I had already stated many times that AMCA mk1 won't be ready for induction before 2035 (and when it does it will be called a Three Legged Cheetah by then IAF Chief) and AMCA mk2 will go beyond 2040 as technology is developing continuously making AMCA mk1 obsolete when ready as ADA & DRDO are basically chasing technologies that are currently the best which will be obsolete in 2035-2040s like aesa radar when Russians are chasing future ROFAR radars. Basically AMCA mk1 TDs should have been flying by now to be completed by 2030-32 to have been somewhat relevant on induction...
Tejas Mk2 (Medium Weight Fighter) - News and discussions
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So, LCA mk2 is delayed hence the reason for 50 more LCA mk1a to keep line busy...
Ho Gaya Atmanirbhar Bharat....
I think this particular SS which depicts the evolution of the Mk-2 & has been in circulation since 2019 is very informative , which is when & where the design was frozen . If you notice the AUW kept going up in successive renditions which obviously means the IAF was revising it's requirements .
By early 2021 , the ADA / DRDO etc gave their all too famous / infamous interviews during AI-'21 on the T/Ls of the Mk-1a , Mk-2 , AMCA & TEDBF .
The CDR of the Mk-2 was completed in the 2nd half of 2021. The CCS cleared the funds in 2022 which'd be allocated in the FY: 23-24 , IMO. So the "delay" which GE is alluding to , if any , is of 2 yrs between 2019-21. That too would be on account of a change in SQRs of the IAF .
Par for the course given our usual adherence to time schedules & what the overall program has been through , if you ask me.
Somehow , we've this tendency to jump the gun far too often .
Thermal is IR.
Something has to pick up the J-20 as well, before you can cue your IRST towards it.
So, LCA mk2 is delayed hence the reason for 50 more LCA mk1a to keep line busy...
Ho Gaya Atmanirbhar Bharat....
There's nothing special about these things happening, it's all that DRDO+DPSU nexus stifling the ecosystem. It doesn't necessarily have to be for the sake of more orders though.
Still way too far imo, Quantum photonics still in academic study phase. Turning that into solid validated tech development, then industry absorbing it & turning into a product, at least 20 years away. Current focus should be GaN tech, posted a webinar of SSPL person from 2021 somewhereWe are also developing our ROFAR radars. @marich01 will confirm that
Just look at how quickly we've matched West and Russia in GaN tech. From Next year, we'll have operational fighters with GaN based AESA radar and EW systems. How many countries can claim that? We've even surpassed Russia in GaN tech.
As far as ROFAR is concerned. It's true that both Russians and Americans are ahead of us at the moment. But with proper funding from gov., our scientists can make it operational by next decade, IMO.
Maybe our AMCA(definitive version)goes into production with ROFAR radar, just like what FGFA was supposed to.
Calm down bro. It will take 3-4 years to mature as a usable product. Considering track record of over promising scientists celebrate after that not yet.
Yes, from 2026 onwards we'll have operational GaN AESA radars. But the GaN EW is coming into operational service from next year onwards. So, the maturity level seems fine thus far.
We have GAN tech to an acceptable maturity level as well, its the matter of miniaturizing the TRUs & being able to put it on a jet ie create a radar small enough for the jet with acceptable performance matrix. Slightly different sort of example, but listen to this part , from 1:33:20 mark I have linked the timestamp in an webinar, he tells a story related to GaN based SAR designed ,
Uttam for LCA AF mk2 might be first batch on GaAs if by 2027-28, then GaN afterwards. Now that the production agencies are pvt companies and they are maturing tech very fast it can happen earlier, however QC process will be the same & airworthy certification will take its time.
Uttam for LCA AF mk2 might be first batch on GaAs if by 2027-28, then GaN afterwards. Now that the production agencies are pvt companies and they are maturing tech very fast it can happen earlier, however QC process will be the same & airworthy certification will take its time.
Dr. Das confirmed that they have moved from GaAs to GaN for all airborne radars. Tejas MK1A will have GaAs based Uttam, rest all derivatives for Su-30/MK2/AMCA will be GaN based.
No need to doubt our scientists, IMO.
The LCA Tejas Mark II with GE-414 engine is expected to roll out next year after completion of air intake test certification in France in May-June this year. Since the air intake of Mark II is similar to Mark I, the DRDO is confident about bagging the certification and rolling out the first prototype by next year.
DRDO approaches CCS for AMCA project approval
For the love of God, create these testing facilities in India first. Buy an Il76 and convert it to a Flying test bed. Heck , but 2. Unless the testing & certification facilities are totally in India, we can only dream of rolling out AMCA like South Koreans did with KFX.
DRDO approaches CCS for AMCA project approval
For the love of God, create these testing facilities in India first. Buy an Il76 and convert it to a Flying test bed. Heck , but 2. Unless the testing & certification facilities are totally in India, we can only dream of rolling out AMCA like South Koreans did with KFX.
Do not know why they edit out the stores ratings every time. Given money sanction FF likely in early 2025, some common systems like the below should be certified by then.
It seems that the stores ratings are the max capability of each pylon individually. But the 6.5 ton figure is for the airframe overall. Means some of the pylon will be carrying less than it is designed for. Flexibility I suppose.
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However, Janes has learnt that the Indian government included a clause in the funding approval stipulating that this money would be released only after the US government approved a 100% transfer of engine technology to India. The clause is related to India's 2010 selection of the General Electric (GE) F414-INS6 engine to power the Mk 2, according to previous disclosures by GE and India's Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) – an agency under the state-owned Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).
Tejas Mk 2 languishes amid lack of funds
India's Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas Mk 2 programme is languishing without funding, months after the project was approved by New Delhi.
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However, Janes has learnt that the Indian government included a clause in the funding approval stipulating that this money would be released only after the US government approved a 100% transfer of engine technology to India. The clause is related to India's 2010 selection of the General Electric (GE) F414-INS6 engine to power the Mk 2, according to previous disclosures by GE and India's Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) – an agency under the state-owned Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).
If I remember correctly, the maximum speed of tejas is Mach 1.6 and the Su 30 is Mach 2.0
And tejas has the smallest aspect ratio of the fourth generation,
The smaller the aspect ratio, the better the high-altitude performance and the worse the maneuverability
Kya chutiya clause hai bc what if USA doesn't agree for TOT. At least release the money for prototyping why to tie down the entire program unnecessarily.
I don't think this is sensible. As the CDR and prototyping of LCA MK2 never had promised ToT of GE414 , either by ADA or by IAF or was it ever promised to CCS.
It's a recent offer/talk as you may term it. And 100% ToT is further confusing term. What US will likely agree to is what India had with RD33 Series 3 with the Russians. Enough TOT so as the Indian side is able to assemble the engine, test and certify the engine, conduct it's overhaul and repair and in future upgrades if possible.
But it will not share any critical Technology regarding manufacturing of components.
Standard of reporting crashed after desi's took over at janes?
