Chinese Wuhan Virus Thread


So the baseline scenario is 300 million infections and 1-2.5 million dead.

Best case is 100-200 million infected and considerably less than 1 million dead.

Worst case, he didn't bother to mention at all. Just said it's worse than baseline.

If China is telling the truth about their numbers, then what they did is really impressive. Or else, they have people dying left, right and centre and are not telling us.
 
So the baseline scenario is 300 million infections and 1-2.5 million dead.

Best case is 100-200 million infected and considerably less than 1 million dead.

Worst case, he didn't bother to mention at all. Just said it's worse than baseline.

If China is telling the truth about their numbers, then what they did is really impressive. Or else, they have people dying left, right and centre and are not telling us.
Also, Iran, everyday only a hundred odd people are declared dead... what are the mullahs afraid of ?
 
What's that fellow calculating?

At 1.5% people dying out of infected (in initial state) it will be around 5 lac deaths for 33 million infections, if everything functions as it is today with just few thousand cases.

Initial statics hide the pressure on healthcare system, that once the beds and ventilators are occupied you will die no matter what and with 5lac deaths in your calculation if you think you need to see psychiatrist well good luck, see you in a month.
 

The Italians reacted very late to the virus.


What's wrong here is his math and timing. Out of 24000 active cases in the US, only 170 have recovered. So it's only the beginning. He has to give it a week or two more and then he will know a bit more about the numbers.


Agree with that.
 
At 1.5% people dying out of infected (in initial state) it will be around 5 lac deaths for 33 million infections, if everything functions as it is today with just few thousand cases.

Not just that, add the variable death rate too. Because it's not going to remain constant. In Italy it has increased.

The fatality rate for SARS-Cov 2 has been calculated to 4.13 % as of 20th March 2020. This is serious! This can't be left without a proper vaccination.
Spanish flu which killed 17 million, in two years had fatality rate of close to 3%. That time the medication was still developing.

This noval virus if continues to two years will create catastrophe.
 
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Not just that, add the variable death rate too. Because it's not going to remain constant. In Italy it has increased.

The fatality rate for SARS-Cov 2 has been calculated to 4.13 % as of 20th March 2020. This is serious! This can't be left without a proper vaccination.
Spanish flu which killed 17 million, in two years had fatality rate of close to 3%. That time the medication was still developing.

This noval virus if continues to two years will create catastrophe.
2 years ?? If it continues for 3 months at this rate, there will be 10 million new patients every day!! It took just 20 days to grow from 2k to 30k.
 
800 dead today in Italy, we are on exact same path only that we will be seeing deaths in millions.
The fatality rate for SARS-Cov 2 has been calculated to 4.13 % as of 20th March 2020. This is serious! This can't be left without a proper vaccination.
There are massive amount of folks whom we don't know if they had covid-19. Hence, fatality rate right now is overestimated.
 
You mean underestimated?
No. Overestimated.
Fatality = Dead / Infected.

If the number of infected who didn't show severe symptoms and remain undocumented is massive --as it is right now-- you overestimate fatality.

This happened in Korea, this happened in Japan, and in Italy.

Most experts believe that number of infected are underestimated in developed countries --lets not even talk about India.

I am also seeing it happen in Canada first hand. I know 20 folks who have bad flu symptoms, dry cough and they were denied tests. Fortunately most are stable.
 
1.5% of 33 million is around 1/2 million people.
if this is the level of math for educated Americans, we really need to be afraid, very afraid.


oh wait...just looked at the twitter handle...the guy is a trump supporter.....that explains it...probably doesn’t believe in evolution or climate change either..lol...
 
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Community spread has started.

We need to lock down nation for a month or two. Including all small clinics.

Only hospital s with strict Protective measures need to operate.

Hope they do it before we suffer and still go with lock down later..

many scan centres have closed in my district.

People recovered announced in news agency is not promising.. Leave Chinese statistics.

Every day close to 40 - 50 000 people are infected world wide.

I dare say whole world needs some lock down. Today's count 3,00,000 people are infected.
 
No. Overestimated.
Fatality = Dead / Infected.

If the number of infected who didn't show severe symptoms and remain undocumented is massive --as it is right now-- you overestimate fatality.

This happened in Korea, this happened in Japan, and in Italy.

Most experts believe that number of infected are underestimated in developed countries --lets not even talk about India.

I am also seeing it happen in Canada first hand. I know 20 folks who have bad flu symptoms, dry cough and they were denied tests. Fortunately most are stable.
And how you know everyone infected will be cured if I go by your logic?

For real time events the calculations are done as per available facts not assumptions. As in your case if everyone infected starts dying we are grossly underestimating fatality rate, so available data is used for approx estimates.
 
Let's wait & watch. If the disease claims millions in both the citizenry & the clergy, I doubt the murderous mobs will be assuaged without blood of the mullahcracy being spilt.
You beleive commies ? Kerals CM did a PR stunt. He doesnt have any money
 
And how you know everyone infected will be cured if I go by your logic?

For real time events the calculations are done as per available facts not assumptions. As in your case if everyone infected starts dying we are grossly underestimating fatality rate, so available data is used for approx estimates.
Actually you don't need to know how many will get cured before hand. Not at all. You cann't know it.

Whenever you calculate currently (what you call "real time"), you will always overestimate the fatality rate because of three` simple reasons :-

1. Deaths due to Covid in --industrialized countries atleast-- will HIGHLY LIKELY to be reported. Why? Simply because death is permanent unlike sickness which goes away. Those who are really really sick (and hence they end up dead) will get tested surely --atleast in countries like Italy, Japan, Korea-- and their deaths will be correctly attributed to coronavirus. Net result, your death data attributed to coronavirus will be pretty bang on.

2. Those who are mildly/moderately sick are being less likely to be tested, EVEN in countries like Japan, Korea, Italy, Canada. Simply because most of these places even now is rationing medical resources to vulnerables and badly sick people as these resources --testing kits, medical personnels time etc. Those who are/were mildly/moderately sick will get symptomatic medicines and are very likely to get well before they are even tested, if tested at all. Meaning, your number of people who are infected are LIKELY to be underestimated.

3. Vast majority of people who got coronavirus develop mild and moderate symptoms(WHO confirmed this). So, again as a corrolary of (2), you are vastly underestimating the number of infected folks.

Hence, your fatality rate, dead(bang on)/infected(underestimated) will be an OVERESTIMATION of reality.

Now once this disease is over and people will do deeper analysis of covid and find more accurate estimates of infection numbers, we will actually know the real fatality rate. Currently the fatality rates estimations are very much likely to overestimate the actual rates.
 
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