India - Pakistan Standoff 2019

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Jaymax said:
Pak has removed fake pic peddler and put in a girlfriend beater as their UN representative

Munir Akram replaces Maleeha Lodhi as Pakistan's ambassador to UN | The Express Tribune

U.S. Asks Pakistan to Lift U.N. Envoy's Immunity After a Violent Quarrel


Munir Akram is a hardcore anti India person who advocates taking a hard line against India. Pak is cooking something?
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He is chosen because he is Bajwa's younger brother's brother-in-law, not because of his political leanings.
FYI Pakistan is anti-India.Period.
 
'We would not like any state to tell us what to buy or not to buy from Russia any more than we would like any state to tell us to buy or not buy from America' -- Jaishankar

"We view Iran from the east, and from the east Iran has been a very stable, status quo power," -- Jaishankar

Hmmm.. Nice...
 
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Deathstar said:
Same is happening with India , scrapping 370 was deemed impossible uptill now. The stronger u get , less u care about other's pressure. China killing Uighurs , erasing their culture , trafficking their organs when they are a 10 trillion economy. India will become a 10 trillion economy in 2032-33 as well and then we will flex like China.
Just like Malaysian PM dared to speak against India now but chickened out when asked about Uighurs.
I am with China on their treatment of Uighurs. Best way to deradicalize it to use even harsher radical methods.
We give unnecessary leeway to these gutter jihadis. A bit violence and Chinese unleashed their own methods on them and warned that "stop this or we can unleash more violence than u can"
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I agree.why do we need to send our regulars in Kashmir? We have adopteD same strategy.the best way is violence.that is the way forward for all of us.
 
rockstarIN said:
Read our IA chief's statement. Cross border strikes including ACs will come back to POK.
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Yes I read it and even read your new air chief statement.also feel sad for B's dhanao because he is now retired so interesting times ahead but policy will not change.deathstar and I understand the policy of violence.without air strikes, cross loc action and bomb blasts,you can't hurt your enemy.as I said, violence is the way forward.
 
Arsalan123 said:
I agree.why do we need to send our regulars in Kashmir? We have adopteD same strategy.the best way is violence.that is the way forward for all of us.
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Your way of bleed India with 1000 cuts will never be successful. Compare last 30 years and calculate who has suffered the most India or Pakistan. You have suffered more cuts by your own knives. This difference will only increase. Your best chance for Kashmir was first 48, next 65 and then final the 90s. But now u wont ever get an inch of the Indian land.
Zia was the best thing to happen to India. He radicalized entire Pakistani society and started downfall of Pakistan as a state.
Imran Khan is just continuing that trend. Nawaz tried to change it but failed. Benazir killed.
We want Pakistan to stat radicalized so that fundamental issues like economy , infrastructure , development are ignored and Kashmir is kept burning.
Better to have enemy like Pakistan whose focus is bleeding the enemy rather than focusing on own issues
 
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Indx TechStyle said:
i was not talking about women, i was talking about the false history that you guys are taught since day one, sure we lost to china in 1962 it was a complete defeat that showed our weakness , and sure we shot down our own helicopter in an unfortunate incident and no sane indian will be hesistant to admit that , but we never surrendered to china and we never will.

you see in india we dont have DUAL CITIZENSHIP all indians and there fate is joined with the fate of india this is the only country we have , all our gods, monuments everything is here only so make no mistake even if china gives you unilateral military support to think that we will surrender it will be a bloody war till the end.
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It will be abloody war till the end of Pakistan.
 
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Cole_phelps said:
‘How do you hyphenate India with Pak, which is one-eighth of your economic size’: S Jaishankar


Reminds me of "Af-Pak" hyphenation that Pak mods banned on their site after term was coined by US.
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Nope.. Only the status-quo ists were running away from the hyphenation. As if closing our eyes, to the Kashmir issue, and ignoring it, will somehow make it go away.
Jaishankar says that by that logic India should not even talk about South Asia, for fear of being hyphenated with Pakistan .Jaishankar is throwing a challenge at liberal journalists like Shekhar Gupta, by saying that India's interests are supreme, and hyphenation or de-hyphenation be damned.
The truth is simple here: Dealing with or going to war with Pakistan, does not bring India down to Pakistan's level, just like India talking about China, or fighting China, does not elevate India to China's level.
 
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Arsalan123 said:
Media don't talk about uigher.i only see american aggressive approach on uigher issue.some members on our forum in Pakistan raised voices and some showed articles to counter it.we don't know but China is not a country who can kill it's own citizens.that is not possible.
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Thats a stunning disply of ignorance.

https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/02/05/who-killed-more-hitler-stalin-or-mao/

Arsalan123 said:
What are you talking about? Where do you guys live? I mean they are all facts.even surrender of Pakistan and surrender of France against Germany is a part of history.we read it everyday.why do you want to change history? There is no shame in accepting defeat if you are fighting a powerful enemy.
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As others said defeat and surrender are different concepts.

Take a break from this thread.

Moved off-topic posts :
India - Pakistan War of 1971
 
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Cole_phelps said:
‘How do you hyphenate India with Pak, which is one-eighth of your economic size’: S Jaishankar


Reminds me of "Af-Pak" hyphenation that Pak mods banned on their site after term was coined by US.
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A country twice the size of Maharashtra, population similar to UttarPradesh ,economy of 600 billion (which is sufficient for them) is able to hold a country, which went nuclear in 1974, has a population of 1.3 billion, highest output in agricultural crops and economy of 2.7 trillion dollars, third highest numbers of Phd scholars, . Well at least India should give credits to Pakistan for the last 30 years in giving us sleepless nights every day. The Napakis did n incredible job in keeping us behind LOC.
 
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