The Rafale was supposed to get India specific enhancements and I don't think those enhancements have been entirely completed. The IAF was actually waiting the mmrca to start but for some reason everybody is wasting their time to get the f.5
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Isn't it easier and quicker to integrate India specific enhancements and other up gradations into Russian platforms, for example Rudram 1 has been fully integrated to Su 30 MKI even drop tests were done on it?
But even today after decades integration of any Indian weapon system into Mirage 2000 will come with lots of restriction since IAF doesn't have access to Mirage 2000's mission computer. It will take another 5 years for India to integrate such systems into Rafale.
We don't need any new aircraft for Pakistan. The MKI and Rafale are enough with the current missile package that we have. Even if Pakistan gets new J-35 jets, nothing much is going to change. China will ask them to keep them inside Pakistan when they operate. We will bomb their hangar and airfield not only with fighter jets but also with G2G MBRL. We can hit all the Airfield with 300 KM MBRL. The biggest drawback of Pakistan is its shape; everything comes under the 200 km to 250 km strike range. Yes, for China, we may need to advance aircraft and a large number of aircraft.
Even then they can have a small number of J35 airborne to wreak havoc on our jets even while we destroy their airbases as during crisis their J35 will be airborne, hence we need to expedite and get Netra Mk1a and Mk2 ASAP along with mass deployment of anti stealth radar etc.
Any 4.5 gen vs any 5th gen isn't a pretty outcome. The odds are the 5th gen will get the first look and first missile fired.
Whatever they do, they will not dare to come inside Indian airspace even with J35. They will do the same thing engage staying far away from the Indian air defense. J35 will use Internal weapons bay else it will be a dead duck. So j35 won’t used for bombing. Now we stay back and destroy their every single air field from north to south. Now which runway they will use and which hanger they will use it for their aircraft’s god knows.
There's one simple fact and that is we need replacement of our old aircrafts. The rafale is the replacement for the mirage and jaguar.
The new mrfa (hopefully f-15EX) is the mig 29 replacement.
The su-30mki will be our backbone but the backbone needs to be made bigger and stronger.
The Pakistanis will operate them insider their own airspace because they can't enter our airspace. Simple as that. Our airspace is too radioactive for the PAF to enter. That's why they have invested in RA'AD,Takbir,H2/H4 sows/denel raptors so that they can strike onto our side with relative safety. The other issue is the j-35 will be a bigger problem because it will carry the pl-15 and will have an RCS lower than our Rafales and without the virupaksha the Flankers will be sitting ducks.
The j-35 will be used in a similar fashion to how the j-10 and f-16's are used. For ambush targetting in the safety of their own airspace.
The s500 is required if we want to end that safety.
What will be the aircraft procurement strategy? Numerous factors, including geopolitics and economics, will influence this. Additionally, we may decide to add new air defense and satellite monitoring systems based on how well our current air defense systems performed. Keep in mind, we are also not going to move funds from development projects since they are beneficial for large employment, and the middle class is already burdened with lots of taxes.
Regarding the S500, I am not sure how much the J35 Stealth will perform against the S400 (Chinese systems are known to be more of a propaganda). Once J35 is within range of the ground system, Rafael can track it with passive systems.
The only reliable counter to the j-35 is the MRSAM. The s500 is just another supplement for the s400 and is more for targetting missiles like df-26,DF-ZF, ababil and shaheen series.
The fog of war should be over soon and details released. Stretching it out only gives credibility to the claims.
Take it for what it's worth, but China is saying the Pak are saying there were 6 losses. The 6th being a Mirage-2000
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Take it for what it's worth, but China is saying the Pak are saying there were 6 losses. The 6th being a Mirage-2000
影/陸央視首次證實！巴國殲10CE擊落幻象2000
大陸官媒央視17日證實，巴基斯坦空軍部署的大陸製殲-10CE戰機在近期與印度的空戰中，成功擊落多架印度戰機。這是大陸官媒首次確認殲-10CE在實戰中取得戰果。
You're assuming the J-35 is a VLO FA. You're also assuming our radar networking is in its infancy. Lots of unnecessary assumptions Pops
The Chinese are just regurgitating Pakistani claims. It's bs.The fog of war should be over soon and details released. Stretching it out only gives credibility to the claims.
Take it for what it's worth, but China is saying the Pak are saying there were 6 losses. The 6th being a Mirage-2000
影/陸央視首次證實！巴國殲10CE擊落幻象2000
大陸官媒央視17日證實，巴基斯坦空軍部署的大陸製殲-10CE戰機在近期與印度的空戰中，成功擊落多架印度戰機。這是大陸官媒首次確認殲-10CE在實戰中取得戰果。
And according to these very Chinese sources how many FAs did the PAF lose ? Besides since you lay such stock on Paxtani & Chinese sources , you ought to post more often on what do the Chinese think about the F-35 or the F-22 or even your own "Ghost Bat . "The fog of war should be over soon and details released. Stretching it out only gives credibility to the claims.
Take it for what it's worth, but China is saying the Pak are saying there were 6 losses. The 6th being a Mirage-2000
影/陸央視首次證實！巴國殲10CE擊落幻象2000
大陸官媒央視17日證實，巴基斯坦空軍部署的大陸製殲-10CE戰機在近期與印度的空戰中，成功擊落多架印度戰機。這是大陸官媒首次確認殲-10CE在實戰中取得戰果。
It doesn't matter what Pakistan says! What matters is that we kicked their butt and humbled them. That's all that you need to know.The fog of war should be over soon and details released. Stretching it out only gives credibility to the claims.
Take it for what it's worth, but China is saying the Pak are saying there were 6 losses. The 6th being a Mirage-2000
影/陸央視首次證實！巴國殲10CE擊落幻象2000
大陸官媒央視17日證實，巴基斯坦空軍部署的大陸製殲-10CE戰機在近期與印度的空戰中，成功擊落多架印度戰機。這是大陸官媒首次確認殲-10CE在實戰中取得戰果。
About aircraft crashes, there isn't any proof (except few wreckages) of Pak claim. We also shot their multiple assets using Su-30MKI(as per OSINT). Wait n watch for full details to come out from our side.
This is not a mainland Chinese media, this is a Taiwanese media, using traditional ChineseThe fog of war should be over soon and details released. Stretching it out only gives credibility to the claims.
Take it for what it's worth, but China is saying the Pak are saying there were 6 losses. The 6th being a Mirage-2000
影/陸央視首次證實！巴國殲10CE擊落幻象2000
大陸官媒央視17日證實，巴基斯坦空軍部署的大陸製殲-10CE戰機在近期與印度的空戰中，成功擊落多架印度戰機。這是大陸官媒首次確認殲-10CE在實戰中取得戰果。
You mean this is one of those MSS sponsored portals . Thank you. That's all the confirmation we needed . Pops of course being your typical Aussie redneck can barely tell his front from his back side.
I don't know what MSS stands for, which is completely opposite to what most Indians imagine. Taiwan media generally adopts Pakistan's statement.
As for India's statement of destroying China's HQ9 and HQ16, unless you can show the wreckage of anti-aircraft missiles like Ukraine and Russia, it will be difficult to attract much attention from third-country media.
MSS - Ministry of State Security . In other words your employer & the employer of millions of Gaokao fail working @50 cents / post , the official rate of per post since 2005 . Zhongguo still remains a socialist paradise.
This is how non MSS sponsored Taiwanese media reports.
By the same token , please show us the wreckage of the 1 or 3 or 5 or 50 Rafales that Paxtan has claimed to have downed of the IAF , depending on which version of theirs you believe.
You shouldn't ask me this question, but should ask those who use the Pakistani way of speaking, such as Koreans, Japanese or Taiwanese.
Yes . Independent Taiwanese media like Taiwan Talks use English coz their audience is the non Mandarin / Cantonese speaking audience.
As far as your CTITV goes it's a pro China news portal no doubt funded by the MSS your employer . Speaks to their credibility. And yours too . 500 social credit points cut for being caught out.
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