Ukraine - Russia Conflict

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Hydra said:
Trump had given multiple windows to Putin for a safe exit, he didn't utilize it.

I have mad respect to Modi now for listening to USA ( if at all happened the way Trump claims).
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This is effect of Trump but not in the way you think (where trump green lit this attack).

These kind of sub-convential attacks using civilian trucks is easier to pull off than you think when you have state resources behind you, unlike say insurgent groups. But they are escalatory and disruptive, because what will stop some rouge state to keep their shipping container in a port and take out Power station or something etc., and also since the target was Strategic Assets like Bombers, this will cause Russians to panick use them for a large enough attack with the rationale of use it or lose it, hence why Biden restrained ukrainians from doing these kind of things by keeping conditions for the aid given.

Trump as usual thought nothing of it and using a more hands-off approach and is also seen by ukrainians as pro-russia, so they don't care about US (Trump) opinion in pulling these kind of attacks and US under Trump also does not care about it much as they have their plates full with tariffs and domestic agenda. Infact israel also increased their tempo of ops compared to Biden's last few days.


Trump threatened tariffs and trade embargo on both India and pakistan according to his words not that he will bomb IAF and PAF air bases from civilian truck fpvs🤣
 
This just shows that Russia is a very vast country and anyone can get close to their bases and destroy their assets

Ukrainian intelligence has done a great job
 
Picdelamirand-oil said:
Ukraine has launched several drone attacks on Russian air bases located far from its borders.
More than 40 aircraft have already been hit.

On Sunday 1 June, Ukraine launched a ‘large-scale special operation aimed at destroying enemy bombers’, according to an AFP source in the Ukrainian security services (SBU). The source also said that a fire had broken out at the Belaya airfield in the Irkutsk region of eastern Siberia, more than 4,200 kilometres from Ukraine.

"This is a huge operation for Ukraine and catastrophic for Russia. Russia doesn't have thousands of strategic bombers and it is using them to launch missiles against the civilian population", notes geopolitical analyst Louis Duclos on his X account. The expert, who refers to a veritable ‘Russian Pearl Harbor’ - a reference to the attack by Japanese naval air forces on the Hawaiian naval base of the same name on 7 December 1941 - also describes the bombing of the Olenya air base near Murmansk (in the north-west of the country).

Videos of these attacks, carried out by drones hidden in containers and lorries, are proliferating on this social network. ‘SBU drones target the planes that bomb Ukrainian cities every night’, says Financial Times journalist Christopher Miller.

Meanwhile, exiled Belarusian journalist Hanna Liubakova posted on her X account that, according to the Russian Telegram channel Baza, the drivers were unaware of the presence of the drones in their vehicles. Some of them have been arrested.

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Pls be very scared bro. This is Pearl harbour-2. Europe may not survice now, especially UK, France and Germany. Wait for nuke retaliation by Russia. India has already given go ahead to Russia. Last time we stopped them but what USA and Europe did with us in our recent skirmish with Pak, we care two hoots for the entire white world.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
Pls be very scared bro. This is Pearl harbour-2. Europe may not survice now, especially UK, France and Germany. Wait for nuke retaliation by Russia. India has already given go ahead to Russia. Last time we stopped them but what USA and Europe did with us in our recent skirmish with Pak, we care two hoots for the entire white world.
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Logical response is hitting Ukraine population centers with nukes. But I doubt Russia has the balls.

And I again doubt we have any say in this.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
Pls be very scared bro. This is Pearl harbour-2. Europe may not survice now, especially UK, France and Germany. Wait for nuke retaliation by Russia. India has already given go ahead to Russia. Last time we stopped them but what USA and Europe did with us in our recent skirmish with Pak, we care two hoots for the entire white world.
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Russia has avoided escalation with NATO since 2014
  • Even after strikes on its bases in Crimea, Russia has never directly targeted a NATO country.
  • When Israel struck Russian forces in Syria (indirectly), Moscow protested... but did not react militarily.
  • The deliveries of SCALP and Storm Shadow, with their clear offensive role, have not changed this Russian caution.
Putin talks tough but acts cautiously
  • He has avoided any direct contact with NATO, even when his own bases have been hit by long-range drones.
  • His nuclear doctrine is based on deterrence, not the primary use of the weapon, unless there is an existential threat (which Ukraine does not represent for Moscow as long as it does not take Crimea).
The more timid the aid, the more Ukraine backs down
  • The Kremlin is betting on attrition, fear of escalation and Western divisions.
  • If the West ‘tips over’ into unofficial but clear cobelligerence, this could change the strategic equation:
  • Stronger threat to Russian logistical lines.
  • More effective electronic countermeasures.
  • Real-time targeting involving European specialists.

What would be involved in official or de facto cobelligerence?
Advantages:
  • Direct Ukrainian access to all European and NATO intelligence networks.
  • Possibility of using European aircraft for SEAD/DEAD over the Black Sea.
  • Faster transfer of complex munitions (AASM, SCALP, MICA, etc.).
  • Moral and diplomatic reinforcement of the Ukrainian camp.
Risks:
  • Asymmetric Russian reprisals: sabotage, cyber attacks, political destabilisation.
  • Indirect attacks on European positions in Africa or the Middle East.
  • Putting a strain on European public opinion already tired by the war.
 
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