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LOL, Indians of convenience or necessity, sure.

Hardly in the first two cases.

Me and Kalki were born here.

Whether it was convenient or not to our parents did not matter. We were born here.

And guess what.

We both live here.

We both work here.

We both vote.

And we both will be directly impacted by the elections and the people in power. And those that follow in their shade.

Cheers, Doc
 
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It is immaterial who is Indian and who is not, only the ideas should be debated on any forum.

James Corden, Trevor Noah, John Oliver, all not american, yet discuss issues on late night shows. How does it matter?

If someone loves and cares about India's interests, I don't question their Indianness. This is an issue which Doc has created here today - and I've put up with enough anti-NRI nonsense where we get shafted from both sides whether we care about India or don't care about India, to keep putting up with it.
 
If someone loves and cares about India's interests, I don't question their Indianness. This is an issue which Doc has created here today - and I've put up with enough anti-NRI nonsense where we get shafted from both sides whether we care about India or don't care about India, to keep putting up with it.

P.S. About the fire temple bit, without going into Hindu temples which also do not allow entry to non Hindus, I will explain this.

There is a hugely elaborate process that is gone through (months, even years) to consecrate an atash (holy fire) before a new fire temple is set up.

The fire itself is derived in a hugely complicate way (it contains many elements of different naturally occurring and man made fires - including lightning, volcano, etc.)

The energies inside a fire temple would be destroyed in the presence of one not belonging to the ancestral faith. The center of the fire temple, just above the Afarganyu and the holy atash, is a direct portal that taps directly into the divine celestial energy. Energy that is coursing through each Zoroastrian. That portal is cleansed every day by ritual prayer. And the burning of sandalwood.

That is the reason non Zoroastrians are not allowed inside. Not because we consider you inferior or dirty or of impure blood.

This is a concept new age Hinduism has lost from its Vedic times. Zoroastrianism still maintains it strictly.

Cheers, Doc
 
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P.S. About the fire temple bit, without going into Hindu temples which also do not allow entry to non Hindus, I will explain this.

There is a hugely elaborate process that is gone through (months, even years) to consecrate an atash (holy fire) before a new fire temple is set up.

The fire itself is derived in a hugely complicate way (it contains many elements of different naturally occurring and man made fires - including lightning, volcano, etc.)

The energies inside a fire temple would be destroyed in the presence of one not belonging to the ancestral faith. That is the reason non Zoroastrians are not allowed inside. Not because we consider you inferior or dirty or of impure blood.

Cheers, Doc
And that's why Zoroastrians marrying outside the community are ostracized as well . To think the Zoroastrians labelled the Vedic Devas as demons and revered Ahura Mazda only to preserve what's left of their religion in the land which reveres Devas , granting the exiles from their land - the Zoroastrians , the freedom to practise their religion and prevent entry to the natives and we're pilloried for not being liberal enough .

Frankly ,I don't know who's the bawa out here . You or us ??
 
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If someone loves and cares about India's interests, I don't question their Indianness. This is an issue which Doc has created here today - and I've put up with enough anti-NRI nonsense where we get shafted from both sides whether we care about India or don't care about India, to keep putting up with it.

I can make that easy for you....please don't care for India....
 
It is immaterial who is Indian and who is not, only the ideas should be debated on any forum.

James Corden, Trevor Noah, John Oliver, all not american, yet discuss issues on late night shows. How does it matter?

but they LIVE in the USA. So they know the consequences of their points will defeinitely affect their lives. You think Arnab Goswami can say anythig about america and anyone will pay two hoots for him over there?
 
Big big self goal ....

Cheers, Doc

Nope, not at all. If you think a PIO making legal campaign donations, is the same thing as foreign vested interests trying to direct India towards a path of doom through useful idiots like GND, then you're either terribly mistaken or terribly dishonest. Decide which one is more accurate.
 
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Nope, not at all. If you think a PIO making legal campaign donations, is the same thing as foreign vested interests trying to direct India towards a path of doom through useful idiots like GND, then you're either terribly mistaken or terribly dishonest. Decide which one is more accurate.

Its not much different at all.

Both of you are ex India interests.

You have a blood link. So you are more credible. And politically acceptable.

Which is why Modi panders to you openly. While the same is done guardedly with non PIO interests and fund sources.

Cheers, Doc
 
lol. This is why I say the NRI shouldn't be allowed to have a word in Indian affairs. He thinks he is like the rich relative of yesteryears where he walks in with maal and advises people on how to do things, in case you missed it.

a) your effect trhough cash is ZIIILLLLCHHH. Any idea how much money the likes of ambani, adani and tatas give away every election? Your 'cash' is the chicken change of beggars in comparison to that.
b) I come from a family one of whose members was approached by BJP to become a state head- tere jaise do take ke khandaan ko ukhaad ke kya dikhaoon?
b) The only vlue you have is nuisance - typing away your stupid support long after the rest conclude a party is lame. Basically 'hot air' value.

a) Who says my money is going against theirs? It's all pooled together towards the same goal buddy. You're the one who ought to be worried.
b) LOOOOOOL, anyone can become a state head of BJP in Kerala, and please don't switch your state of origin/residence and magically become a Tamil Chola again.

c (it's c after b by the way, not b again lmao) - Your entire family is literally irrelevant in politics when stacked against the sheer amount of money I contribute by myself, I'm not even bringing my family into this. Your entire lives are little but nuisance value for us, keep barking.
 
Its not much different at all.

Both of you are ex India interests.

You have a blood link. So you are more credible. And politically acceptable.

Which is why Modi panders to you openly. While the same is done guardedly with non PIO interests and fund sources.

Cheers, Doc

It's actually incredibly different; but I don't expect someone blinded by political biases to understand. Frankly Doc, you're a man who claimed to be against massive incompetence, corruption and anti-Indian stances and in the same breath, on the same thread voiced full support to Congress and Rahul Gandhi. You wanna talk about self goals, that's a self goal.

And your buddy GND is busy trying to figure out which Indian state he hails from today and which letter comes after b.
 
His point is that he is a moron,,,,
Better than a descendant of rice eating converts who're up against a mirror image of their Semitic religion which is exactly what Hindutva is all about . It's one thing for Hindus to criticise Hindutva - like Tharoor did and fell between two stools of advocating tolerance for Hindus while admitting minorities had a right to practise , preach and propagate their faith and turned over to criticise Hindutva as being more similar to Semitic or Monotheistic faiths .

What amuses me is that faith as presented by VSDoc best illustrated in why Zoroastrians marrying outside the community and non Zoroastrians not allowed entry into fire temples among other examples are all articles of faith - observed since millenia and therefore considered sacrosanct , but when such similar acts are observed by Hindus are ridiculed as outdated ,regressive , etc .

This holds true especially when rice converts paste articles out here ridiculing pushpak vimanas or plastic surgeries as practised by ancient India but get mumps when asked to comment on Immaculate Conception , faith healing , theory of evolution & the original sin as per the Bible .

And we're supposed to endorse your views and way of life as paragons of virtue . Why blame you when the English media is strewn with plenty of deracinated people of our faith whose raison d'etre is to riducule and belittle Hinduism and who give you enough fodder to chew and eject thru the same cavity , in your case .
 
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a) Who says my money is going against theirs? It's all pooled together towards the same goal buddy. You're the one who ought to be worried.
b) LOOOOOOL, anyone can become a state head of BJP in Kerala, and please don't switch your state of origin/residence and magically become a Tamil Chola again.

c (it's c after b by the way, not b again lmao) - Your entire family is literally irrelevant in politics when stacked against the sheer amount of money I contribute by myself, I'm not even bringing my family into this. Your entire lives are little but nuisance value for us, keep barking.

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: HE ACTUALLY THINKS HE IS RICH!!!

'same pool'? Basically you're thorwing penny change after the money of the billionaires. How many do you think are interested in 'same pool' now? Bet your bottom dollar that most of them have already started funding the others incluing the likes of Ambani and Adani. You think they wanna see themseles behind bars if congress comes to power?

You wanna know the REAL indication that people have started abandoning modi? Amitabh Bacchan, Modi best friend, 'suddenly' began following a lot of congress leaders. When a 75 year old man has begun to make pals out of the enemy camp you know you are in biiiiig trouble

Amitabh Bachchan starts following Congress leaders on Twitter, triggers speculation

@_Anonymous_ even he is unpatriotic and unIndian.
 
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So you are more credible
I'm more credible than NGO's, and I'm also more credible than those who never truly considered themselves part of the people of this land as well. My allegiance in that part of the world is firmly with one country, unlike some others.

Modi panders to you openly.
He panders to us openly because our interests align 100% with Indian interests. Unlike NGO's, and unlike some who sit in India but don't completely consider themselves one with the native population.
 
Better than a descendant of rice eating converts who're up against a mirror image of their Semitic religion which is exactly what Hindutva is all about . It's one thing for Hindus to criticise Hindutva - like Tharoor did and fell between two stools of advocating tolerance for Hindus while admitting minorities had a right to practise , preach and propagate their faith and turned over to criticise Hindutva as being more similar to Semitic or Monotheistic faiths .

What amuses me is that faith as presented by VSDoc best illustrated in why Zoroastrians marrying outside the community and non Zoroastrians not allowed entry into fire temples among other examples are all articles of faith - observed since millenia and therefore considered sacrosanct , but when such similar acts are observed by Hindus are ridiculed as outdated ,regressive , etc .

This holds true especially when rice converts paste articles out here ridiculing pushpak vimanas or plastic surgeries as practised by ancient India but get mumps when asked to comment on Immaculate Conception , faith healing , theory of evolution & the original sin as per the Bible .

And we're supposed to endorse your views and way of life as paragons of virtue . Why blame you when the English media is strewn with plenty of deracinated people of our faith whose raison d'etre is to riducule and belittle Hinduism and who give you enough fodder to chew and eject thru the same cavity , in your case .

You typed a lot.....
 
It's actually incredibly different; but I don't expect someone blinded by political biases to understand. Frankly Doc, you're a man who claimed to be against massive incompetence, corruption and anti-Indian stances and in the same breath, on the same thread voiced full support to Congress and Rahul Gandhi. You wanna talk about self goals, that's a self goal.

And your buddy GND is busy trying to figure out which Indian state he hails from today and which letter comes after b.

Sigh.

If you think the BJP is not massively corrupt.

If you think the BJP is not hugely incompetent.

If you think the BJP is not starkly anti Indian.

Then you are more detached from India than I give you credit for.

The Congress is also corrupt. I DO NOT MIND. Why? Because they are way more competent. And they are not anywhere close to being as divisive and polarizing in their base DNA.

Right now (and always) you make the decision that is best for the nation. And the Congress never had to do anything in this term. It was the BJP all the way.

Cheers, Doc
 
What is your point?

Yes we are ancient cousins.

Yes this land belongs as much to us as it does to you.

Vedic Hindus (the settlers) came from us. We therefore do lay claim to this land.

You may agree or not. It is what it is.

Cheers, Doc

Ancient cousins - like the Pandavas & Kauravas I assume.

That's your assumption @they came from us . Remnants of a theory that's being buried ever so gradually by its strongest votaries . Not that I'm a huge subscriber to OIT , but it'd sure be fun if it's proved that the Parshuas are of Indic stock . I guess what's left of you would simply go to the dokhmas and lie down awaiting the vultures .