Pakistan AirForce : Updates & Discussions

Ashwin said:
Random illogical policies are easy to change. Not a risk that Xi can take. There is no shortage of funds to any services.
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With India and Russia, do you think the US would be foolish to sell the F 35?
the next day the F 35 technical data will be on Putin's desk
Even the US allies, Thailand, UAE, Türkiye have no hope getting the F 35. is there any chance For India to get the F 35？
 
LX1111 said:
With India and Russia, do you think the US would be foolish to sell the F 35?
the next day the F 35 technical data will be on Putin's desk
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How did pakistan get latest F-16 when they were in bed with communists?.

India is not with Russia in any sense otherwise US would have sanctioned us. We already operate best attack helicopter and submarine hunters that they can offer.

The new administration is filled with anti-China and pro-India voices. If India feels insecure, anything will be on the table.

LX1111 said:
Even the US allies, Thailand, UAE, Türkiye have no hope getting the F 35. is there any chance For India to get the F 35？
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None of them are allies and turkey will end up getting it in few years with the new administration.

This is a risk that Xi cannot take as the upside is very limited. Intentionally pushing the most populous nation further into US entanglement is not good for either of us.
 
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Ashwin said:
None of them are allies and turkey will end up getting it in few years with the new administration.

This is a risk that Xi cannot take as the upside is very limited. Intentionally pushing the most populous nation further into US entanglement is not good for either of us.
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After 2017, China and India have entered into a de facto hostile state. It is foolish to say after 2020 that China wants India to remain neutral. The lack of alliance between India and the US is more due to the obvious contradictions between them
Ashwin said:
None of them are allies and turkey will end up getting it in few years with the new administration
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Look it up with Google, all three countries have signed military alliance treaties with the US, don't be so stupid
 
LX1111 said:
After 2017, China and India have entered into a de facto hostile state. It is foolish to say after 2020 that China wants India to remain neutral. The lack of alliance between India and the US is more due to the obvious contradictions between them
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Where did i say India is neutral? Pushing india more will reduce the contradictions which is the point.

LX1111 said:
Look it up with Google, all three countries have signed military alliance treaties with the US, don't be so stupid
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You clearly dont know what a treaty alliance means. Anything close is Turkey, which is through NATO not directly with USA.
 
Ashwin said:
How did pakistan get latest F-16 when they were in bed with communists?.

India is not with Russia in any sense otherwise US would have sanctioned us. We already operate best attack helicopter and submarine hunters that they can offer.

The new administration is filled with anti-China and pro-India voices. If India feels insecure, anything will be on the table.
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P8I,Ah64E,Sounds good, but it's not a core technology, But the F35 is the core US aviation technology, the US is willing to sell the F16 to India, but will never sell the F35
Ashwin said:
India is not with Russia in any sense otherwise US would have sanctioned us. We already operate best attack helicopter and submarine hunters that they can offer
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It is public information that India did not oppose Russia's invasion of Ukraine, nor did it participate in the US sanctions against Russia, but instead bought cheap Russian oil on a massive scale
 
Ashwin said:
Where did i say India is neutral? Pushing india more will reduce the contradictions which is the point
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China doesn't care, it's as simple as that, I think Modi would love to be aligned with the US now like the Philippines, but the US is not willing to, the US will not see a strong India in the South Asian subcontinent and Indian Ocean
 
LX1111 said:
P8I,Ah64E,Sounds good, but it's not a core technology, But the F35 is the core US aviation technology, the US is willing to sell the F16 to India, but will never sell the F35
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Through a new MDP law, India is now on par with NATO allies in terms of access to weapons. Plus we have STA-1 status, that puts us on par with SoKo and Japan. That's why we are getting 100% production ToT for the F414. So if IAF wants F-35, the decision will be based on political interest, there will be no bureaucratic hurdles.


Trump is highly transactional. I won't be surprised if he starts pushing for India to enter the F-35 program himself. With NGAD and F/A-XX coming up, the US will stay a generation ahead by the time any F-35s are delivered to India, so there is opportunity for a sale.
 
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