Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

As I said you can believe whatever you want as the reason for the failure of the air defenses, you can only theorize the reasons for now.
Actually, it's not that big of a deal. The experience and lessons from Ukraine's air defense missile operations are much more useful than those from India and Pakistan. After all, the Indian authorities are controlling the narrative. The Chinese air defense system in Pakistan failed. Well, as I said, this is a 赢学
 
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As I said you can believe whatever you want as the reason for the failure of the air defenses, you can only theorize the reasons for now.
On critical military targets only some Brahmos could get through.
Storm Shadow failed and dozens of high and low altitude drones were shot down.

Not many countries in the world can shoot down a high supersonic, low flying cruise missile.

Pakistani air defence did well. Out of 4 Brahmos fired at Bholari, only one could hit, and that too was a grazing hit.
 
Actually, it's not that big of a deal. The experience and lessons from Ukraine's air defense missile operations are much more useful than those from India and Pakistan. After all, the Indian authorities are controlling the narrative. The Chinese air defense system in Pakistan failed. Well, as I said, this is a 赢学
First of all, use english here because I don't think anyone other than you can read mandarin here. I genuinely can't understand how having 11 bases struck from A2G missiles is not a big deal but you do you. Btw whatever you have written has nothing to do with what I wrote so I don't understand why you are replying to me. No need to give further replies if you want to just deflect from the main point that the Pakistani ADs failed to protect strategically important locations which are the priority for any AD and the Pakistanis had to change their HQ for whatever reason.
 
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First of all, use english here because I don't think anyone other than you can read mandarin here. I genuinely can't understand how having 11 bases struck from A2G missiles is not a big deal but you do you. Btw whatever you have written has nothing to do with what I wrote so I don't understand why you are replying to me. No need to give further replies if you want to just deflect from the main point that the Pakistani ADs failed to protect strategically important locations which are the priority for any AD and the Pakistanis had to change their HQ for whatever reason.

I don't know how to translate.赢学,It might be translated as Copium
Your way of thinking is typical of the military ideology of poor third-world countries. When the Rafale was shot down, you simply bought the Typhoon, F15EX, or other fighter jets. You don't understand how modern air combat is fought.
Similarly, if HQ9 cannot defend against all of India's attacks, then purchase PAC-3 or S400. Air defense operations are not conducted this way. Coordinated operations are what matter
Eleven air bases were attacked. As I saw it, most of them only had 1 to 3 bullet holes. According to NATO's perspective, to completely paralyze an air base, at least 20 missiles are needed. If one wants to accurately destroy reinforced bunkers, at least 50 missiles are required. The Indian attack had more symbolic significance.
 
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I don't know how to translate.赢学,It might be translated as Copium
Your way of thinking is typical of the military ideology of poor third-world countries.
Basically just like how CCP gives copium about Taiwan.

They became a prosperous nation, but you are still experiencing the century of humiliation.

Billions are spent on the military, but dont have guts to challenged anyone and have not won a war in half a century.
 
What are you even writing? let's decipher bit by bit. Answer each question and don't deflect from the main point like you did once again.
Your way of thinking is typical of the military ideology of poor third-world countries.
What is "typical of the military ideology of poor third-world countries" in thinking that having 11 bases struck from A2G missiles is a big deal?
When the Rafale was shot down, you simply bought the Typhoon, F15EX, or other fighter jets.
What do you mean by "you"? India hasn't bought either F 15 EX, Typhoon, etc and I don't have 300 mil so, who is "you"?
You don't understand how modern air combat is fought.
Do you have telepathic powers? I have never discussed anything about "modern air combat" in this forum.
Similarly, if HQ9 cannot defend against all of India's attacks, then purchase PAC-3 or S400. Air defense operations are not conducted this way. Coordinated operations are what matter
I never mentioned purchasing PAC-3 or S400 so where is that coming from?
Eleven air bases were attacked. As I saw it, most of them only had 1 to 3 bullet holes. According to NATO's perspective, to completely paralyze an air base, at least 20 missiles are needed. If one wants to accurately destroy reinforced bunkers, at least 50 missiles are required. The Indian attack had more symbolic significance.
So you agree that India had completely penetrated Pakistani ADs with such a less number of missiles?
 
What do you see now? All the Indians are saying, "We have won the war." Several of our Brahmos missiles hit the Pakistani air base. Alas, Chinese weapons are all junk.Jai Hind
See you are deflecting again, you didn't answer even one of my question. Now you went from "you" to "Indians". If we want to talk about "Indians" no need to reply to me, post independently. When you are replying to me write something that is relevant to what I wrote, understood?
 
I see there is a full blown tit-tat for going on between India, Pakistan, and China here. Saw LX has been banned, I have nothing personal against him. However, everything written on here by him is as if it was taken from some playbook and pasted. If you are going to counter an argument at least back them with evidence...."social media" post or "OSINT" screengrab or some "obscure explanation" will only take you so far. Tom Cooper's new substack post is up. Pretty decent....do give it a read.
 
Basically just like how CCP gives copium about Taiwan.

They became a prosperous nation, but you are still experiencing the century of humiliation.

Billions are spent on the military, but dont have guts to challenged anyone and have not won a war in half a century.
Looks like this touched a nerve and got him banned.

This is how you deal with Han in general: Remind them of their failure leadership to challenge Taiwan. They are taught about "century of humiliation" from childhood.
 
Well, what can I say? People always have to come up with some reasons to declare their victory, don't they? Why don't you go and take a look at the battlefield in Ukraine? Has Russia defended against every attack from Ukraine? The number of Russia's advanced anti-aircraft missiles is 30 times that of Pakistan, but he still has too many problems.
What our Chinese MSS friend does not know is that in case of any major skirmish on borders with China, their bases will be out of action within 20 mins and after that we will not let any help or reinforcements reach them till we decide the war on our terms. They will need to fly their aircarft from the mainland to strike us and we will be able to detect them and also set up ambushes all along their flight path.
 
Around 2 weeks before Pahalgam I had posted in a comment on Linkedin, that the popularity of Gen Munir was at an all time low, so either he would have to escalate in Kashmir, or the X corps commander (commanding forces along the LOC and a contender for CoAS) would do it for him.
Kashmir was in danger of being completely beyond Pak's ability to influence, let alone take over. The Pak army tradition since 1965 was to double down on a bad bet, which they did again.
Agree with your post. However, the desire to dominate / suppress / rule over / enslave India (read Hindus) is secret wish of regular Pakistani (imbibed from Islam) Hence, such antics of pak army are tolerated.

The people of pak (read Islam) is the problem. Not sure when the cult will be extinguished. We have 200M+ muzzies lying inside our borders.

Gandhi/Nehru/communists have done great harm to India.
 
It Won't. Ask yourself, what is the primary agenda of Pakistan Army?

Main agenda is doing “Business” 😂

But on a serious note, there seems to be a growing murmur (like our champ on the west said, on SM) that Pak citizens are realising that their rear was kicked really hard and that Pak army did squat in return. Add to this the fact that IWT is still in abeyance. Given how an average Pakistani brain works, the “idea of revenge” will most likely crop up.

I could be wrong about this, but given what hellfire posted about the status, something did happen in the background.
 
Main agenda is doing “Business” 😂

But on a serious note, there seems to be a growing murmur (like our champ on the west said, on SM) that Pak citizens are realising that their rear was kicked really hard and that Pak army did squat in return. Add to this the fact that IWT is still in abeyance. Given how an average Pakistani brain works, the “idea of revenge” will most likely crop up.

I could be wrong about this, but given what hellfire posted about the status, something did happen in the background.
Nothing will happen on 8th June. Russia has to come out of Ukraine war for us to go full ballastic against Pak and China.
 
On critical military targets only some Brahmos could get through.
Storm Shadow failed and dozens of high and low altitude drones were shot down.

Not many countries in the world can shoot down a high supersonic, low flying cruise missile.

Pakistani air defence did well. Out of 4 Brahmos fired at Bholari, only one could hit, and that too was a grazing hit.
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Brah -Grazer .
Grazed past.
Costs 5 million USD a piece.
Couldn't do it's own price worth of damage in materials.
Other than human life which is priceless.
 
Are we certain, sir? Lot of folks see to be saying otherwise. Of course, I have no inside connections.

Iran issue is hot, and Ukraine issue as well. Israel is also busy, so under these circumstances you can't risk a two front skirmish. Why? Because China in 1962 chose the time of Cuban missile crisis when both US and USSR were busy.
 
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