Ukraine - Russia Conflict


I seriously want NATO gifting f16 to Ukraine, and we'll trained pilots. This will solve the two decade long discussion of f16vs flanker in subcontinent. As an Indian,my heart wants flanker to obliterate f16,but my brain is telling something else.

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The only advantage SU-35/30sm have is radar range. I know they use R37M's but so far a Russian CLAIM has been they shot down an SU-27 with it and Ukraine has been finding r37m debris all over Ukraine which tells you r37m is not meant for agile fighters. Russian fighters don't dare come near the frontlines they release their glide bombs still inside Russian territory (Belgorod self bombing) those two flankers shot down in Bryansk Oblast were 40-50km inside Russia so A2A engagements are likely going to be really rare.

The Vipers the Euros are giving Ukraine look like are going to be aim-120c7 capable which outsticks Russian R-77-1's which is their main a2a missile. More importantly if these Vipers come with HARM targeting receiver, AN/ALQ-131(v) EW pod and current HARM missiles it really will be a game changer because the Vipers will be able to fly much closer to frontlines at high-ish altitude taking out Russian SAMs/IADS. Any Russian SAM system that paints these Vipers will have a horrid day because the HARM receiver will quickly know the GPS coordinates of the SAM that is painting it uploading the coordinates to HARM so when that SAM turns off its radar it's not going to matter to the HARM missile.

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No more mig-29's and SU-27's carrying HARMS firing them at the direction it believes the radar is relying on the missiles seeker to find it. Also second most important is these Vipers will be able to carry just about every a2g ordinance in US inventory.
 
Russian PR is claiming to have destroyed 5 Patriot batteries, which is interesting because only 2 were given to Ukraine.
The Patriot is erected as a symbol of Western military and technological power by the Russians, whose destruction would indicate a vulnerability that would be reassuring for them.

Destroying Western equipment becomes a kind of feat that will reassure them that they can win against the West, that the fight is not futile or unbalanced.

Putin himself has declared that the Patriot will be destroyed as soon as it is in Ukraine. De facto he has made it a priority military objective, a symbol of the credibility of his words. This is 100% propaganda which has as a conclusion, "Putin does what he says".

But the lack of visible results from the Russians is upsetting some people, so they seek to reassure themselves that Ukraine is lying, that it is hiding, or that it will soon have no more missiles.

The Russians have been putting the squeeze on Kiev lately for a symbolic victory over the Patriot and I'm not sure that the cost/result ratio is favourable to them.

Another element is that the Russians are also trying to maintain pressure on the eve of a counter-offensive that they have no control over. By playing on its missile strikes or on the destruction of a Patriot, they give themselves their own objectives diverting the gaze from a situation that turns more and more to the initiative of the Ukrainians.
 
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It will only be a decent fight if those F-16s are Vs and come with AIM-120D. They need to be in numbers too, not just 4 or 6 jets, but 4-6 squadrons.

Don't expect much here. It won't set new standards, it's only meant to give Ukraine the chance to make use of a fighter jet's speed once in a while. It acts as a deterrent for protecting their own HQs.
The F-16s will not fly over and bomb Russia's territory, they will remain in the contact zone and will be equipped with ammunition to strike far. When we see the Ukrainians flying old aircraft that are often more exposed than F-16s, especially since many of the Ukrainian planes lost were on the ground.

As we can see, the Russians certainly have a big intelligence deficit and are unable to fly over Ukrainian territory with their own aircraft. Even worse, when we start to see that the Russians are increasingly forced to restrict themselves to their own territory.

At first it was the runways in the war zone (Crimea etc...) that were being hit so hard that the Russians had to move the aircraft. Then some bases near Ukraine were hit by drones, including in Belarus. Recently, two planes and two helicopters were shot down in Russian territory during a bombing mission.

On the Ukrainian side, important intelligence is given to the Russians, which gradually leads them to move away from their air force, if not to do without it. Intelligence and means that target the Russian ground-air defence (anti-radar missile for example) to move it away from the front or destroy it. We see the Ukrainians advancing their own ground-to-air means from the front and I think that we will see the arrival of means (drones) to saturate the Russian means and make them fire a maximum of missiles.

The arrival of the F-16s is part of this dynamic. This conflict reveals more and more the need to obtain the means to strike far with precision. The concept of proximity air support (helicopters) or old-fashioned bombing (smooth bombs, rockets or even a cannon pass) shows its inadequacy in such a conflict. The weapons that make the difference and that are sought after by both sides are these precision weapons, whether in the form of a missile, a guided bomb/rocket or drones, this conflict shows the interest of all this.

In the West, we have long been developing an aviation system where guided bombs have become the norm, to the point where the number of bombs that are counted in an inventory no longer takes into account the smooth bombs, let alone the baskets of rockets. Many people thought and continue to think that this would be too costly a choice and that we should take inspiration from countries like Russia, which would choose to have inexpensive simplicity (smooth bombs etc.) that would achieve the same result in numbers.

But no, it is not a choice, it is a natural evolution of a need that Russia has never fully met, continuing with its old model and finding itself today with hundreds of useless aircraft because it has neither the guided bombs in inventory, nor the doctrine of use, nor its full integration with ground units. It is not the Russian capacity to strike far with missiles that proves that it can strike with precision far behind enemy lines, this capacity is of a strategic nature (fixed target of value whose coordinates are known (intelligence...)), it is old but it is not that which will replace the air support that troops engaged on the ground might want.

When we see the use that Russia makes of these missiles and we see its doubtful precision, its effect is null, it is almost only mediatic and psychological, in fact you take away these things from the Russians tomorrow, what would we talk about to evoke their actions in Ukraine? The seizure of two blocks of flats in Bakhmut? The Kremlin is forced to continue its Iranian missile and drone strikes to give this image where it is the one with the sword in its hand and it is the one who gives the blows, except that as I said, it does not bring anything and that is the whole problem.

In the meantime, the Ukrainians are gradually transforming, they are becoming westernised. It's not just a question of having an American armoured vehicle instead of a Soviet one, it's a question of global approach, methods and tactics. Intelligence is massive and let's not underestimate it. The F-16 is not just a plane that will replace a Mig-29, it is to provide the Ukrainians with an air platform allowing them to obtain Western-style air support, i.e. the ability to provide troops in contact with a precision strike via a target designation (laser essentially).

NATO has long relied on its air superiority and if Russia (the USSR yesterday) has invested massively in ground-air defence, it is also and above all because it knew it was outdated and could not compete with its own air force (thus a de facto abandonment of a desire to dominate the skies in order to seek to reduce the domination of the other). NATO has an enormous air potential with very large stocks of ammunition that will relieve precision ground-to-ground artillery (or not) that might be under some strain or even relieve ground-to-air defence. The whole question is to measure the volume of aircraft to come. The modified Mig-29s already provide a first JDAM/Storm Shadow capability that will be perceptible in the next offensive, but the F-16 will make this a longer-term and more important capability.
 
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Su-35/30SM can fly higher and faster than F-16. They have got much bigger and powerful radar mounted on a gimbal/swashplate which gives 'em flexibility and cranking ability in a BVR fight. They also have got integrated IRST.

While AIM-120D outclasses R-77-1, as per reports R-77M with dual-pulse rocket motor and AESA seeker has entered full-rate production last year. Very soon Su-35/30SM2 will have it. And with that F-16s would be swatted from far away.

In WVR, Su-35S/30SM2 hump any NATO fighter, period.
 
It is one thing for Russia to understand the interest of having precision munitions, the interest of having multi-role aircraft, but doing so is another. It is not important to show that they can make guided bombs, the important thing is not to show that we are technologically up to it, but to change our aviation. Russia has not done so, for financial reasons, but also undoubtedly out of habit and the need to have old mass that it cannot replace with new mass. But what's the point of having mass if it turns out to be useless and restrictive in the end? Why buy Su-34s if in the end you are going to make them do the same thing as their predecessor? Don't be surprised by the losses.

If the Russian air force were 500 F-16s, even old ones, with all the environment that can be found around these aircraft (ammunition, support...), in short on a Western model, with ground teams, thus de facto good communication/coordination in operations, the face of this war would be quite different. The Russian air force would be much more active, more efficient and would be the heart of the challenge for the Ukrainians. But this is not the case, we know that Russia will not transform its army in this war, it will probably do it after many years, but not now. We won't see anything more, nothing innovative on the Russian side that we haven't already seen, we can even see a qualitative regression in its attempt to bring quantity (that it cannot massively produce) to the front. The Ukrainians are gradually achieving a qualitative leap that is constantly pushing the Russians to review their methods and organisation and is bringing constraints for which they are not prepared.
 
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Didn't know 80,000 soldiers will give you 100,000 dead. :ROFLMAO:

Let's do the math, shall we? The Russians entered the war with 180k troops, and amost twice more than those were casualties well before the fall offensive. So the Russians held the line with about -100,000 soldiers. Somehow the Russians managed to do it. Then came the mobilisation with 300,000 troops, Wagner brought 50000. Then Soledar I believe took out 50000, so the Russians dropped to 300k, and now 100k are apparently dead and probably 3x are wounded, so that's taken out 400k troops out of the 300k. So currently Russia is fighting with a grand total of -100k troops. Yup, makes sense.
Russia has told nothing but lies about numbers. More like 1m were mobilised.
But what I've understood is the West ensures the number of Ukrainian dead are matched with Russian dead in terms of narrative.

Something to think about, the Russians do not post their killings of Ukr soldiers, but the opposite happens in full gusto.
Yeah, because they have evidence of their killings. Russians number are just pie in the sky with no proof, as per the Kinzhal attack.
There is a reason why the Russians have not been broadcasting the kills they make, I wonder if you can figure that out yourself.

Maybe after the war is over.
Posting satellite images of the patriots they allegedly destroyed wouldn't breach OpSec. That might be a reason, except they do post killings, at least of Ukrainian soldiers, civilians not so much.
 
You don't know how currency works.

And yes, they rip off massively. They have sold to India at 200-400% markup, still cheaper than Western options. The Su-30MKI is effectively at 300% markup, but we are not complaining.

Guess what? Their prices haven't changed. I've already mentioned this many times years before the war even began.

A Su-30SM is 1200 million rubles, which is equal to $15M in today's exchange rate. The Su-57 costs twice that, so 2600M rubles, or $32.5M. Actual costs. The Yasen class costs 50B rubles each, that's $625M. Peanuts. I wouldn't mind getting ripped off paying 300% markup for the Yasen class.

When an SSN costs $625M, then a Kinzhal will barely even cost $1M. And no, converting the Iskander into a two-stage system won't multiply the cost by 3 times.
You don't know how anything works. A 4.3t two-piece aero-ballistic missile with a radar guided MaRV does not cost only $1m in any version of reality.
So what? They have more than they need anyway.
Not given their crash rate. They only have 387 operation-ready fighters total.
Lol. Let's just say the people in the West have no idea or are simply in denial about everything.
Let's just say the 1.9% of the electorate voting for a far right party makes you a Nazi country in the eyes of Indians like you and jetray. So by that measure India must be a country of Islamic extremists.
Many of them are allies.
Even more of them are not. Russia backed Gaddafi all those years, and Assad, who were both hated by many of their people. Afghans are no fans of Russians either.
Russia won't have to "sponsor" terrorism. Just like China. They will provide logistics, not the planning, decision-making or the intelligence.
They do that already, so no change.
"Ey, this man wanted a Javelin, I sold him a Javelin. Who knew he wanted to fire it on a bus full of people in Warsaw? He said he was gonna fight in Yemen. Once the weapon leaves my hands, it's no longer in my hands, kapice?" Yeah, good luck arguing against that.
Or maybe it ends up in a bus in Moscow. You must be a goldfish:


Like I said, arming terrorists is a bad idea for Moscow given how many hornet's nests Wagner have stirred up
Have you conisdered there are enough people in Europe who can make homemade bombs?
I made one when I was 12, big deal.
In any case, the the post-war situation will tell us of the aftereffects in Europe, if any. At least we know for certain there's gonna be a new arms race in Europe, what with the cheap cost of Russian weapons. There's one already brewing between US, China and India already.
Probably not cheap as you think.

Been very quiet in Europe lately too. Not so much in Russia. It seems that terrorism in Europe is inversely proportional to how many weapons and munitions the Russian army is using. :unsure:
 
The Patriot is erected as a symbol of Western military and technological power by the Russians, whose destruction would indicate a vulnerability that would be reassuring for them.

Destroying Western equipment becomes a kind of feat that will reassure them that they can win against the West, that the fight is not futile or unbalanced.

Putin himself has declared that the Patriot will be destroyed as soon as it is in Ukraine. De facto he has made it a priority military objective, a symbol of the credibility of his words. This is 100% propaganda which has as a conclusion, "Putin does what he says".

But the lack of visible results from the Russians is upsetting some people, so they seek to reassure themselves that Ukraine is lying, that it is hiding, or that it will soon have no more missiles.

The Russians have been putting the squeeze on Kiev lately for a symbolic victory over the Patriot and I'm not sure that the cost/result ratio is favourable to them.

Another element is that the Russians are also trying to maintain pressure on the eve of a counter-offensive that they have no control over. By playing on its missile strikes or on the destruction of a Patriot, they give themselves their own objectives diverting the gaze from a situation that turns more and more to the initiative of the Ukrainians.
Yep, it's all about selling the war to Russians. Look we destroyed a patriot battery, except you can't look because we have no satellite imagery, or rather it's 'classified'. Yeah, because providing a Google Earth quality image will give away valuable information that nobody knows right? :rolleyes:

The other sell is, "hey look, we captured a pile of rubble where a large town once existed." We lost nearly 1.6x the peacetime population of the town while doing so, but hey it's still a win right? :unsure:
 
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The F-16s will not fly over and bomb Russia's territory, they will remain in the contact zone and will be equipped with ammunition to strike far. When we see the Ukrainians flying old aircraft that are often more exposed than F-16s, especially since many of the Ukrainian planes lost were on the ground.

As we can see, the Russians certainly have a big intelligence deficit and are unable to fly over Ukrainian territory with their own aircraft. Even worse, when we start to see that the Russians are increasingly forced to restrict themselves to their own territory.

At first it was the runways in the war zone (Crimea etc...) that were being hit so hard that the Russians had to move the aircraft. Then some bases near Ukraine were hit by drones, including in Belarus. Recently, two planes and two helicopters were shot down in Russian territory during a bombing mission.

On the Ukrainian side, important intelligence is given to the Russians, which gradually leads them to move away from their air force, if not to do without it. Intelligence and means that target the Russian ground-air defence (anti-radar missile for example) to move it away from the front or destroy it. We see the Ukrainians advancing their own ground-to-air means from the front and I think that we will see the arrival of means (drones) to saturate the Russian means and make them fire a maximum of missiles.

The arrival of the F-16s is part of this dynamic. This conflict reveals more and more the need to obtain the means to strike far with precision. The concept of proximity air support (helicopters) or old-fashioned bombing (smooth bombs, rockets or even a cannon pass) shows its inadequacy in such a conflict. The weapons that make the difference and that are sought after by both sides are these precision weapons, whether in the form of a missile, a guided bomb/rocket or drones, this conflict shows the interest of all this.

In the West, we have long been developing an aviation system where guided bombs have become the norm, to the point where the number of bombs that are counted in an inventory no longer takes into account the smooth bombs, let alone the baskets of rockets. Many people thought and continue to think that this would be too costly a choice and that we should take inspiration from countries like Russia, which would choose to have inexpensive simplicity (smooth bombs etc.) that would achieve the same result in numbers.

But no, it is not a choice, it is a natural evolution of a need that Russia has never fully met, continuing with its old model and finding itself today with hundreds of useless aircraft because it has neither the guided bombs in inventory, nor the doctrine of use, nor its full integration with ground units. It is not the Russian capacity to strike far with missiles that proves that it can strike with precision far behind enemy lines, this capacity is of a strategic nature (fixed target of value whose coordinates are known (intelligence...)), it is old but it is not that which will replace the air support that troops engaged on the ground might want.

When we see the use that Russia makes of these missiles and we see its doubtful precision, its effect is null, it is almost only mediatic and psychological, in fact you take away these things from the Russians tomorrow, what would we talk about to evoke their actions in Ukraine? The seizure of two blocks of flats in Bakhmut? The Kremlin is forced to continue its Iranian missile and drone strikes to give this image where it is the one with the sword in its hand and it is the one who gives the blows, except that as I said, it does not bring anything and that is the whole problem.

In the meantime, the Ukrainians are gradually transforming, they are becoming westernised. It's not just a question of having an American armoured vehicle instead of a Soviet one, it's a question of global approach, methods and tactics. Intelligence is massive and let's not underestimate it. The F-16 is not just a plane that will replace a Mig-29, it is to provide the Ukrainians with an air platform allowing them to obtain Western-style air support, i.e. the ability to provide troops in contact with a precision strike via a target designation (laser essentially).

NATO has long relied on its air superiority and if Russia (the USSR yesterday) has invested massively in ground-air defence, it is also and above all because it knew it was outdated and could not compete with its own air force (thus a de facto abandonment of a desire to dominate the skies in order to seek to reduce the domination of the other). NATO has an enormous air potential with very large stocks of ammunition that will relieve precision ground-to-ground artillery (or not) that might be under some strain or even relieve ground-to-air defence. The whole question is to measure the volume of aircraft to come. The modified Mig-29s already provide a first JDAM/Storm Shadow capability that will be perceptible in the next offensive, but the F-16 will make this a longer-term and more important capability.

Yes, the F-16s won't fly over Russia, it will come at the cost of Western support in this area. But the F-16s will have a deterrent effect in protecting their own HQs by being able to threaten Russian HQs within the warzone. It can definitely provide close air support, but that will come at the cost of forcing the Russians to bring their IADS closer to the front.

I don't know how bad Russia's air intelligence capabilities are. Their AWACS are definitely old. Do they have enough satellites? Do they have access to Chinese intelligence? I have no idea. But I doubt this is the reason for the Russians not using their air force adequately. I'd actually believe they are maintaining their small numbers for a larger confrontation with NATO. A total failure doesn't make sense because even India can use its older, less sophisticated jets in a more complex ADGE than what Ukraine has, even with that NATO++ ISR (a term I coined 'cause the Russians can't degrade NATO ISR in this war).

The IAF is happy with the S-400, and this is coming from an air force that operates advanced Israeli and French radars. So at least their ground systems are up to the mark. The IAF is happy with the Bars radar even today, so we know their fighter radars are also up to the mark. AWACS and satellite surveillance, some benefit of the doubt can be given here, considering they are sure to spend a bit more in these areas than in SAMs or fighters.

Their ground surveillance systems are also pretty good. The IN has been using some of their tech for decades and the IA has always found it useful in their environment as well.

As for precision munitions, the Russians have both the traditional method of delivering bombs and a new method that was demonstrated in Syria. The traditional method has not been used much, in the numbers expected, but they have operationalised new INS-based glide bombs in the 500Kg and 1500Kg variants.

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The other one is the well known SVP-24 targeting system that gives dumb bombs an accuracy of 30m, which is pretty good. But the problem is it's equipped on the Su-24 and is not good enough to penetrate Ukr IADS. Whereas the Russians seem to be protecting the Su-34s, and are instead now firing away these new glide bombs from safe locations. It's even equipped on the Su-35. These new bombs were used to force the UAF to retreat from their last stronghold in Bakhmut. They have been used in many locations since April.



As the number indicates, the Russians have practically unlimited stocks of these bombs. It should be enough to rival NATO's stocks, not counting their regular stock of PGMs that they have largely kept locked up, the KAB family.

Trying to keep the war as cheap as possible shouldn't be considered a weakness. And 15-20 a day isn't impressive when they can do 150-200 a day.

Also, all this talk of fighter jets is meant to distract the Western populace from the real pressing problems Ukraine is facing. Ukraine will never get the numbers necessary nor enough pilots nor munitions that will actually change the tactical situation for them. This should have been done 5 years ago. They don't need jets, they need artillery. There's something in what Prigozhin said about it. He pointed out that if he fired 6000 shells a day, he would receive 60 casualties whereas the Ukr will face 500. But if that drops down to 3000, then he will receive 540 casualties to Ukr's 500.

So, unless the F-16s come in very large numbers, and with NATO-level pilots and maintenance crew, these jets will not be very useful against the more seasoned Russian pilots and IADS. To top that off, the Russians can produce 50+ Flankers a year already, so any losses will be easily replaceable in a short time.

It's also unclear when these jets will come in. I doubt it will be available in time for the spring offensive.
 
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The Patriot is erected as a symbol of Western military and technological power by the Russians, whose destruction would indicate a vulnerability that would be reassuring for them.

Destroying Western equipment becomes a kind of feat that will reassure them that they can win against the West, that the fight is not futile or unbalanced.

Putin himself has declared that the Patriot will be destroyed as soon as it is in Ukraine. De facto he has made it a priority military objective, a symbol of the credibility of his words. This is 100% propaganda which has as a conclusion, "Putin does what he says".

But the lack of visible results from the Russians is upsetting some people, so they seek to reassure themselves that Ukraine is lying, that it is hiding, or that it will soon have no more missiles.

The Russians have been putting the squeeze on Kiev lately for a symbolic victory over the Patriot and I'm not sure that the cost/result ratio is favourable to them.

Another element is that the Russians are also trying to maintain pressure on the eve of a counter-offensive that they have no control over. By playing on its missile strikes or on the destruction of a Patriot, they give themselves their own objectives diverting the gaze from a situation that turns more and more to the initiative of the Ukrainians.

It's a good distraction for people on both sides, takes away the focus from the ground war.

The Patriots reacted to a Russian attack with 30 or so missiles. But what if Russia had also attacked with 30 missiles? It's just a battle of egos.
 
You don't know how anything works. A 4.3t two-piece aero-ballistic missile with a radar guided MaRV does not cost only $1m in any version of reality.

A similar Indian system is $700k.

Even more of them are not. Russia backed Gaddafi all those years, and Assad, who were both hated by many of their people. Afghans are no fans of Russians either.

Lol. What's all that got to do with the point I'm making?

Or maybe it ends up in a bus in Moscow. You must be a goldfish:


Like I said, arming terrorists is a bad idea for Moscow given how many hornet's nests Wagner have stirred up

Russia has been dealing with terrorism for decades now.

I made one when I was 12, big deal.

Good. Now there will be people who will use it.

Probably not cheap as you think.

Depends on how much you can afford and what you are willing to sacrifice for it. Will you allow the British defence budget to eat into the NHS's budget?
 
west - sour grapes ( aka ..we lost ) , we are crying hoarse now.

And when that offensive occurs, one of the interesting features is where does it occur…. Wherever they look now, they are looking at quite well-defended Russian positions, and in some places they would be fighting for territory that belongs to Ukraine but where the people who are there now are either ambivalent or want to be Russian.

Ukraine basically wants to launch an offensive into a territory to "liberate" people who don't want any Ukrainians around. :LOL:

And guess what? To impose their ideology, culture and language on people who the Ukrainians already consider as foreigners. :ROFLMAO:

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There must be something to this if Europe is all for it today.
 
west - sour grapes ( aka ..we lost ) , we are crying hoarse now.
Yes, Russia despite not hitting Ukraine with their full might has taken half of their land and yet some of these Europeans don't see this as Russia's success, lol.

Damn, looks like US/UK/NATO is indeed going to fight Russia until the last Ukrainian. After this war, I doubt if Ukraine even exists. Just pathetic approach by NATO.
 
It is one thing for Russia to understand the interest of having precision munitions, the interest of having multi-role aircraft, but doing so is another. It is not important to show that they can make guided bombs, the important thing is not to show that we are technologically up to it, but to change our aviation. Russia has not done so, for financial reasons, but also undoubtedly out of habit and the need to have old mass that it cannot replace with new mass. But what's the point of having mass if it turns out to be useless and restrictive in the end? Why buy Su-34s if in the end you are going to make them do the same thing as their predecessor? Don't be surprised by the losses.

If the Russian air force were 500 F-16s, even old ones, with all the environment that can be found around these aircraft (ammunition, support...), in short on a Western model, with ground teams, thus de facto good communication/coordination in operations, the face of this war would be quite different. The Russian air force would be much more active, more efficient and would be the heart of the challenge for the Ukrainians. But this is not the case, we know that Russia will not transform its army in this war, it will probably do it after many years, but not now. We won't see anything more, nothing innovative on the Russian side that we haven't already seen, we can even see a qualitative regression in its attempt to bring quantity (that it cannot massively produce) to the front. The Ukrainians are gradually achieving a qualitative leap that is constantly pushing the Russians to review their methods and organisation and is bringing constraints for which they are not prepared.
In China, we believe that the biggest problem with the VVS is its low attendance rate, It is insufficient to provide sufficient support for ground operations.
Secondly, Russia lacks sufficient reconnaissance and early warning capabilities, and its targets are either outdated or false. At the same time, it is also unable to strike the Ukrainian air defense system in a timely manner, and there is no timely evaluation of the effectiveness of the strike after completion.
Finally, the use of precision guided bombs is low, Low technical level