BREAKING: India clears $470 million deal for 13 @BAESystemsInc Mk45 naval main guns for under-build @IndianNavy warships.
India clears $470 million deal for 13 BAE Mk45 naval main guns for IN warships
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This is unexpected! 
Otobreda was selected earlier.
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Reason -> Oto Melara Barred From Indian Navy's Gun Tender
Otobreda was selected earlier.Edit:
Reason -> Oto Melara Barred From Indian Navy's Gun Tender
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we don't even build these guns at home?
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why are these guns so expensive???
470 million for just 13 guns?
you could almost get 145 M777 152 calibre Guns for this much , is there something i am missing here.
also israel got the same number of guns for 30 million USD less , apparently we indians aren't the best negotiators as we think ourselves to be or there are some kickbacks involved for our corrupt bureaucrats and top navy brass. and this is like 9 months ago.
State Department Approves $440 Million Sale of 76mm Naval Guns to Israel
State Department Approves $440 Million Sale of 76mm Naval Guns to Israel
The Israeli guns are 76mm (3 in) OTO Merala though.
Same gun as shown here. You'll notice the cupola is different on the Israeli Sa'ar 4.5 (above) and Norwegian Nansen and Skjold (below) however. The Norwegian guns use a cupola that minimizes the gun's radar cross section.
What India is buying is a 127mm (5 in) naval gun. Much larger and with US support could fire projectiles like the US Navy's Hyper Velocity Projectile, essentially a railgun slug fired from a deck gun.
The 127mm guns are huge. To put into perspective the difference between a 76mm Oto Merala and a MK45, here's a comparison.
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well the last 2 pics really helped putting things in perspective , thanks for elucidating so properly and as always your camera work is on pointThe Israeli guns are 76mm (3 in) OTO Merala though.
Same gun as shown here. You'll notice the cupola is different on the Israeli Sa'ar 4.5 (above) and Norwegian Nansen and Skjold (below) however. The Norwegian guns use a cupola that minimizes the gun's radar cross section.
What India is buying is a 127mm (5 in) naval gun. Much larger and with US support could fire projectiles like the US Navy's Hyper Velocity Projectile, essentially a railgun slug fired from a deck gun.
The 127mm guns are huge. To put into perspective the difference between a 76mm Oto Merala and a MK45, here's a comparison.
"Wisemarko" on D. F. I. :
Are we buying naval main guns just now or is it just being delivered now ? WTF ?!?! Is that why the Vizag class is still under-construction ? Can we get a "Make in India" part given that BAE has a JV with Mahindra defence and are already building and supplying the M777 ?
Are we buying naval main guns just now or is it just being delivered now ? WTF ?!?! Is that why the Vizag class is still under-construction ? Can we get a "Make in India" part given that BAE has a JV with Mahindra defence and are already building and supplying the M777 ?
This might be for the delivery of Mk45 gun system. Our MoD approved this purchase way back in 2018.
India – MK 45 Gun System
WASHINGTON, November 20, 2019 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to India of up to thirteen (13) MK 45 5 inch/62 caliber (MOD 4) naval guns and related equipment for an estimated cost of $1.0210 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on November 19, 2019.
The Government of India has requested to buy up to thirteen (13) MK 45 5 inch/62 caliber (MOD 4) naval guns and three thousand five hundred (3,500) D349 Projectile, 5”/54 MK 92 MOD 1 Ammunition. Also included are other ammunition, spare parts, personnel training and equipment training, publications and technical data, transportation, U.S. Government and contractor technical assistance and other related logistics support. The total estimated cost is $1.0210 billion.
This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security of the United States by improving the security of a strategic regional partner.
The proposed sale will improve India's capability to meet current and future threats from enemy weapon systems. The MK-45 Gun System will provide the capability to conduct antisurface warfare and anti-air defense missions while enhancing interoperability with U.S. and other allied forces. India will use the enhanced capability as a deterrent to regional threats and to strengthen its homeland defense.
The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.
The principal contractor will be BAE Systems Land and Armaments, Minneapolis, Minnesota with gun manufacturing in Louisville, Kentucky. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale. Any offset agreement required by India will be defined in negotiations between the purchaser and the contractor(s).
Implementation of this proposed sale will not require the assignment of additional U.S. Government and/or contractor representatives to India. However, U.S. Government or contractor personnel in country visits will be required on a temporary basis in conjunction with program technical oversight and support requirements.
There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.
This notice of a potential sale is required by law and does not mean the sale has been concluded.
All questions regarding this proposed Foreign Military Sale should be directed to the State Department's Bureau of Political Military Affairs, Office of Congressional and Public Affairs, [email protected].
WASHINGTON, November 20, 2019 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to India of up to thirteen (13) MK 45 5 inch/62 caliber (MOD 4) naval guns and related equipment for an estimated cost of $1.0210 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on November 19, 2019.
The Government of India has requested to buy up to thirteen (13) MK 45 5 inch/62 caliber (MOD 4) naval guns and three thousand five hundred (3,500) D349 Projectile, 5”/54 MK 92 MOD 1 Ammunition. Also included are other ammunition, spare parts, personnel training and equipment training, publications and technical data, transportation, U.S. Government and contractor technical assistance and other related logistics support. The total estimated cost is $1.0210 billion.
This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security of the United States by improving the security of a strategic regional partner.
The proposed sale will improve India's capability to meet current and future threats from enemy weapon systems. The MK-45 Gun System will provide the capability to conduct antisurface warfare and anti-air defense missions while enhancing interoperability with U.S. and other allied forces. India will use the enhanced capability as a deterrent to regional threats and to strengthen its homeland defense.
The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.
The principal contractor will be BAE Systems Land and Armaments, Minneapolis, Minnesota with gun manufacturing in Louisville, Kentucky. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale. Any offset agreement required by India will be defined in negotiations between the purchaser and the contractor(s).
Implementation of this proposed sale will not require the assignment of additional U.S. Government and/or contractor representatives to India. However, U.S. Government or contractor personnel in country visits will be required on a temporary basis in conjunction with program technical oversight and support requirements.
There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.
This notice of a potential sale is required by law and does not mean the sale has been concluded.
All questions regarding this proposed Foreign Military Sale should be directed to the State Department's Bureau of Political Military Affairs, Office of Congressional and Public Affairs, [email protected].
Cant we build our own naval guns ? Looking at India's shopping list makes question our abilities to manufacture at home.