Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

STEPHEN COHEN said:
The Chinese should not be allowed to seize the Initiative

They will withdraw only when their Casualties rise above a certain number

For Four months you have been asking them to leave

Do you think that waiting for conflict to begin is not a tiring situation for the soldiers

We have to stop being reactive
Make them worry about what will happen next

Othwrwise their soldiers will sleep.peacefully and ours will always be on alert

This is what happened on LoC where Pakistan had the initiative and our troops were on " Gaurd Duty "
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My friend, you don't have any idea how patrolling is done in the border region? I take it from your post content, correct observation?
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1303202782132879360
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RISING SUN said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1303201693929099265
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Two things are of interest here -

a) China trying it's level best to create a narrative which helps them substantiate it's offensive, when it comes. It needs the citizens of China to support their saviours against the 'aggressive and evil' Indian forces.

b) India maintaining ambiguity in terms of the official version, as it might very well be what Shiv stated, i.e. using the Chinese playbook against them, or it might also be that China was actually the aggressor, yet again.

In either case, it is clear that this won't de-escalate any time soon and will only go up the escalation ladder.
China needs a fight, otherwise it's loss of face is unavoidable.

On the other hand, if the fact is, the Chinese fired warning shots, the question that needs to be asked is why warning shots. Indian armed forces went in took black top from under their noses, sometime back and still the best they can do is warning shots, lack of guts, eh, the Chinese?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1303212125540687873

Chances of point a being correct increases.
Note, Indian forces and actions "Evil".
 
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STEPHEN COHEN said:
I believe we should have Firefights on a Daily basis and kill some of their soldiers regularly

Let us see how.long.they can keep hiding casualties

Or they will be forced to escalate using
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Thats a very stone age method. With so much research and development of warfare methods, one should aim to strike one and Take Lahsa.
 
It seems like PLA tried to do Galwan under pretext of negotiations. Then they later would have built narrative that fight broke out during heated conversation and overwhelming PLA forces waiting would have later joined in fistfights or other unorthodox methods to beat back IA. When PLA approached like Trojan horse, we fired in the air. Now Global times is furious.
 
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maint1234 said:
Global times , open threats now. Probably to influence FM talks scheduled in the near future or building up to some action.

Indian border troops’ bravado will backfire: Global Times editorial - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn www.globaltimes.cn
If China starts any s..t on the border India needs to come down like a ton of bricks with its AF as well. No half measures.
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Cole_phelps said:
It seems like PLA tried to do Galwan under pretext of negotiations. Then they later would have built narrative that fight broke out during heated conversation and overwhelming PLA forces waiting would have later joined in fistfights or other unorthodox methods to beat back IA. When PLA approached like Trojan horse, we fired in the air. Now Global times is furious.
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In Bengali there is a saying - "Nyara bael tola e ekbar jae", meaning, a bald guy only goes under a Bael tree once!! This saying literally came true wrt to IA if the Chinese tried to do a repeat of Galwan incident. IA was like, we know how this ends, so let's not go there - fires warning shots to let the pandas know that next one will be aimed at their head.

AND

Global Times cannot keep its sh*t together after we "warned" the Chinese!
 
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maint1234 said:
In 1962 , the incidents were similar. Small firefights with claims and counter claims , and India convinced that it would all be local like on the western sector .
The Chinese had been planning for 3 years and after building a narrative of Indian inflexibility, launched their major attacks.
Many might not know that though fighting was in many sectors , our substantial reserves were still in middle India when hostilities stopped.
Our indecisiveness is well documented in 1962, with the airforce not being involved.
Many of the old issues persist, biggest being living on hope rather than preparation.
Incase of serious conflict, India should be the one with the over reaction, not the victim complaining about Chinese perfidy.
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Which old issues persist ? Cant understand this non stop whining even if we are the one controlling the narrative and giving back to Chinese on the same coin for the first time after many decades .
 
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noksss said:
Which old issues persist ? did modi phoned you and said he is not going to user airforce like nehru did in 1962 ? Cant understand this non stop whining even if we are the one controlling the narrative and giving back to Chinese on the same coin for the first time after many decades .
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Kindly desist from posting if your iq level is below 70. Spoils the thread.
 
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noksss said:
Ok Einstein... rather than getting personal care to explain on which old issue still persist ? if you cant give a good explanation spare this thread from ur whining :)
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Now that you are a banda again , I will reply.
But not go into details as this is not the time for internal sniping.
Since June 20 , we have placed orders for 6 b usd worth of arm supplies. Including 2.5 b usd from Russia and Israel. I need not say more.
 
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maint1234 said:
In 1962 , the incidents were similar. Small firefights with claims and counter claims , and India convinced that it would all be local like on the western sector .
The Chinese had been planning for 3 years and after building a narrative of Indian inflexibility, launched their major attacks.
Many might not know that though fighting was in many sectors , our substantial reserves were still in middle India when hostilities stopped.
Our indecisiveness is well documented in 1962, with the airforce not being involved.
Many of the old issues persist, biggest being living on hope rather than preparation.
Incase of serious conflict, India should be the one with the over reaction, not the victim complaining about Chinese perfidy.
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I have nothing more to say, but facepalm.

maint1234 said:
Now that you are a banda again , I will reply.
But not go into details as this is not the time for internal sniping.
Since June 20 , we have placed orders for 6 b usd worth of arm supplies. Including 2.5 b usd from Russia and Israel. I need not say more.
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Arm supplies mean many thing, you want to say ammo, supplies, clothing, logistics of 6 billion US dollars . Please I dare you to show us 6 billion worth o purchase.

Yeah, our military is not hunky dory. But dont over exaggerate things,

like we are fuked, we can't do anything, we should do hands up.
 
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maint1234 said:
Now that you are a banda again , I will reply.
But not go into details as this is not the time for internal sniping.
Since June 20 , we have placed orders for 6 b usd worth of arm supplies. Including 2.5 b usd from Russia and Israel. I need not say more.
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So what exactly is your point? Is there some kind of rule that Indian Military should not purchase?
 
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maint1234 said:
Now that you are a banda again , I will reply.
But not go into details as this is not the time for internal sniping.
Since June 20 , we have placed orders for 6 b usd worth of arm supplies. Including 2.5 b usd from Russia and Israel. I need not say more.
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Yes ,have no time for internal sniping but few points on old issues not persisting now


Control of information (had it been UPA burka dutt would have released the photo of our men sitting in the top) , Better Border infra ( the very reason for the current faceoff) , CAP in LAC by air force after many decades (Message delivered loud and clear) , a very grand middle finger to CCP/PLA thugs sensitiveness about Tibet and using Tibetans to occupy heights :cool: .And last but not least had UPA was in power the outcome would be china once again pocketing more territory without a single shot and the whole issue being dismissed as pimple on our face . I need not say more.

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