in orchestrating a bomb blast in Amritsar. ("Inadvertent Comment, Regret It": AAP Leader HS Phoolka On Army Chief, November 19, 2018 12:00 IST).

Fast forward to 14 February 2019. Sensing an opportunity as the country heads into General Elections in April-May 2019, Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) and it's handlers, Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence, carried out what is now clearly the first suicide attack in Kashmir Valley since early 2000s, targeting an Administrative convoy of CRPF at Pulwama. In the aftermath of the strike, as the Government of India considered various options, the use of Air Power remained the most obvious taking into consideration the inclement weather conditions in the State of Jammu & Kashmir, Pakistan Army's likelihood of being postured to target another Indian Special Forces attempt, and the inherent need to graduate the scale of 'costs' upwards for Pakistan.

The use of Air Power was designed to achieve precisely this. As Government of India claimed the strike, Pakistan was found tying itself up in knots as it hurried to deny multiple strikes within the territories controlled by it, including as deep as at Balakote in the Pakistani State of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa (KPK), and then being under tremendous pressure to react to Indian 'aggression'. Pakistan quickly mobilized it's forces, in the process shifting quite a chunk of troops involved in anti-terror operations in Baluchistan and territories of erstwhile Federally Administered Tribal Area (FATA) and parts of KPK. The use of Pakistan Air Force (PAF) to retaliate against what essentially was an anti-terror operation claimed by the Government of India, by striking Indian military targets and downing an IAF Mi-21 Bison, is essentially an Act of War and overt support of a State to terrorists and their infrastructure. By all diplomatic, political and military logic, the act of the Government of Pakistan, it's defence forces and it's agencies, is an act of war carried out with an intent to protect, nurture and defend the terrorists on their soil.

With these actions, the subsequent actions of the Government of India, broke the basic principle that is essential in use of military power to achieve definitive political objectives - imposition of costs that break the will of the enemy to fight.

There is no ambiguity that the State of Pakistan, it's citizens and it's defence/intelligence forces, remain complicit in not only the sustenance and nurturing of terrorist organizations but also play an active role as support elements in undertaking terror activities that take lives of Indian citizens, it's security forces and Indian interests. That the cadre is derived from the very same society, has been derived for over three decades now, does not absolve the common Pakistani citizen of his/her complicity in acts of terror within the State of India.

By failing to impose costs on this vital, thriving and belligerent support base, the Government of India will fail yet again to achieve it's overall objective and India will continue to bleed. Any other claims of 'ghar mein ghuske maarenge' or 'naya bharat hai, ghusega bhi aur maarega bhi' are mere slogans of no standing and import, if costs and pain that every Indian feels for every act of terror, is not exponentially imposed on this support base.

How the Government choses to impose this cost on the support base of terror that remains the Pakistani society as a whole, remains to be seen.

Till then, let us not celebrate any victory or appearance of any victory. We have merely taken the first step.
Another instance of well begun is half done. By not escalating, in the event of the PAF attack ( I've no clue why wasn't it done but can and have speculated out here that Modi may have specifically instructed the armed forces to stage something spectacular followed by playing a holding out role. Subsequent to our losing Wing Commander Abhi the way we did and the night of Feb 27 / 28 when diplomacy continued furiously behind the scene, what can be speculated is that India threatened massive retaliation. Pakistan being what it is had already summoned the NCA for a meeting and intentionally moved their TEL's to the launch pads in full view of the satellites, something which may have spooked the world and the US in particular which then muscled its way into seeking some sort of a compromise which resulted in the Wing Commander being released and visible de escalation spread over a few weeks with steps clearly de lineated.) , we lost the initiative. The internal bickering, poor PR handling etc only contributed to the feeling that India didn't own the narrative or the initiative.

Frankly, 2 decades of observing the way the Indian States react only confirms that we are a moth eaten state as far as defending national security goes . We are never pro active, only reactive. Our dhoti clad caste has no world view and if they do it's half baked. Our military class is not emasculated but thoroughly under nourished and it's not just equipments I'm referring to. We still lack a National Security Doctrine, internal reforms in the MoD, armed forces, etc.Our chatterati ( academia / public intellectuals / MSM English language journalists) are in a world of their own and continue to punch above their weight.

We will get to where we intend to not by design but by default because the enemy we confront is even more stupid than we give it credit for and since any action on our end can only be in the form of a reaction to a major outrage. Pulwama is only one chapter in the saga. Many Pulwamas were enacted in the past 4 decades and this isn't certainly the last Pulwams we'd be facing.

P. S for the sake of brevity, pls ignore spelling and other grammatical errors. Typed it on the go. May have missed making / elaborating on a few points .
 
“On 14 February 2019, a suicide terror attack was conducted by a Pak based terrorist organization Jaish-e-Mohammad, leading to the martyrdom of 40 brave jawans of the CRPF. JeM has been active in Pakistan for the last two decades, and is led by MASOOD AZHAR with its headquarters in Bahawalpur. This organization, which is proscribed by the UN, has been responsible of a series of terrorist attacks including on the Indian Parliament in December 2001 and the Pathankot airbase in January 2016. Information regarding the location of training camps in Pakistan and PoJK has been provided to Pakistan from time to time. Pakistan, however, denies their existence. The existence of such massive training facilities capable of training hundreds of jidhadis could not have functioned without the knowledge of Pakistan authorities.

India has been repeatedly urging Pakistan to take action against the JeM to prevent jihadis from being trained and armed inside Pakistan. Pakistan has taken no concrete actions to dismantle the infrastructure of terrorism on its soil. Credible intelligence was received that JeM was attempting another suicide terror attack in various parts of the country, and the fidayeen jihadis were being trained for this purpose. In the face of imminent danger, a preemptive strike became absolutely necessary.

In an intelligence led operation in the early hours of today, India struck the biggest training camp of JeM in Balakot. In this operation, a very large number of JeM terrorists, trainers, senior commanders and groups of jihadis who were being trained for fidayeen action were eliminated.

This facility at Balakot was headed by MAULANA YOUSUF AZHAR (alias USTAD GHOURI), the brother-in-law of MASOOD AZHAR, Chief of JeM. The Government of India is firmly and resolutely committed to taking all necessary measures to fight the menace of terrorism. Hence this non-military preemptive action was specifically targeted at the JeM camp.

The selection of the target was also conditioned by our desire to avoid civilian casualties. The facility is located in thick forest on a hilltop far away from any civilian presence. As the strike has taken place only a short while ago, we are awaiting further details. The Government of Pakistan had made a solemn commitment in January 2004 not to allow its soil or territory under its control to be used for terrorism against India.

We expect that Pakistan lives up to its public commitment and takes follow up actions to dismantle all JeM and other camps and hold the terrorists accountable for the actions.”


source: Text of foreign secretary’s statement on air strike


Aforementioned, one can find the full text of the statement read out by Mr. Vijay Gokhale, Foreign Secretary of India, on 26 February 2019, on India's use of air power in retaliation against the suicide bombing carried out against Indian Central Reserve Police Forces (CRPF) at Pulwama in the Indian State of Jammu and Kashmir on 14 February 2019. The use of air power by India to target terrorist training camps/infrastructure deep inside Pakistan Occupied Jammu & Kashmir (PoJ&K) and Pakistan, was a marked departure from the approach taken by the previous regime to similar strikes on the Indian State at Mumbai, Ahmedabad and elsewhere. In the process, it also laid bare the bluff of the Pakistani State of threatening a war that could turn nuclear, if India was to use air power to strike into Pakistan. (Mr. Ahmad Mukhtar Chaudhry, Pakistan Defence Minister, Monday, 22 December 2008).

This bold new approach quickly brought to fore the use of military means as tools to achieve politico-diplomatic objectives by Prime Minister Modi, which had thus far, remained elusive while following the traditional approach followed by successive Indian governments as evident with lack of any progress on Mumbai attacks, Pathankot and Gurdaspur provocations. The Surgical Strike by Indian Special Forces authorized by the Government of India in September 2016, while not exactly the first of it's kind, became the first instance wherein the political dispensation at power took an overt ownership of the act, in order to impose certain 'Politico-Diplomatic Costs' on Pakistan, in addition to the limited military costs on the outfit and their supporters.

This incident had it's fair share of critics and sceptics, primarily because the inherent nature of military operations undertaken by Indian Military Forces anywhere in India and beyond, forbids release of details. That it quickly convoluted into a Political slug fest, was but a given, as the response of the Indian public, tired by decades of tolerating an assault on it's security, overwhelmingly fell in behind the Prime Minister and the opposition was left floundering. Sensing a dissonance in the Indian Political Scene, Pakistan and it's agents, quickly got o work to create a narrative intended to create an impression of growing intolerance (fueled by certain sections seeking political advantage in garb of Hyper nationalism), antipathy of one section towards another (in order to target the Sikhs, North Eastern states and Tamils) and a general culture of questioning the Government of the day over every statement, thereby lending credence to a perception that the Government is out to mislead/misdirect the common Indian.

As India found itself at dissonance with itself, the primary aim of carrying out a military strike - imposing costs on Pakistan, was quickly lost as an opportunity to exploit the same was lost in the political slugfest being played out in the Parliament, Assemblies and Social Media/media. The zenith of the farce was achieved with the armed forces themselves coming under a cloud as Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) leader Mr. Kejriwal and Congress Party (INC) leaders Rahul Gandhi, Digvijaya Singh and Trinamool Congress (TC) leader Mamata Bannerjee, sought to question the veracity of the strikes itself. Soon, the Chief of Army Staff, General Bipin Rawat, PVSM, UYSM, AVSM, YSM, SM, VSM, ADC was found to have been accused by AAP Leader Mr. HS Phoolka of being complicit in orchestrating a bomb blast in Amritsar. ("Inadvertent Comment, Regret It": AAP Leader HS Phoolka On Army Chief, November 19, 2018 12:00 IST).

Fast forward to 14 February 2019. Sensing an opportunity as the country heads into General Elections in April-May 2019, Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) and it's handlers, Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence, carried out what is now clearly the first suicide attack in Kashmir Valley since early 2000s, targeting an Administrative convoy of CRPF at Pulwama. In the aftermath of the strike, as the Government of India considered various options, the use of Air Power remained the most obvious taking into consideration the inclement weather conditions in the State of Jammu & Kashmir, Pakistan Army's likelihood of being postured to target another Indian Special Forces attempt, and the inherent need to graduate the scale of 'costs' upwards for Pakistan.

The use of Air Power was designed to achieve precisely this. As Government of India claimed the strike, Pakistan was found tying itself up in knots as it hurried to deny multiple strikes within the territories controlled by it, including as deep as at Balakote in the Pakistani State of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa (KPK), and then being under tremendous pressure to react to Indian 'aggression'. Pakistan quickly mobilized it's forces, in the process shifting quite a chunk of troops involved in anti-terror operations in Baluchistan and territories of erstwhile Federally Administered Tribal Area (FATA) and parts of KPK. The use of Pakistan Air Force (PAF) to retaliate against what essentially was an anti-terror operation claimed by the Government of India, by striking Indian military targets and downing an IAF Mi-21 Bison, is essentially an Act of War and overt support of a State to terrorists and their infrastructure. By all diplomatic, political and military logic, the act of the Government of Pakistan, it's defence forces and it's agencies, is an act of war carried out with an intent to protect, nurture and defend the terrorists on their soil.

With these actions, the subsequent actions of the Government of India, broke the basic principle that is essential in use of military power to achieve definitive political objectives - imposition of costs that break the will of the enemy to fight.

There is no ambiguity that the State of Pakistan, it's citizens and it's defence/intelligence forces, remain complicit in not only the sustenance and nurturing of terrorist organizations but also play an active role as support elements in undertaking terror activities that take lives of Indian citizens, it's security forces and Indian interests. That the cadre is derived from the very same society, has been derived for over three decades now, does not absolve the common Pakistani citizen of his/her complicity in acts of terror within the State of India.

By failing to impose costs on this vital, thriving and belligerent support base, the Government of India will fail yet again to achieve it's overall objective and India will continue to bleed. Any other claims of 'ghar mein ghuske maarenge' or 'naya bharat hai, ghusega bhi aur maarega bhi' are mere slogans of no standing and import, if costs and pain that every Indian feels for every act of terror, is not exponentially imposed on this support base.

How the Government choses to impose this cost on the support base of terror that remains the Pakistani society as a whole, remains to be seen.

Till then, let us not celebrate any victory or appearance of any victory. We have merely taken the first step.

Fighting pakistan to the last pakistani is not an option. Indias aim should be weaken pakistan from within n create chaos.explore their faultline ethnic provincial repigious n every thing else.
Goi should make seprate funding of billions of dollars for funding ttp pasteen mujhairs n balochis. We need to hurt the people in power n their families start eliminating isi pa and deep state people like mossad does.they need to loose their loved ones their families.that will show results.running behind jokers like hafeez is not going to yield nething.
Cripple pakistan economically let there be chaos. Break iwt and stop all water let there be world condemnation. Dnt worri abt bloody british arsey americans n chu..ya chinise.then u will have results.
N first of all stop daily mujra shows at wagah border...n faking aman ka tamasha.
 
Few things we skipped during this standoff -


Iran-
Sushma Swaraj made a detour from a scheduled visit to Bulgaria to met Iran FM but except stupid chest thumping Iran did nothing even when we provided them the opportunity by engaging Pakistani forces on their eastern border.

Iran is also criminally silent on Kulbhushan Jadhav case where they can substantiate our claims by speaking truth. Also occasionally these insecure little kids get some misplaced anger over Kashmir or India even when our complete support to them.

I think it is time we need to rethink our relationship with Iran, be it Gas block allocation or Chabahar or Kulbhushan or Kashmir statement Iran has proven to be a very unreliable nation, we should downgrade our ties with them especially considering a lot more incentive we can get from US, Israel and Middle East for that. Iran is not even our major trading partner so it will be easy if treat them for what they are and not go out of our limb for them every time in the name of some stupid "non-alignment" or Independent policy. Independent foreign policy doesn't really mean to shoot yourself I foot.

It's important to note here that Iran conducted bombing of Israeli diplomats on Indian soil not long ago even after Israel's unwavering support for us during every tough time.


Pakistan's Western border -
Contrary to what Pakistan claim about our support to indigenous Baloch freedom struggle we didn't see any action on Pakistani forces, shows the goof up Manmohan Singh in Sharm al Sheikh, also how Modi's signalling from Red fort was not followed and acted upon.

We are also looking very inadequate in Afghanistan even after spending billions and having good will. It's strange we didn't have any significant militia under our belt that can give a bloody nose to Pakistan at will. We have failed monumentally in Afghanistan and that include spymaster Doval's reign of 5 years! Afghanistan is a place where there is no shortage of raw material needed to pay Pakistan in the same coin still we have nothing to show is mind boggling.


Our biggest failure is in to create assets that we can control to create mayhem in Pakistan at will and it's more shameful when we have an NSA who advocated, planned similar things outside power. Never in the history of our nation did we have an NSA who held this much power, Doval is Modi's goto man for everything related to security and foreign affairs, more like Chief of staff to the POTUS and that's what makes this failure monumental.
 
Not just imposing a economic cost we also need to seek war reparations explicitly. During kargil war so many lives were lost and development funds diverted for fighting the war but Pakistan which started the war just walked away. We need to capture territory / prisoners and demand financial penalty for releasing them not making them explicitly pay is just plain encouragement to repeat it again.


The 'costs' is a very broad term.

It has 02 components: a. Direct or tangible b. Indirect or intangible.

The latter is a very vague and dynamic concept that I propose and it is in this sphere, that we need to focus and expand our capability to exact costs.
 
This is what "Fighting Pakistan to the last Pakistani" means.

With Pakistan in a financially poor position, having pissed off every single neighbor except China, and with their military now shifting large scale to the Eastern front; India should continue tiring them out and wasting their resources by keeping them distracted - with occasional skirmishes (sort of like Israel & Egypt's War of Attrition).

Meanwhile, the real damage can be done on the Western border. Iran needs to be convinced to grow some balls and settle its scores with Pak, the Baloch groups need to be supported in every feasible way with money & weapons flowing like water, NDS can do their thing in Pakistan, FATA & KPK should be set on fire by stoking the Pashtun Movement into a real rebellion with an endgame of joining Afghanistan, and the TTP should also be given just enough support to make sure they survive without making them too strong.

Then if/when needed, in a few years, we can make a move for denuclearization, and carve up Pakistan like a fat Eid bakra. Balochistan & Sindh can become independent nations friendly to India (maybe bound by certain agreements and treaties), KPK/FATA joins the Afghans, PoJK is taken back - doing whatever is necessary with the people. And then Pakee Punjab can be left as a piss poor, water starved, landlocked and disarmed, pathetic country - completely at India's mercy.
 
Gentlemen and the odd woman who comes this side (oh we have them too).

I must confess that I have an ulterior motive here, in writing what I did above.

Far too long have we deluded ourselves with the 'noble principles' of peace and non-violence. These two virtues, and indeed they are virtues, are a luxury afforded to those who have the power to impose peace and ensure non-violence, for without power, you are challenged as a State and as a Nation at every step of the way. So, I would not be amiss if I say that to uphold our way of life, of peace and non-violence, we have to resort to violence of the most gory kind.

Adding further to what I had stated earlier, the use of asymmetric forces in conduct of warfare is not a new concept. Indeed, insurgencies and 'rebellions' have oft been used as tools to disrupt the capacity of a nation to wage war and break the moral of its people, thereby providing an invaluable and essential tool in the early termination of the war itself and a favourable outcome for the nation resorting to the means (generally). We have seen the same played out effectively in the Vietnam War, Soviet intervention in Afghanistan, Russian forces in Crimea and Ukraine, Indian support of Mukti Bahini in Bangladesh, to name a few. With the established precedent of the same, what we fail to appreciate in our present crisis is the need to target the will of the nation opposing us.

A nation's capacity to wage war is predominantly based on the capacity of its citizens to actively support and participate in the successful prosecution of war. An asymmetric war is a war nevertheless. Hence, the issue of not targeting the support base of this war, the Pakistani Citizenry in this case, remains a self defeating act. The policy needs to be changed, immediately. It can be achieved in the following ways:

1. Increasing the costs to the Pakistani military by calibrated escalation along the LC. At present, the Government of India, contrary to it's public declaration of giving a free hand to the forces, has placed certain restrictions on them - that of keeping all actions under the threshold of escalation to total war.

This concept of 'partial war', as implied, is non-existent and irrational. No war is partial, or 'limited', for if that is the way a war is conducted, then failures are, but a guarantee. War is always fought in its totality, by using all means and methods to achieve the objectives. If the objective of the Army is given to be impose exponential military costs on the Pakistani forces, proportional response has no role. One can not constrain the armed forces to respond with a 105 mm Artillery Gun if a 105 mm Artillery Gun is used by the opposing forces. Simple as that.

2. Increasing the costs to the Pakistani Economy. Let us be very clear, it needs to be strangulated and strangulated as of yesterday. The partial increment of pressure on an already beleaguered Pakistani economy, by increased tempo of operations in all three dimensions, needs to be potentiated with implementation of boarding and searching operations by IN in the Arabian Sea, to check for transfer of materials of potential use by terrorists. It can include crude, weapons, explosives, or even goods that can be traded to generate income which can be used for terror financing.

3. Cultural and people to people interaction, cross border/LC trade, should be stopped immediately.

4. Selective covert operations must be undertaken against any and all individuals/entities that are found to be associated with these terror operations. It can include banking/financial institutes not necessarily located in our territory.

Until and unless we create a policy that aims to extract a heavy cost from the Pakistani civil society for every transgression by terror outfits emanating from it, we will continue to suffer.
 
Buddy, what we have missed is very shocking and if I to go by your theory of imposing cost, we need to do something even more shocking. The F-16s which were within the Pak air space had used BVRAAMs against our aicraft flying within our territory in the engagement on 27th Feb. Once again like bloody fools we applied self restraint. If we have to really apply cost, we must now use our own BVRAAMs against PAF aircraft flying within their own airspace. We have the where withal to even shoot down PAF aircraft as deep as 250kms within Pak air space. They have done it. What holds us back?
 
What we need to do is provide latest long range sniper rifles to balochi insurgents.Along with explosives and rpgs.
Snipers will create fear disproportionate to their number and cost.

I really think there should be a consideration of giving them actual MANPADS. Air power is way more central to Pakee war against Baloch & Pashtuns than it is to any Indian anti-terror/insurgency ops. Plus, if Russian and/or Chinese ones start showing up in Baloch hands, how on Earth will Pakistan prove it was specifically India?
 
What we need to do is provide latest long range sniper rifles to balochi insurgents.Along with explosives and rpgs.
Snipers will create fear disproportionate to their number and cost.


That does not impose cost on their civil population. Measures to extract cost from the civil society, have to be formulated. That needs a consideration, a well thought out plan and execution till objectives are realized.
 
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Buddy, what we have missed is very shocking and if I to go by your theory of imposing cost, we need to do something even more shocking. The F-16s which were within the Pak air space had used BVRAAMs against our aicraft flying within our territory in the engagement on 27th Feb. Once again like bloody fools we applied self restraint. If we have to really apply cost, we must now use our own BVRAAMs against PAF aircraft flying within their own airspace. We have the where withal to even shoot down PAF aircraft as deep as 250kms within Pak air space. They have done it. What holds us back?

We don't have any capability to shoot down aircraft 250 kms into pak airspace,thats just hyperbole.
The amraam is a better bvr than the r-77 and yet its no escape zone is merely 20-30 kms.The best missile meteor thats going to come with rafale has a no escape zone of 60-90 kms.Max range officially means very little against agile enemy fighters,maybe against transports and awacs.R-77 is quite a mediocre missile,i don't expect many kills at range in a war with this weapon against targets that have jammers.But r-73/hmds rocks .r-27 is probably phased out by now as an obsolete missile.Once we have S-400 we can shoot down awacs/transports at 250 km,and fighter targets at 120 km.
 
I really think there should be a consideration of giving them actual MANPADS. Air power is way more central to Pakee war against Baloch & Pashtuns than it is to any Indian anti-terror/insurgency ops. Plus, if Russian and/or Chinese ones start showing up in Baloch hands, how on Earth will Pakistan prove it was specifically India?

MANPADS are useless against jet bombers,but might be useful against helos.
 
Gentlemen and the odd woman who comes this side (oh we have them too).

I must confess that I have an ulterior motive here, in writing what I did above.

Far too long have we deluded ourselves with the 'noble principles' of peace and non-violence. These two virtues, and indeed they are virtues, are a luxury afforded to those who have the power to impose peace and ensure non-violence, for without power, you are challenged as a State and as a Nation at every step of the way. So, I would not be amiss if I say that to uphold our way of life, of peace and non-violence, we have to resort to violence of the most gory kind.

Adding further to what I had stated earlier, the use of asymmetric forces in conduct of warfare is not a new concept. Indeed, insurgencies and 'rebellions' have oft been used as tools to disrupt the capacity of a nation to wage war and break the moral of its people, thereby providing an invaluable and essential tool in the early termination of the war itself and a favourable outcome for the nation resorting to the means (generally). We have seen the same played out effectively in the Vietnam War, Soviet intervention in Afghanistan, Russian forces in Crimea and Ukraine, Indian support of Mukti Bahini in Bangladesh, to name a few. With the established precedent of the same, what we fail to appreciate in our present crisis is the need to target the will of the nation opposing us.

A nation's capacity to wage war is predominantly based on the capacity of its citizens to actively support and participate in the successful prosecution of war. An asymmetric war is a war nevertheless. Hence, the issue of not targeting the support base of this war, the Pakistani Citizenry in this case, remains a self defeating act. The policy needs to be changed, immediately. It can be achieved in the following ways:

1. Increasing the costs to the Pakistani military by calibrated escalation along the LC. At present, the Government of India, contrary to it's public declaration of giving a free hand to the forces, has placed certain restrictions on them - that of keeping all actions under the threshold of escalation to total war.

This concept of 'partial war', as implied, is non-existent and irrational. No war is partial, or 'limited', for if that is the way a war is conducted, then failures are, but a guarantee. War is always fought in its totality, by using all means and methods to achieve the objectives. If the objective of the Army is given to be impose exponential military costs on the Pakistani forces, proportional response has no role. One can not constrain the armed forces to respond with a 105 mm Artillery Gun if a 105 mm Artillery Gun is used by the opposing forces. Simple as that.

2. Increasing the costs to the Pakistani Economy. Let us be very clear, it needs to be strangulated and strangulated as of yesterday. The partial increment of pressure on an already beleaguered Pakistani economy, by increased tempo of operations in all three dimensions, needs to be potentiated with implementation of boarding and searching operations by IN in the Arabian Sea, to check for transfer of materials of potential use by terrorists. It can include crude, weapons, explosives, or even goods that can be traded to generate income which can be used for terror financing.

3. Cultural and people to people interaction, cross border/LC trade, should be stopped immediately.

4. Selective covert operations must be undertaken against any and all individuals/entities that are found to be associated with these terror operations. It can include banking/financial institutes not necessarily located in our territory.

Until and unless we create a policy that aims to extract a heavy cost from the Pakistani civil society for every transgression by terror outfits emanating from it, we will continue to suffer.

I doubt you can openly confirm or deny; but I hope that India's covert capabilities in Pakistan are being rebuilt as we speak to undo the damage done under Desai and especially the Grand Idiot Gujral.

Once capabilities are sufficiently developed; we ought to declare an all-out total sub-conventional war on Pakistan as well. Full support to anyone who's ready to fight them within their country, blasts anywhere and everywhere, hits on anybody remotely associated with terror groups or their military. Harassment of any entities, even on foreign soil, that may be working with them (i.e. banks which you mentioned).
 
That does not impose cost on their civil population. Measures to extract cost from the civil society, have to be formulated. That needs a consideration, a well thought out plan and execution till objectives are realized.

What needs to be done is very simple.Any company that does business in pakistan will not be allowed access to indian market,including chinese companies.As our economic strength increases we must sanction pakistan.
 
What needs to be done is very simple.Any company that does business in pakistan will not be allowed access to indian market,including chinese companies.As our economic strength increases we must sanction pakistan.


That may appear self defeating, our industrial base and technical expertise is dubious at times.

But this is one line that needs to be thought out. I remain convinced, costs need to be imposed on their public. Then only will they change their behavior. Their inherent hatred towards India, nurtured from their inability to justify themselves as a nation coupled to perpetuity as a nation with an identity crisis, is untreatable. India needs to accept that and to survive as a nation, we need to embrace this reality, that our way of life, our way of thinking and our existence, will always be a target for them and their ilk.