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You seem to trust PAF more than god. Not even a single bomb hit any of its targets due to extensive jamming of all kinds of signals done in that area by IAF.
As per Sameer Joshi sir, the daring dash of the Avenger formation towards F-16s breaching AIM-120C5 MAR along with Abhinandan's actions repelled PAF attack on our Army headquarter.
 
As per Sameer Joshi sir, the daring dash of the Avenger formation towards F-16s breaching AIM-120C5 MAR along with Abhinandan's actions repelled PAF attack on our Army headquarter.
Yes, but more than that it was jamming of every asset including GPS resorted to by IAF that resulted in all of them falling in areas non intended.
 
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I remember a news that an H4 Glide bomb hit the headquarters of a brigade in India

You think Su 30 can make a few beautiful moves at an air show, do you think it has good maneuverability?
Let's not say that the Su 27 itself is downwind from the F15 in the vertical aspect, while the Su 30 weighs up to 18400KG .This will result in its horizontal hovering ability also being at a disadvantage. Even if the canard layout is adopted, it will not help to increase the Lift coefficient by 0.2. Unless a new engine can be installed, the Su30MKI is the fourth generation aircraft with the worst maneuverability
First of all, dont take that guy & his posts seriously. People like him is what a joker to a circuse company.

Secondly, PAF didn't hit the head quarter brigade, it droped inside land belong to military. PAF is saying the missing target is a deliberate action from PAF, & our side is saying it because of our counter measures. You will never gonna know what is the actuall truth.
 
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First of all, dont take that guy & his posts seriously. People like him is what a joker to a circuse company.

Secondly, PAF didn't hit the head quarter brigade, it droped inside land belong to military. PAF is saying the missing target is a deliberate action from PAF, & our side is saying it because of our counter measures. You will never gonna know what is the actuall truth.
Hydra in cahoots with Chinese and Pakistani guys? What a surprise! Lol. And yet dares to call himself an Indian. Maybe alt. account of Pravin Swahney:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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Wrong. Col. Terrence Fornof said that if you use TVC at wrong time, you could sink and lose the vertical advantage.

J11B? LMAO. Su-30MKI is superior to it in every which way. ITR, STR, High Alpha, just name it. Su-30MKI has Thrust to Weight ratio of over 1, so its climb rate is also very good.

This is what a real Indian pilot says about MKI:









You can read this whole interview yourself: Flying & fighting in the Sukhoi Su-30 ‘Flanker’: A pilot interview

Talking about dogfights, one MKI took down 2 Eurofighters at once. Chinese should be scared of it. Period.
You should confidently take a look at his speech. There on YouTube, he means that F15 has a great advantage in climbing. This means that F15 can quickly cut into the rear of the sluggish Su30, while Indian pilots have to use TVC to seize positions, resulting in a rapid loss of energy
 
J11B? LMAO. Su-30MKI is superior to it in every which way. ITR, STR, High Alpha, just name it. Su-30MKI has Thrust to Weight ratio of over 1, so its climb rate is also very good.
Firstly, if the T/W exceeds 1, it does not mean that the climbing ability is good. For example, J11B has reached 1.2, while F15A has reached 1.5. Secondly, the thrust to weight ratio of su30 has not reached 1, and the normal takeoff weight is 26090KG. The engine thrust is around 25000KG. T/W is around 0.95
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This is what a real Indian pilot says about MKI:





You can read this whole interview yourself: Flying & fighting in the Sukhoi Su-30 ‘Flanker’: A pilot interview
This pilot is basically describing the Su-30 as an invincible aircraft. Regarding its shortcomings, he tells you that there are none, It is very strong in this aspect. When it comes to its advantages, he tells you that it is the strongest in the universe, which is more like an interview in India's propaganda,
 
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This pilot is basically describing the Su-30 as an invincible aircraft. Regarding its shortcomings, he tells you that there are none, It is very strong in this aspect. When it comes to its advantages, he tells you that it is the strongest in the universe, which is more like an interview in India's propaganda,
It's almost as if Raj himself was interviewed. :ROFLMAO:
 
First of all, dont take that guy & his posts seriously. People like him is what a joker to a circuse company.

Secondly, PAF didn't hit the head quarter brigade, it droped inside land belong to military. PAF is saying the missing target is a deliberate action from PAF, & our side is saying it because of our counter measures. You will never gonna know what is the actuall truth.
You seem to trust PAF more than god. Not even a single bomb hit any of its targets due to extensive jamming of all kinds of signals done in that area by IAF.
As per Sameer Joshi sir, the daring dash of the Avenger formation towards F-16s breaching AIM-120C5 MAR along with Abhinandan's actions repelled PAF attack on our Army headquarter.
I quoted a report from an Indian media that may have been due to the early release of the bomb, which resulted in insufficient range, but one still hit the target
 
I quoted a report from an Indian media that may have been due to the early release of the bomb, which resulted in insufficient range, but one still hit the target
Pllease read the same report again. It says it was a close call as the bomb dropped within the compound of the Brigade HQ. Falling within the compound without causing damage and hitting the Brigade HQ are two very different things.
 
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lease read the same report again. It says it was a close call as the bomb dropped within the compound of the Brigade HQ. Falling within the compound without causing damage and hitting the Brigade HQ are two very different things.
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Pakistan lacks a real tactical standoff attack platform, that is, missiles with a range of 200-300km. Even if it imports some KD88, it can achieve good results. It is a bit difficulty to attack targets in deep battles with Glide bomb
 
It's almost as if Raj himself was interviewed. :ROFLMAO:
You are disrespecting an operational Indian Air Force pilot. Kindly don't tread there.

You should confidently take a look at his speech. There on YouTube, he means that F15 has a great advantage in climbing. This means that F15 can quickly cut into the rear of the sluggish Su30, while Indian pilots have to use TVC to seize positions, resulting in a rapid loss of energy
I have seen his speech multiple times. He explicitly says that MKI is better than all USAF fighter sans Raptor. You need to re-watch his whole speech.
 
This pilot is basically describing the Su-30 as an invincible aircraft.
He is the most experienced MKI pilot who graduated from first flying Su-30K to MKI. If he says it is invinvible then so is it.
Regarding its shortcomings, he tells you that there are none, It is very strong in this aspect. When it comes to its advantages, he tells you that it is the strongest in the universe, which is more like an interview in India's propaganda,
IAF doesn't believe in propaganda. Everything that pilot said is true. Deal with it.
 
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He is the most experienced MKI pilot who graduated from first flying Su-30K to MKI. If he says it is invinvible then so is it.

IAF doesn't believe in propaganda. Everything that pilot said is true. Deal with it.
Having long flight experience does not mean telling the truth, if you have seen interviews with other pilots, such as Pakistani pilots will admit that JF17 is less powerful, while this Indian pilot is obviously exaggerating, as far as the IAF has no publicity, it is a joke to most people
I have seen his speech multiple times. He explicitly says that MKI is better than all USAF fighter sans Raptor. You need to re-watch his whole speech
What he means is only slightly better than F15C and then you think Su30 is second only to F22. Use the data to speak for itself and don't use Indian hyperboles
I have seen his speech multiple times. He explicitly says that MKI is better than all USAF fighter sans Raptor. You need to re-watch his whole speech
What he means is only slightly better than F15C and then you think Su30 is second only to F22. Use the data to speak for itself and don't use Indian hyperboles
 
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I quoted a report from an Indian media that may have been due to the early release of the bomb, which resulted in insufficient range, but one still hit the target/URL]
That's an opinion of a news source which has less worth than most of western media sources.
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Pakistan lacks a real tactical standoff attack platform, that is, missiles with a range of 200-300km. Even if it imports some KD88, it can achieve good results. It is a bit difficulty to attack targets in deep battles with Glide bomb
The Pakistanis used h4 sows which are license copies of the denel raptor. You have no clue of what you are talking .
 
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Some old Sukhoi patents regarding T-50 where the said targeted RCS was set lower than F-22. F-16.net guys were very happy, obviously, lol.

But US fanboys are in for a nasty surprise. China displayed a 6th gen fighter concept in a simulator which looked so much like Su-57 in profile.

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Here is LM concept 6th gen art which they recently displayed:

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Source of both images: China's 6th generation fighter concept appears in AVIC simulator - Air Data News

Both are eerily close to Su-57 than F-22/F-35/J-20 in profile.

IMO, when Sukhoi claimed that Su-57M is going to be a near 6th gen plane or a 5+ gen, people laughed. But they shouldn't now after seeing these 6th gen concepts.
If that looks like an Su-57 to you, I suggest you visit an optician.
 
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@randomradio Looks like Al-51/Type-30 is entering serial production(in limited numbers) from this year itself as I expected. Had we not dropped out of FGFA project, we could have got our plane from 2024 onwards with this very engine. J-20 threat could have been nullified had we got FGFA, but...


Yes, they are sticking to the schedule.

But our jet would need 3-4 years extra due to MKIzation.

We dropped out 'cause the Russians were taking us for a ride. Pressure from the US was present too.
 
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If that looks like an Su-57 to you, I suggest you visit an optician.
I was talking about huge LERX blending into swept wings and extremely pancaked body ala Su-57. Of course, a tailless plane would look quite different to a tailed one.