LCA Tejas Mk1 & Mk1A - News and discussions

They are making sure we cannot export them.

The contract itself will take almost 4 years to fulfill before they can start delivering the follow-ons.
Koreans got lucky with FA-50 with localised engine production, leave aside Tejas, the gripen are getting engine sanction on selling those jets, argentina got second hand f-16 buy American or get sanctions from them,
 
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It won't meet our schedule now. The entire point of 97 additional jets was to plug the gap between Mk1A and Mk2, so indigenization was secondary. The focus is now on F414.
Could we re-engine the f-414 in the mk1's? Heard the dimensions are pretty much the same for both engines.
 
Delusion of relevance.

They are actually sticking to the timeline that was agreed upon in the contract. HAL always lied and overpromised.

No, they are not. They were even fined for the delays.


If we order 97 jets this year, will they be able to deliver engines 2 years after a second engine contract is signed, or will they take 4 years again? The latter is only possible if they do not plan on delivering more than 20 engines pa.

If we go by the current timeline, it will take 8.4 years to deliver enough engines to equip each jet ordered, not counting reserves. Or effectively 10 years to get them all.

HAL did not overpromise. Our production capacity is 27 pa, but with 20 engines pa, we can deliver only 20 jets and no reserves when the IAF would like 24. Export orders were supposed to provide at least another line, so the actual engine requirement is 35-40 pa.
 
No, they are not. They were even fined for the delays.


If we order 97 jets this year, will they be able to deliver engines 2 years after a second engine contract is signed, or will they take 4 years again? The latter is only possible if they do not plan on delivering more than 20 engines pa.

If we go by the current timeline, it will take 8.4 years to deliver enough engines to equip each jet ordered, not counting reserves. Or effectively 10 years to get them all.

HAL did not overpromise. Our production capacity is 27 pa, but with 20 engines pa, we can deliver only 20 jets and no reserves when the IAF would like 24. Export orders were supposed to provide at least another line, so the actual engine requirement is 35-40 pa.
It was fake news.

"It has been noted that some media organisations have carried a story that India plans to impose penalties on General Electric for delay in delivery of Tejas engines. The story is factually incorrect as there was no such proposal under consideration. The contract is between HAL and GE," said a defence ministry official.


At the time when contract was signed they only had two lines. Additional line is getting operationalised this year.
 
It was fake news.

"It has been noted that some media organisations have carried a story that India plans to impose penalties on General Electric for delay in delivery of Tejas engines. The story is factually incorrect as there was no such proposal under consideration. The contract is between HAL and GE," said a defence ministry official.


At the time when contract was signed they only had two lines. Additional line is getting operationalised this year.

The report about MoD levying the penalty was wrong and was denied. But HAL was supposed to impose it and it appears they backed out to keep F414 alive. The first engine was supposed to be delivered in Nov 2023.

The third line is already operational, the first jet will roll out in a matter of weeks. These 3+1 lines are for the IAF. Export needs new lines, depending on the size of the orders secured.

At 20 engines pa, the new line is almost useless. They will have to build at all 3+1 lines at 60-70% capacity now, such a waste.
 
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