Ukraine - Russia Conflict


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Pro Russian wargonzoo reports that Ukrainian Forces broke trough Russian lines at Stavky, thus effectively cutting off Russian Forces in Lyman from forces in Torske.

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Think about the length of time it took Russia to get that territory and then length of time in which it was taken from them.
 
Russian telegrams are reporting Russians in Lyman are negotiating for a surrender.

This is the only to completely halt Ukraine offensive... surrender by the thousands with hundreds of armored vehicles flooding them with paper work. :ROFLMAO:

@jetray Awww come on don't hide for being stupidly wrong be a man swallow that butt hurt ego/pride and admit you don't know what you're talking about vast majority of the time.
 
Russian telegrams are reporting Russians in Lyman are negotiating for a surrender.

This is the only to completely halt Ukraine offensive... surrender by the thousands with hundreds of armored vehicles flooding them with paper work. :ROFLMAO:

@jetray Awww come on don't hide for being stupidly wrong be a man swallow that butt hurt ego/pride and admit you don't know what you're talking about vast majority of the time.
yes superman I hear you. US aint losing any thing but every so called ally of US ends up on losing side, vietnam, afghanistan , pakistan and now ukraine.

while ukraine was boasting abt so called grand military success putin finished the referendum. For all the military stuff that ukraine boasted they could not stop the referendum from taking place.

 
They should have surrendered. it's stupid to backtrack from this situation, going to take heavy casualties.
My guess is they have participated or witness atrocities committed on Ukraine civilians and in their minds fear they may get what's coming to them if they surrender.
 
US Losses after 8 years in Vietnam

58,281 dead


Russian Losses after 7 months in Ukraine

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while ukraine was boasting abt so called grand military success putin finished the referendum. For all the military stuff that ukraine boasted they could not stop the referendum from taking place.
Have you seen how that referendum was taking place? Russian soldiers in arms going door to door, making people "vote" at gunpoint with envelope-less ballots so that they could see what the people were voting for?

And have you seen the outcome, in actual total number of cast votes compared to population? They've gotten their "overwhelming" results by threatening people and they still got less than 10% of the total voter base to vote. The rest hid to avoid the thugs.

And even then, you can be sure they cheated on the counting.
 
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My guess is they have participated or witness atrocities committed on Ukraine civilians and in their minds fear they may get what's coming to them if they surrender.
Could be....Or Even if they are inncoent they will get tortured.
BTW participating should be punished, But not Witnesssing especially if you are not in position of power.
Have you seen how that referendum was taking place? Russian soldiers in arms going door to door, making people "vote" at gunpoint with envelope-less ballots so that they could see what the people were voting for?

And have you seen the outcome, in actual total number of cast votes compared to population? They've gotten their "overwhelming" results by threatening people and they still got less than 10% of the total voter base to vote. The rest hid to avoid the thugs.

And even then, you can be sure they cheated on the counting.
Yup!
But he Is threating nuclear war, It Seems Like all the leaders are convinced that he is bluffing, but at the same time everyone calls putin a MADMAN.
BMD, Do You really believe ~ 60K dead?
 
Yup!
But he Is threating nuclear war, It Seems Like all the leaders are convinced that he is bluffing, but at the same time everyone calls putin a MADMAN.
He is bluffing. You cannot invade a country and threaten them with nukes if they don't give up, that is not how nuclear deterrence works.

If he was serious about it, what's to stop NATO giving Kyiv some nukes? NATO has held back from giving Ukraine better weapons to prevent escalation, but if Putin is going to use tactical nukes, what's the point in holding back?