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Mahathir hits out at India for invading, occupying Kashmir - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

Must read how Mahathir accepts his cowardice on Uighur muslims, and Chinese drilling in Malaysian waters. On India however he got some words, I hope we award him duty cuts and more imports, if he is subservient to China we are better at this quality for any country against us.
He is already 90+ , soon will meet his hoors. Probably he is Bushra Bibis 2nd jinn along with Imran khan.
 
A Plan To Retake Pak-Occupied Kashmir And Gilgit-Baltistan

Lt Gen PR Shankar Retd, September 17, 2019


Abrogation of Article 370 has changed the Indo-Pak landscape in toto. It has irreversibly cemented J&K as an integral part of India like other states. It has brought into focus the future of illegally occupied POK and Gilgit-Baltistan. The statements of Shri Rajnath Singh that further dialogue with Pakistan will be on POK have deep ramifications.

Maharaja Hari Singh acceded the complete state of Kashmir including Gilgit, Baltistan, Kashmir, Jammu, Leh and Ladakh to India in 1948. These areas were never acceded to Pakistan. Were they? Hence, all this is Indian territory. On the other hand, Pakistan signed a standstill agreement with the ruler but broke it and invaded Kashmir. Pakistan occupied POK by force. Gilgit and Baltistan were amalgamated into Pakistan through British perfidy. Pakistan has consistently denied treating these areas as its provinces. These areas have been in illegal occupation by Pakistan for seven decades. However, times and conditions have changed. A revisit is warranted.

POK and Gilgit-Baltistan have been governed through extra-judicial and legislative mechanisms outside the Constitution of Pakistan. People of POK and Gilgit-Baltistan have been consistently told that they are not an integral part of Pakistan. Article 257 of the 1973 Constitution of Pakistan states: “When the people of the State of Jammu and Kashmir decide to accede to Pakistan, the relationship between Pakistan and the State shall be determined in accordance with the wishes of the people of that State”. However, it does not specifically mention that the regions of the state that it presently occupies are part of its territory. In September 1994, the Supreme Court held that since the Gilgit-Baltistan region was not part of Pakistan, the judicial matters pertaining to it were outside the purview of the Pakistani courts. Ipso facto, Gilgit-Baltistan is legally not part of Pakistan. POK and Gilgit-Baltistan whether they were a single territorial unit (earlier) or bifurcated (now) have been administered under special Councils headed by the Prime Minister of Pakistan without representation in the Pakistan national assembly or recourse to the supreme judicial processes of the land. Simply put, POK and Gilgit-Baltistan are not an integral part of Pakistan. They were acceded to India. Hence, these Indian territories should be taken back. It’s time to start that process.

We could commence the process after Kashmir stabilises so that we do not bite more than we can chew. However, the Kashmir problem is seven decades old and will take some time to stabilise. Retaking POK and Gilgit-Baltistan will also take time. They need not be serially linked but can be pursued in parallel. The momentum and initiative are with us. We should not soft-pedal. Commencing the process will change the narrative. Controversial and illegal projects like CPEC and illegal cessation of the Shaksgam Valley by Pakistan to China will be revisited. A wedge should be driven between Pakistan and China to reduce their collusion against India.

Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir



POK covers an area of 3,297 square km with a total population of about 4.5 million. It has borders with Pakistan’s Punjab (south), Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (west), Gilgit and Baltistan (north) and Jammu and Kashmir (east). It is about 16 to 60 km in width and 400 km in length. It has high hills to the north petering down to plains of the south like our own side of the LoC. The population is mostly Muslim. Majority population is Punjabi and not Kashmiri due to a planned demographic inversion. It also resulted in sectarian inversion, with Shias rendered a minority. There is very little cultural affinity to people in India anymore. Agriculture is the main occupation with very little industry. The literacy rates are better than rest of Pakistan. There is a sizeable expat population which is settled abroad, largely in the United Kingdom.

Though termed as ‘Azad’ Kashmir, there is hardly any ‘Azadi’ for even a bird to fly freely. Pakistani authorities allow very few freedoms. For three decades it has been a recruiting, training, logistical and launching base for state-sponsored terror groups. It has a high density of Army deployment. Land ownership by retired military personnel is high. The 2005 earthquake resulted in a lot of Internally Displaced People (IDPs) who have been neglected. Sub-surface simmers with unrest, disaffection and discontent. Nationalist groups demand independence. Their leaders, driven out of the country, operate from abroad. There are regular anti-Pakistan protests on water and environmental issues. There are protests on enforced disappearances like elsewhere in Pakistan. Clashes with security forces take place. However, people in this region might not display much affinity to India since they have been at the receiving end in three wars and in cross-LoC duels. This was evident in the treatment of Wg Cdr Abhinandan when he bailed out in POK. One must be sensitive with the population to win them over. If the tabloid reports in Indian media are to be believed, Imran Khan was confronted with slogans of ‘Niazi Go Home’ and ‘Kashmir Banega Hindustan’. That is ominous and the ground might be shifting.

Gilgit-Baltistan (Balwaristan)



Gilgit-Baltistan shares borders with POK (south), Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (west), Wakhan Corridor (north), Xinjiang (east and north east) and Leh (south east). It is also known as Balwaristan. It encompasses an area of approximately 73000 sq km with a population of about two million. Literacy rate is high. Its topography is like Leh. High wind-swept plains and snow-clad mountains. It is in the lap of the greatest mountain ranges of the world—Hindukush, Pamirs, Karakorams and Himalayas. Agriculture and mountaineering tourism dominate the economy. Skardu is connected to the Leh region through the Indus and Shyok waterways. The Karakoram highway runs from Islamabad, Gilgit, Kunjerab Pass and Kashgar. This is the backbone of the CPEC also. The Indus collects most of its waters in Gilgit-Baltistan. In fact, water security of Pakistan hereafter will be at the expense of Gilgit and Baltistan. It is an area of significant strategic importance. It gives India a direct overland access to Afghanistan (Wakhan Corridor) and the Central Asian Republics.

Initially, people of Gilgit-Baltistan wanted to be part of Pakistan as its province. This was denied to them. In 2009, the Gilgit-Baltistan Empowerment and Self-Governance Order gave them some rights, but were rolled back by the new Gilgit-Baltistan Order in 2018. Deprived of constitutional rights, they are now aggrieved. It is a tribal area. The population was predominantly Shia. Though it is still a Shia-majority region, a huge Sunni influx has been encouraged which upset the ethnic balance and gave rise to sectarian strife. Gilgiti and Balti soldiers have sacrificed their lives for Pakistan without recognition. Poor treatment of Northern Light Infantry soldiers in the aftermath of the Kargil war is not forgotten. The Karakoram highway pollutes the environment. It has also brought in drugs and guns. Land acquisition for CPEC is without due compensation for the community since it is customarily “common land”. CPEC is also depriving them of livelihood due to influx of Chinese labour. People are anti-CPEC and anti-Chinese. The area has been kept underdeveloped deliberately and in abject poverty. The disaffection rate is high. Large-scale disturbances and agitations are envisaged. Overall, in this backdrop of sentimental, ethnic, legal, economic, political strife and uncertainty, scrapping Article 370 has spurred people to look beyond Pakistan. Very clearly there are indications that activists are knocking at various doors to get rid of the Pakistani yoke. The Balwaristan National Front seeks independence from Pakistan. There is even a nascent sentiment to join India.

Strategic Approaches

Political Decision: The first national political decision should be restitution of the ground positions in POK and Gilgit-Baltistanto the cartographic borders as depicted in various maps of India. The political decision to retake the area must be firm, clear and unambiguous. It should not just be post-370 rhetoric. It is a commitment in which India should be prepared to invest for the long haul with consistency and sincerity.

Unified Policy: Irrespective of the government or party in power, we should stay the course without policy flip-flops. Hence, we need inner political consensus at a national level, rising above narrow political ideologies. Our motormouth politicians should not upset the apple cart with loose statements.

Internal Understanding: The centre of gravity in retaking POK and Gilgit-Baltistan is winning over the people. That means an understanding that India will be taking on board five million Muslims more. All religious, ethnic and ideological hardliners need to be tempered. We cannot spook the scared kitten.

De-hyphenation: POK and Gilgit-Baltistan are distinct and different. The people of Gilgit-Baltistan do not want to get clubbed with POK. Each area leads to a different strategic objective. POK puts you on the doorstep of Islamabad. Gilgit-Baltistan gives you access to Afghanistan and destroys Pakistani status of a ‘frontline’ state. POK and Gilgit-Baltistan should be de-hyphenated and pursued as different objectives. It will force Pakistan to look in multiple directions. Wherever Pakistan yields will be our gain.

Strategic Communication: Strategic communication will play a huge part. A perception is already forming that India is changing the game. The message to China and Pakistan to stop CPEC projects in POK and Gilgit-Baltistan is the opening gambit. The follow up will include communicating and opening a direct channel to the people of POK and Gilgit-Baltistan. It could be like the Republic Day address of PM in 2015 when a mention of Balochistan was made. Strategic communication must be thought through and executed as per a plan.

Timing: ‘Now’ is the best time to start the process. Pakistan is down on many counts. Pakistan is responding to India’s political gambit with military hype through a drummer boy PM to provoke war. It is totally offbeat. China is caught in an economic slowdown, trade war and its own homeland problems amidst a global recession. The international community is also a bit fed up of Pakistani antics and will give tacit support to India if not for anything else. The United States might see it as a great opening. That is if we play our cards right.

Diplomatic Outreach: Restoring POK and Gilgit-Baltistan to India is only a correction of an historical anomaly. Diplomatic outreach to the international community should project India’s principled stand. USA should be taken on board. USA has relied on its double dealing ‘frontline’ partner to thwart Homeland Security threats emanating from Af-Pak area. If POK and Gilgit-Baltistan are re-amalgamated into India, stabilisation of Afghanistan will be facilitated by a reliable strategic partner. U.S. think tanks can start considering this perspective instead of creating two-three unstable countries as envisaged by Selig Harrison in Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. What of China? China did not show any morality in claiming the nine-dash line, forcibly occupying Spratly Islands or in rejection of ICJ ruling. It should be told off accordingly.

Hard Versus Soft Power: Soft power must take lead. Media, Bollywood, understanding tribal culture, democracy, aspirations, shared socio-economic values, history, religion et al should be employed to win the people over and start a people’s movement. Hard power can follow once the ground is made. It is economic and political part of hard power which needs to roll out. The omnipotent military part should be the last resort and the least component. However, at some stage we might have to resort to hard power and at that time we should not hesitate.

Non-military Non-nuclear: There is lot of talk and hype about retaking POK and Gilgit-Baltistan militarily. Any military option will raise the nuclear stakes to an unacceptable level. That is precisely what Pakistan wants! Pakistan Army is professional and will be more than a match along the LOC if we are bull-headed. Our approach must be non-military non-nuclear and indirect. Planners should read Liddel Hart’s classic ‘The Strategy of Indirect Approach’ before embarking on this venture. Most importantly, we must learn from abrogation of Article 370. The political rapier cuts better than military hammers. Reinforce success please.

Operational Lines of Action

General: Once the strategic issues are in place and policy decisions taken, there are plenty of lines of action. These should be dynamic and responsive to situational demands. These lines of action should exploit Pakistan’s fault lines. Some would be specific to POK and some to Gilgit-Baltistan. A one-size-fits-all approach should be avoided. Flexibility should be built in. Some lines of action are outlined in succeeding paragraphs. More can be added by think tanks and planners.

Political Lines: Politically communication to people in POK and Gilgit-Baltistan should highlight fruits of democracy and progress in India. Seats in J&K parliament kept historically vacant for these areas can be filled on nomination basis from displaced persons. They would then get representation in our democracy to air their grievances. Human rights record of Pakistan is a major fault-line to be exploited. Enforced disappearances in all parts of Pakistan are a major issue. Minority communities are being systematically targeted including Shias, Ahmadiyyas, Hindus and Christians. Even Barelvi Sunnis are at the receiving end of this onslaught. Pakistan is an epicentre in a war of ideas that is taking place within the larger Muslim world. Continuance in Pakistan confers them second-rate status. People who want to cross over can even be granted asylum.

Economic Lines: Pakistan is a failed state whose collapse is imminent. Pakistan has heaped only economic misery which can be exploited. Loss to the people for continuing in Pakistan needs highlighting. They contribute to the water security of Pakistan and get no compensation. CPEC is causing tremendous loss to them for other provinces to prosper. Allocation of CPEC resources is disproportionate in this area. Even availability of food and basic issues is getting out of reach of the common man due to runaway inflation.

Diplomatic Action: A concerted diplomatic effort must be launched. There should be an outreach to all activists in/out of Pakistan to give them moral support. We should be able to give all organisations who seek independence from Pakistan a platform from which they can articulate their aspirations democratically. Diplomatic dialogue should begin with Pakistan for return of these areas to India. Any nation’s mediation offer for return of these areas can even be considered.

Social And Cultural Issues: Environmental degradation and its adverse effect on their lives needs highlighting. Education, jobs, development and social opportunities can be outlined. The demographic inversion of this region needs exposure. Chinese influx into the area is a live and current issue. The status and neglect of IDPs needs social focus. Neglect of people who have sacrificed their lives for Pakistan, especially from northern areas must be highlighted. The tremendous soft power of our media can bring these burning social issues to the people.

Military Action: Military lines of action should be low key and well below the threshold of Pakistan’s redlines. All-out war scenarios are totally avoidable. Initially, we should maintain a low-key military profile with a hybrid approach for which there is much scope. If the need arises, everyone concerned can be communicated that India will hold its ground with all resources at its disposal. Ultimately, it will be the strength of the armed forces which will be the sheet anchor on which this entire campaign will be mounted.

Conclusion

It will be argued that it is not correct or imprudent for India to act in a manner which is being suggested. Well, we are in a world of realpolitik and we should have the guts and gumption to retake what is ours. No one is going to hand it on a platter to us. Otherwise, let us stop showing this area as ours on maps. It’s time for India to shed its softness. Having said this, we should set our own house in order. That implies within Kashmir and out of it. All this is possible by democratic consensus and cooperation, not by majoritarian attitudes or rhetoric. If we are not strong and united internally, we will not be able to with stand and overcome the combined onslaught of China and Pakistan. A strong blowback is only to be expected.

(The author has served four decades in the Indian Army in multiple operational areas and is currently a professor at the Aerospace Department of IIT Madras. Views expressed in this article are personal.)

A Plan To Retake Pak-Occupied Kashmir And Gilgit-Baltistan - Strategic News International


What’s at stake for India in China’s water war? - Open The Magazine
 
I do agree on the fact that India gets a far smaller share of water then we should and that we haven't even fully utilised the share we have yet. Pakistan is unlikely to ever build infra capable of full utilisation of water granted to it by IWT. What I think we should be doing is create infra to fully utilise our share and then start slowly nibbling away Pakistan's share(this is being done already). We can re-negotiate IWT or scrap it outright when we have the means to use the added share of water. As of now we don't have such ability.

As for China, I am beginning to think their abilities are greatly over played. Remember the usual and rather popular retort : "China will cut off Brahmaputra river water if we scrap IWT with Pakistan" ? Well that's total bull****. Geography alone will not allow it. Read this old article :

China cannot rob us of Brahmaputra

By Nilanjan Ghosh | Updated on January 09, 2018, Published on November 27, 2017
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Water flows in arid Tibet are much lower than in the Indian side. So, there isn’t so much water for China to divert

Media has long been reporting on China’s plan of northward rerouting of the Brahmaputra waters (known as Yarlung Tsangpo in Tibet) from the Tibetan borders through constructions of dams. This has emerged as a prime point of contention with China-India strategic relations. Brahma Chellaney, one of the foremost strategic thinkers of India, described the Chinese design of taking control over Brahmaputra water as “most dangerous”. The fear of drying up of the Brahmaputra has become widespread in Indian public psyche, especially in Assam. This hypothesis of perceived fear is termed in this article as the “Brahma hypothesis”.

The growing water demand in Tibet and the option available in principle to China of building water storage and transfer projects on the Yarlung have given birth to such fears in India. The apprehension is this can affect Bangladesh further downstream. The concern has aggravated with the news of Chinese plans to build a 1,000-km-long tunnel to divert water from the Brahmaputra River in Tibet to the parched Xinjiang region. It has been reported in sections of the media that the perceived Chinese threats to divert the river’s water prompted the Centre to call an inter-ministerial meeting recently to discuss proposed projects on Brahmaputra.

Amidst the clamour about Chinese projects on Brahmaputra, there has hardly been an objective data-based analysis of the popular “Brahma hypothesis”. These contentions deserve to be examined through data, hydrological regimes, upstream interventions and their downstream implications.

Identifying the flow

The Brahmaputra is identified as the flow downstream of the meeting of three tributaries, namely Luhit, Dibang and Dihang, near Sadiya. The link of Brahmaputra with Yarlung Tsangpo, which originates from the Angsi glacier near Mt. Kailash, was discovered rather recently. Out of the total length of the Brahmaputra of 2,880 km, 1,625 km is in Tibet flowing as Yarlung Tsangpo, 918 km is in India known as Siang, Dihang and Brahmaputra and the rest 337 km in Bangladesh has the name Jamuna till it merges into Padma near Goalando.

As a trans-Himalayan tributary, Yarlung is substantially fed by snow and glacial melts, in addition to rainfall. The normalised melt index (defined as the volumetric snow and glacier upstream discharge divided by downstream natural discharge) of the Brahmaputra is merely in the range of 0.15-0.2, signifying that snow and glacial melt, the main source of run-off in the Tibetan region, contributes negligibly to the total flow.

Making the discourse realistic

The Tibetan region lies in the rain shadow with the Himalaya acting as the barrier to the rain-laden monsoon. The annual precipitation in the trans-Himalaya Tibet averages about 300 mm annually. As the tributaries cross the Himalayan crest line, the annual average precipitation reaches about 2000 mm. A very large component of the total annual flow of Brahmaputra is generated in the southern aspect of the Himalaya in India by tributaries from Buri Dihing in the East to Teesta in the west.

Data published by Chinese scholar Jiang and team show that the total annual outflow of the Yarlung River from China is estimated to be about 31 BCM while the annual flow of Brahmaputra at Bahadurabad, the gauging station near the end of the sub-basin in Bangladesh, is about 606 BCM. These figures do not support the linear thinking that the flow in a river is proportional to its length inside a country.

Further, while the peak flows during monsoon at Nuxia and Tsela Dzong in Tibet, a measuring station at the great bend in the Tibetan plateau, are about 5,000 and 10,000 cumecs, as presented by Vijay Singh and colleagues, the peak flow at downstream Guwahati is around 40,000 cumecs and the one at Bahadurabad in Bangladesh is approximately 50,000 cumecs.

During the lean season, the flow in Nuxia, as identified from a hydrograph given in Rivers and Lakes of Xizang (Tibet) (in Chinese), is 300-500 cumecs, while the one at Pasighat is to the tune of 2000-odd cumecs, the one at Guwahati is around 4000-odd cumecs, and Bahadurabad is about 5000 cumecs, all these being peer-reviewed data.

This data shows that the Brahmaputra gets fatter and mightier as it flows further downstream. This is more so because of the flow contribution of the various tributaries like Dibang, Luhit, Subansiri, Manas, Sankosh, Teesta to name a few. This can be noted from the fact that at Guwahati (Pandu), the percentage annual yield of the main river course from Pasighat is barely 34 per cent, while the tributaries like Dibang, Luhit, Subansiri, as also the tributaries joining between Pasighat and Guwahati contribute the remaining 66 per cent. Further downstream, the mainstream contribution diminishes further.

Another concern relates to the impact of the projects on the sediment flow. Can water diversion affect sediment flow? The flow volume and discharge in the Yarlung River is not sufficient to generate and transport carry the very large sediment load as in prevalent in the downstream Brahmaputra.

The annual suspended sediment load near Nuxia in Tibet is around 30 million metric tonnes, (as suggested in a 2016 volume titled River Morphodynamics and Stream Ecology of the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau by Wang and colleagues), which is miniscule as compared to same load measured as 735 million metric tonnes at Bahadurabad.

Therefore, the large amount of suspended sediment load that gets deposited in the downstream to form a fertile Jamuna floodplain cannot be carried by the Yarlung-Tsangpo stretch. It is created further downstream in India, where precipitation is almost 12 times higher than the rain shadow Tibet.

A popular hypothesis

Prima facie, it can be said that the impacts of water diversion (or even hydropower like the Zangmu Dam) in the Yarlung-Tsangpo cannot have substantial impact on the flow regime in the Indian boundary, especially in the Assam floodplains and Bangladesh. The concern of many in India has been based on the perception that structural interventions always reduce downstream flows, which, in case of Brahmaputra, is not true.

Based on the hydro-meteorological data, it seems highly improbable that a cloudburst can occur in the rain-shadow Tibet so as to cause floods in Assam. Therefore, the “Brahma hypothesis” or the myth spread in the media does not stand the test posed by scientific data and knowledge. Informed science should inform public perceptions, policy, hydro-politics, and water governance, rather than jingoistic emotions or linear, reductionist logic.

The writer is heads economics and water governance at the Observer Research Foundation, Kolkata. The views are personal.

China cannot rob us of Brahmaputra

For all the hype about China's abilities, when rubber meets the road its a different story. You could say the same about the ongoing US-China trade war. @BMD you might be interested in this.
 
i have a very important question.you blamed us thousand times for selling part of kashmir to china.what the hell you were doing when we were selling it? did you raise any objection at that time? you blame us every time,for every single thing,even for a cylinder blast.

Sir we Indians have weakness. We forget things very soon. Unlike Pakistan which still remembers 1965 and 1971 and ready to avenge it. Indians have forgotten 1962 how we were thrashed and NO Lessons learnt and that's why Kargil happened.

FeeI good when I tell you one thing, your country is continuously trying to achieve something in Kashmir which is in Indian side, there are every day attempts, Pakistan has not stopped even after India's surgical strikes or what ever raids. Compare it to India's involvement in POK you will see India does not even have a foot print there, and the reality is we can't do jack sh*t in POK because there is no local support to Hindus.

All of the members are talking about India mounting aggression against Pakistan capturing territory. I tell you one thing, even if India is able to capture some chunk of land, India will not be able to retain it.

You should also feel happy when I say, I am really bit worried that if India was just 200 Million of population Pakistan would have finished us long time back due to lethargy in Indians where 1 Billion Indians are not able to handle your country. It's only because of India's large population it has survived. Our Hindu mentality has become very introvert and we are only restricted to 4 walls.

Secondly, you will not be blacklisted and India's UN speech has achieved nothing because whatever the issue is, as per the world, it's about Kashmir which is on Indian side. No one has uttered anything about POK. So again feel good about this.

There will not be war till Trump is president, our government is marketing it's leader that's all and endorsements to Trump because India can help him winning the election. The day elections in US is over, and may God forbid Trump loses the elections, Pakistan will carry out first strike and begin the war and there won't be any support from US to India like right now.

This is international politics.
 
A few new points regarding the terrorists operating in Kashmir

1. Some sources are claiming Limited infiltration of men into the valley proper has occurred over the past few weeks. Nature unknown as of yet but could be fidayeen. Other sources deny it altogether.
2. Explosives, albeit in limited quantities, has reached the militants. Estimated to be adequate for 4-5 attacks at this stage.
3. Emphasis by handlers is on high impact operations. Expect IED attacks and fidayeen attacks. Emphasis on rallying the people around a martyr. Expect possibly even teenage suicide bombers.
4. Expect increase in artillery shelling on key logistics routes over the next month. Objective will be to limit final build up of logistics supply for winter stay at high altitude positions. Aim is to see if any opportunity can be created.

Bhai itna sab Pakistan kar raha hai and we are celebrating Surgical strikes anniversary in Delhi. :ROFLMAO:
hadh hai yaar humarey yahan logo ki bhi

Rather some one stole onboard cmputers from INS Vikrant and daily there are exposes of some politician or officer getting honey trapped. Surgical covert operations to wo log kar rahein hai roz. Neither we have achieved our goals from that surgical strike nor we have gained an inch of territory. Everything is either for diplomacy or domestic consumption. Mazaak bana diya hai.
 
it's not for domestic audience.he made his point.we wanted to tell the world real situation before we can again start something.even if khan don't want anything,public will not stay silent.growing pressure on khan to deliver.pakistan is a party to kashmir dispute.if we accept indian decision,it means betrayal to the people of kashmir.i know india thinks that it did something great but you break your constitution.you call yourself a democracy.in democracy,you can't break constitution.indian intentions is clear to us and why not fight till the end rather than accept it as new normal?pakistan have no choice left.
Arsalan there is one thing I have always been very curious about. Indians are trying to build a secular democracy and every time we do something which may not be secular or democratic, entire Pakistan tells us how bad we are and that we are falling short of our own standards.

But you guys are trying to build the perfect Islamic state are you not ? The standards of a state built on divine law is much higher than that of a state built on man made law.

How come nobody ever says , you call yourself a Muslim state, so you can’t lie and cheat and steal and kill and forcibly convert and destroy the environment and rape young boys and sell donkey meat as beef and Mistreat the poor and honor kill women ....etc etc etc....

We are constantly held up to the standards of secularism and democracy but you are never held up to the standards of divine law ...why is that ?
 
Surgical covert operations to wo log kar rahein hai roz.
Modi has just executed the strike of the century on Pakistan and on Indians' themselves who were addicted to the status quo, as regards to article 370. We ruined the Afghan deal. India was practically the only country which supported elections in Afghanistan ( the US, China, Russia all favoured the interim government, where there would be no legitimate Afghan government with a fresh mandate. An interim government would only have benefited the Taliban and it's puppet master Pakistan), and elections have happened... India is like a super tanker, and Modi has managed to bring it to a halt, and it has slowly started to move in the right direction, and God save the Pakistanis' when the Indian supertanker gathers pace.
 
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Modi has just executed the strike of the century on Pakistan and on Indians' themselves who were addicted to the status quo. We ruined the Afghan deal. India was practically the only country which supported elections in Afghanistan ( the US, China, Russia all favoured the interim government, where there would be no legitimate Afghan government with a fresh mandate), and elections have happened... India is like a super tanker, and Modi has managed to bring it to a halt, and it has slowly started to move in the right direction, and God save the Pakistanis' when the Indian supertanker gathers pace.

That helps India only then when India wants to use Afghanistan to thrash Pakistan. That region is never stable and border areas are still within rogue elements which are pro Pakistan. I literally see not much change with these events happening.
 
That helps India only then when India wants to use Afghanistan to thrash Pakistan. That region is never stable and border areas are still within rogue elements which are pro Pakistan. I literally see not much change with these events happening.
The idea is to keep Pakistan unbalanced for as long as possible, and not allow Afghanistan to fall under Pakistani control for as long as possible...
 
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