NATO will not join the war, if they were so strong they would have taken on russia themselves instead of using Ukraine as pawn. West is using the same trick they use elsewhere , use proxies to to wear down the enemy and then move in when it is totally collapsed.
Ukraine - Russia Conflict
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russians are retards like us instead of going full steam they are fighting with hands tied behind, they want to showcase their fight as a just fight for their defence. But thats not the case with ukraine, which is a proxy whose sole purpose is to militarily weaken russia. Russia losing few tanks & soldiers is ok it can be replaced , but losing expensive large assets makes them globally weaker.
germany recently decided it will not put any restrictions on missile , they can be used to hit targets deep inside russia. Its high time russia went after the ukraine with absolute force instead of piece meal attacks.
Looks like Ukraine struck 10 odd. TU 95 with a drone swarm attack.
Looks like Ukraine struck 10 odd. TU 95 with a drone swarm attack
Looks like Ukraine struck 10 odd. TU 95 with a drone swarm attack
Not UK because I support Putin
Some will always be outside, but even then, getting through steel hulls meant to handle immense water pressure isn't easy for such small drones.
Russia won't fold due to this, they will become even more dangerous.
Russia is not Soviet Union. They are not even a regional power now,but yeah they have nukes. But even North Korea is also having nukes,but nobody count them as a power.
I fear Putin will fire nukes yesterday night, fortunately sense prevails.
I fear Putin will fire nukes yesterday night, fortunately sense prevails.
Until Russia arms up, nothing much is gonna happen to the West in terms of a Russian response.
Looks like corruption level is very high in Russia, operation of this scale can not be executed without insider support. In addition west intel support to Ukraine is top notch. It will be interesting to see how Russia responds.
Last year, Ukraine damaged/disabled at least two Voronezh early warning radars through long-range drone attacks (though back then I don't think this covert forward-positioning of drones inside Russia was done). Now they've destroyed an unconfirmed number of strategic bombers & it seems even a nuclear submarine base has been attacked though extent of damage is unknown.
It's clear now that they're targeting Russia's strategic capabilities in an attempt to disproportionately increase the cost of the war on Russia's military.
So far, Russia hasn't really upped the ante. Even the use of Oreshnik was more demonstrative rather than tactically relevant. The reason is most likely that Russia now has limited options to escalate while staying within the nuclear threshold. They're already throwing everything then can at Ukraine, and there are no type of targets within Ukraine that they haven't already attacked through conventional means (cities, bases, power infrastructure etc.)
Russia most likely will never use nukes against Ukraine. There ARE certain kinds of sub-conventional, deniable options that they can employ to harm Ukraine in a way that truly marks an escalation (targeting nuclear plants with the aim of creating radioactive release) but it seems the leadership in Moscow is strictly not signing off on such actions.
The Russians are keeping this conflict on a simmer...the front has barely moved in nearly 2 years. What's the strategy? To cause long-term hurt to EU economies in the hope that they'll elect far-right leaders that are less likely to support Ukraine? Doesn't seem to be working.
It's clear now that they're targeting Russia's strategic capabilities in an attempt to disproportionately increase the cost of the war on Russia's military.
So far, Russia hasn't really upped the ante. Even the use of Oreshnik was more demonstrative rather than tactically relevant. The reason is most likely that Russia now has limited options to escalate while staying within the nuclear threshold. They're already throwing everything then can at Ukraine, and there are no type of targets within Ukraine that they haven't already attacked through conventional means (cities, bases, power infrastructure etc.)
Russia most likely will never use nukes against Ukraine. There ARE certain kinds of sub-conventional, deniable options that they can employ to harm Ukraine in a way that truly marks an escalation (targeting nuclear plants with the aim of creating radioactive release) but it seems the leadership in Moscow is strictly not signing off on such actions.
The Russians are keeping this conflict on a simmer...the front has barely moved in nearly 2 years. What's the strategy? To cause long-term hurt to EU economies in the hope that they'll elect far-right leaders that are less likely to support Ukraine? Doesn't seem to be working.
Reason is they dig their own holes, they agreed not to attack ukraines power grid & black sea shipping lanes. They laid siege to kyiv and retreated assuming they have a deal. It seems their only aim is to wear down EU by war of attrition but that has only emboldened them to strike deep into russia. Unless they pull out a shocker where they threaten to arm iran or nk with nukes this will continue.
Since advent of drone warfare it is getting clearer by each passing day that optimizing safety of your assets have taken high priority whether it is underground or overground. Pakistan and Russia are latest example of it, things can not be left open on assumption that enemy can not reach here. One may be having a great ADS but one slip and your assets are going to say goodbye to you.
Having excellent hardened structures are need of the hour, History has shown that whenever sharpness of arrows/ javelins got increased so the thickness of shields. Now is the time to take 150% work from civil engineers.
By the way month of July is looking great, specially second half.
Having excellent hardened structures are need of the hour, History has shown that whenever sharpness of arrows/ javelins got increased so the thickness of shields. Now is the time to take 150% work from civil engineers.
By the way month of July is looking great, specially second half.
It's the special power of communism. They never know who their internal enemies are. Whereas in democracies, they let us know beforehand with their loud mouths.
They have a whole new army they can use to open up a new front though. If not this year, they could do so next year.
Anyway, this gives Putin the excuse to mobilize if necessary.
This temporarily ends an opportunity for a ceasefire. Time to see the extent of Putin's planned summer offensive, again.
They have a whole new army they can use to open up a new front though. If not this year, they could do so next year.
Anyway, this gives Putin the excuse to mobilize if necessary.
This temporarily ends an opportunity for a ceasefire. Time to see the extent of Putin's planned summer offensive, again.
However, according to some Pakistanis, the drone attack on Russian bases was a false flag operation orchestrated by Russia to blame Ukraine.Looks like Ukraine struck 10 odd. TU 95 with a drone swarm attack.
Looks like Ukraine struck 10 odd. TU 95 with a drone swarm attack
Not UK because I support Putin
Russians are in Istanbul now,infront of a negotiation table with Ukraine. Such a sad state of Russia,attending a meeting with enemy just vaporized 40 of their strategic assets.
Details of the Ukrainian operation Spider Web, an attack by FPV drones on Russian military airfields, have become known. The operation was prepared for 1.5 years, it was planned to attack the airfields "Belaya" - Irkutsk region, "Olenya" - Murmansk region, "Ukrainka" - Amur region, "Dyagilevo" - Ryazan region, "Ivanovo" - Ivanovo region. As a result, 2 airfields were attacked, "Belaya" - Irkutsk region and "Olenya" - Murmansk region. It is worth noting that the operation was truly large-scale. To carry out the operation, a warehouse was rented in Chelyabinsk, hundreds of FPV drones were delivered there, and later "mobile wooden houses". It is possible that the FPV drones were assembled on site. These houses were placed on trucks, and FPV drones were hidden under their roofs. The wooden structures were designed in such a way that their upper part could be opened remotely. From this warehouse, trucks were then sent to other cities, one of the truck drivers was later found dead. The drones were controlled on non-standard frequencies, so electronic warfare had no effect on them. Presumably, cellular communications were used to communicate with the drones, some sources reported on Starlink terminals located in the forests. Trucks with containers stopped on roads and parking lots, after which drones took off from there. One truck was blocked by drivers in the parking lot, in the video people throw stones at the top of the container with drones, it is worth noting that there is a police car nearby. It can be said that thanks to the drivers, many planes were saved. Several containers caught fire and exploded on the highway on the way to the airfields, presumably the drones overheated in the containers. The video shows a truck in the Amur Region, if it and other trucks had arrived, there would have been more destroyed planes. How this could have been prevented, first of all, this is the work of the special services, but they are now overloaded with identifying sabotage and terrorist attacks. It would be possible to reduce losses if the aircraft were placed in hangars, they have been talking about them for 3 years, but so far only projects have been shown. Also, we need anti-FPV groups. Cellular communications, including "Starlink", should be jammed at airfields. Electronic warfare and air defense systems are already present at some airfields, but no one expected threats from FPV. Also, we need anti-FPV groups now. It is worth noting that no air defense systems or air defense systems in the world can confidently hit FPV drones. Satellite images have already confirmed the destruction of three Tu-95MS and damage to one aircraft at the Belaya airfield, and four Tu-22M3s were destroyed. We also saw a burning An-12 on video, but it is not in the pictures. There is no video about the Olenya airfield, the SBU of Ukraine did not show anything, but there was a fire there. Thus, the loss of 40 aircraft is not confirmed at the moment, but videos may appear later. It turned out to be a fake that the drones had artificial intelligence, and in the video they were controlled by operators.
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Dozens of these are already operational and Armenia has bought them too.
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Some are integrated with DEW and guns.
Talks will most likely will collapse. Ukraine's achieved its goal of continuing the war.