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The issue isn't urbanization in Malappuram or Kerala , The issue is Malappuram rapidly turning into an exclusive enclave for Muslims. Since you've a yen for statistics, kindly pull out figures for what was the religious demographic profile for Malappuram since 1951 till 2011.Youd get your answer.
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Answered that one in my previous post.
Fair enough. Though I'd take this one with a pinch of salt. If there's more on this, you'd hear from me.
Refute it. Or accept it in case you don't have better sources. I didn't criticize your sources, did I?
Any source?
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I mean, seriously this article defines 'dung-headness' as we know it.
The NFHS-4 data for 2015-16 for Kerala shows that TFR for Hindus and Muslims were reduced to 1.42 and 1.86 respectively, which means that the Muslim TFR is only 35 per cent higher than that of Hindus.
Now how does one resolve what this data shows while all other factors related to demography during the same period completely contradict these figures?
For instance, the number of births by Muslim women and Hindu women for the year 2016 were 21,1182 and 20,7831 respectively, which indicates that despite their population being almost half of the Hindu women, Muslim women gave birth to more children.
In other words, on an average, there were 100 per cent more births from Muslim women than their Hindu counterpart.
Where does the TFR or data on percentage of muslim population say anything about the age profile of that population ?
Have this genius comprehended the definition of TFR ? He himself have quoted the same in his article.
Similarly, if we look at the voter list, we find that the percentage increase in the number of voters between 2014 and 2019 is more than 100 per cent higher in the Muslim-dominated parliamentary constituency (Malappuram) than the parliamentary constituency with least Muslims (Thiruvananthapuram).
Never knew that TFR in 2015-16 would change the population reaching voting age in 2014-19.
And this is from a 'saner' RW media outlet. Okay.
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The author clearly alluded to the fact that TFR captures data of women between 15-45 years of age. It's in the article.
Similarly, if we look at the voter list, we find that the percentage increase in the number of voters between 2014 and 2019 is more than 100 per cent higher in the Muslim-dominated parliamentary constituency (Malappuram) than the parliamentary constituency with least Muslims (Thiruvananthapuram).
Never knew that TFR in 2015-16 would change the population reaching voting age in 2014-19.
And this is from a 'saner' RW media outlet. Okay.
Silly rant. The skewing of religious demographics in Kerala didn't begin in 2011 , did it? Unless that's your contention.
And Kerala is one of those states with low occurance of child marriage, isn't it ?And you know in which states they are high, don't you?
Not to mention that Kerala have far more reliable statistical data given almost 100% institutional delivery & birth registration.
The higher number of Muslims births percentage-wise is due to the far younger population. Which is a result of higher TFR in the past.
The point is he is using the increase in number of voters in 2014-19 as a proof for proving TFR data of 2015-16 being wrong. Which is exceptionally dumb, even for Opindia standards.
Also, Muslims in Kerala too have brought down their TFR to below replacement levels. Given the trends, it will only go down. What more do you want them to do ?
There are 100% 'viraat hindu' districts in this country where TFR is 3.5. Even upto 5. In the most backward parts of the country which are subsidized by others. No concern there ?
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Well, it was you who pulled up Opindia link about Malappuram to prove something.
The TFR of Malappuram or Keralite Muslims are far below national average. I have already discussed this.
Should we have quotas now to regulate how many kids a particular community should produce in an year or something ?
Well in that case, let's start with the BIMARUs.
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Basically what you have is a nincompoop who have no clue about how population growth work writing an article.
Also note how he claims Muslims in Kerala have high number of women giving birth below 15 & above 45. Any comparison with other states or data given ? No.
Well, what else to expect from Swarajya ?
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No need to have quotes , population control bill will come soon. And if u wish to become minority in your state ,then have it.And Kerala is one of those states with low occurance of child marriage, isn't it ?And you know in which states they are high, don't you?
Not to mention that Kerala have far more reliable statistical data given almost 100% institutional delivery & birth registration.
The higher number of Muslims births percentage-wise is due to the far younger population. Which is a result of higher TFR in the past.
The point is Muslims in Kerala too have brought down their TFR to below replacement levels. Given the trends, it will only go down. What more do you want them to do ?
There are 100% 'viraat hindu' districts in this country where TFR is 3.5. Even upto 5. No concern there ?
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Well, it was you who pulled up Opindia link about Malappuram to prove something.
The TFR of Malappuram or Keralite Muslims are far below national average. I have already discussed this.
Should we have quotas now to regulate how many kids a particular community should produce in an year or something ?
And in many places vegetarianism is government sponsored/enforced.
But yeah not in Kerala so no need to get concerned.
Reposting the link to the article. Perhaps given your inherent bias, you were disinclined to read it. Jump to the part - Problems in TFR calculations.
Population Control: Kerala Numbers Show Why Official Definition Of TFR Will Not Work In India
The point is that these Muslims are now the feeder base for a Wahabbi version of Islam - the kind which the SDPI / PFI has been propagating and which has been making rapid progress of late in Kerala.
How many of them have indulged in Love Jihad of the kind the Syro Malabar church has alleged?
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Doesn't draw any link to the purported Halal project. But I'd take your word for it.
The issue is the falling TFR rate of the Hindus & Christians vis a vis the Muslims in Kerala. You think it's a laughing matter? Good for you. Out in Mangalore, a great deal of Moplahs have made the Bunder area their own. After stamping their majority in Kasargode which wouldn't have been the case if Kasargode was retained with Karnataka where the percentage of Kannada / Tulu speakers were in a majority as compared to the Malayali speakers. But that wasn't to be. Result, the Hindus & the Christians there being rapidly turned into a minority are moving out. And now you've nascent demands for a Moplastan. It's telling you didn't reply to #150 & #154 in this same thread. Why? Coz it'd disturb the" all eej well " narrative you're trying so well to construct.Well, it was you who pulled up Opindia link about Malappuram to prove something.
The TFR of Malappuram or Keralite Muslims are far below national average. I have already discussed this.
Should we have quotas now to regulate how many kids a particular community should produce in an year or something ?
I want you to refute your claims with genuine facts not innuendoes. I thought I was dealing with Amal not GND.
It's a toss up between that or you chanting La Ilaha.. You get to decide.
What makes you think I'm concerned. Does it look like I support the narrative that vegetarianism ought to be promoted?
That's more than enough I guess. But I wonder why they come to Commie-Jihadi-Ricebag infested Kerala for work though.
A lot of Malayalis including quite a few from here are residents of Bangalore. Does your disqualification not apply to them?
You does seem to be concerned with religious supremacism only when it's about a certain religion. That's why.
Well BIMARUs are here already. It's not like a choice.
That said, they seem to be integrating well, many speaks chaste Malayalam too. It's inevitable anyway.
Don't see them having problem with Kannadigas. And I am yet to see any Malayali demonize anyone like how a RW NI would demonize a Malayali.
Whether they can find Kerala on a map is a different discussion.
It's a 10 year old report by youth league (IUML) which generated lot of controversy back then. Never heard them demanding anything like that later.
It would have been no laughing matter if TFR of Muslims in Kerala didn't drop from 2.1 in 2011 to 1.8 in 2015-16. But that's not the case, is it ?
Their population too will stabilize.
You're damned right I'm concerned about religious supremacy of those religions which proclaim they've a monopoly over salvation & other paths are roads to damnation.
More then NI, you seem to host WB Muslims & the best part - Bangladeshi Muslims. They seem to be integrating rather well too.
So, when attention is drawn to migration is a two way process, you turn to Ajit Doval's Defensive Offense.
And it'd gather more traction as time goes by. I've no doubt about it. But from whatever little I gather non Muslims in Kerala are very sanguine. Perhaps they know better.
Well, whether they stabilize or not by 2041 , Kerala will officially see the Hindus at 35% or less, down from nearly 70% in 1951.That's a huge achievement.