Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

[LX1111]

Still doesn't prove it was intercepted.... There is no proof of any interception by Pakistani.. ... Few brahmos were aborted mid flight..... There may be a slight possibility it was a malfunction like one Scalp that dropped almost intact or this could just be a debri of after brahmos strike which in all probability it is.

Referring to the wreckage of the BrahMos missile in 2023, if it failed to launch or crashed out of control, then its wreckage would be relatively intact and the remaining fuel would burn.
But now the two missiles obviously disintegrated in the air, and there were no signs of burning.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Still doesn't prove it was intercepted.... There is no proof of any interception by Pakistani.. ... Few brahmos were aborted mid flight..... There may be a slight possibility it was a malfunction like one Scalp that dropped almost intact or this could just be a debri of after brahmos strike which in all probability it is.

SCALP was a malfunction but this BrahMos does appear to be an interception, as the wreckage is not concentrated on a single location but scattered. Anyways these are very old stocks of BrahMos we used, the ones inititally bought for IAF.

 

[South block]

It seems some people don’t understand the difference between almost intact wreckage.......usually indicative of an aborted flight and splintered, dispersed wreckage, which results from a high-speed impact and explosion.

The debris is scattered precisely because the missile hit hard and detonated , sending its parts in all directions.

To date, there has been absolutely no credible proof of any interception.......just self-congratulatory feel-good narratives from Pakistani and 50 cent warriors, trying to save face after the humiliation of their Chinese air defense systems failing so spectacularly.

 

[Shan]

It seems some people don’t understand the difference between almost intact wreckage.......usually indicative of an aborted flight and splintered, dispersed wreckage, which results from a high-speed impact and explosion.

The debris is scattered precisely because the missile hit hard and detonated , sending its parts in all directions.

To date, there has been absolutely no credible proof of any interception.......just self-congratulatory feel-good narratives from Pakistani and 50 cent warriors, trying to save face after the humiliation of their Chinese air defense systems failing so spectacularly.

Bravo! Nobody here is an expert. There are no certain takes about the interceptions. Also, this one particular image is being circulated that the missile failed or was intercepted. There can only be informed takes. I agree this could just as well be a missile which made an impact.

Coming to SCALP again, there is the same set of images pertaining to 2 SCALP missiles that is being circulated. Indian analysts are quick to dismiss their systems and readily accept stories circulated by PAF or ISPR handles. Without operational details, people are discussing theoretical interception rates based on Onyx in Russia. I am sorry did we fire the Brahmos or SCALP into a NATO country that CAMM-ER/IRIS-T level rates are being discussed? Extrapolating data has its limits.

OSINT IMINT has not been done by any credible group neither has a report been circulated by any military magazine or think tank with regards to the interceptions in this particular military op.

 

[RationalGuy]

SCALP was a malfunction but this BrahMos does appear to be an interception, as the wreckage is not concentrated on a single location but scattered. Anyways these are very old stocks of BrahMos we used, the ones inititally bought for IAF.

No proof it's an interception.

 

[Chicu01]

On the Chinese Internet, few people paid attention to the wreckage of the two BrahMos missiles. After all, our target is the United States, with its numerous AGM-158 and newly commissioned LRHW missiles, PrSM missiles
What India's air strike on Pakistan has inspired us is the importance of AEWCin national air defense operations. Traditional ground-based radars are affected by the curvature of the earth and have difficulty detecting low-flying targets from a long distance, especially supersonic targets like BrahMos.
This is also the reason why we equip KJ500 on a large scale,
A high-performance AESA radar is more important than anything else in the air.

There’s one Storm Shadow and one Brahmos wreckages.

We launched just 15 Brahmos. And each target was allocated a max of 2-3 Brahmos A.

Even then your state of the art air defence systems couldn’t intercept them. Now imagine what would have happened if we launched 40-50 Brahmos A?

 

[banthelwa]

There’s one Storm Shadow and one Brahmos wreckages.

We launched just 15 Brahmos. And each target was allocated a max of 2-3 Brahmos A.

Even then your state of the art air defence systems couldn’t intercept them. Now imagine what would have happened if we launched 40-50 Brahmos A?

Nothing new would have happened. They would still try to look for a wreckage or make one with ai, and claim victory based on that.

 

[RationalGuy]

There’s one Storm Shadow and one Brahmos wreckages.

We launched just 15 Brahmos. And each target was allocated a max of 2-3 Brahmos A.

Even then your state of the art air defence systems couldn’t intercept them. Now imagine what would have happened if we launched 40-50 Brahmos A?

According to dear comrade we launched 100 brahmos. She actually said that

 

[Shan]

According to dear comrade we launched 100 brahmos. She actually said that

It is actually a He. A Han gentleman. At least that is what I was told a while ago.

 

[RationalGuy]

It is actually a He. A Han gentlemen. At least that is what I was told a while ago.

Oh is it. Iirc it told me it was a she. All the well they both look similar so whatever.

 

[LX1111]

There’s one Storm Shadow and one Brahmos wreckages.

We launched just 15 Brahmos. And each target was allocated a max of 2-3 Brahmos A.

Even then your state of the art air defence systems couldn’t intercept them. Now imagine what would have happened if we launched 40-50 Brahmos A?

According to dear comrade we launched 100 brahmos. She actually said that

100 is a quote from a Pakistani Air Force spokesperson. The total number of missiles launched by India is 100.

According to Ukraine, the success rate of intercepting the 3M55 Onyx supersonic cruise missile is 5.69%
Then Pakistan's air defense performance is at least comparable to Ukraine's
This also reflects that the ground radar's detection range for this type of low-altitude supersonic missile is too small and the interception window is too short.

 

[RationalGuy]

100 is a quote from a Pakistani Air Force spokesperson. The total number of missiles launched by India is 100.
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According to Ukraine, the success rate of intercepting the 3M55 Onyx supersonic cruise missile is 5.69%
Then Pakistan's air defense performance is at least comparable to Ukraine's
This also reflects that the ground radar's detection range for this type of low-altitude supersonic missile is too small and the interception window is too short.

Yes India launched 100 Brahmos and you are the General Secretary CPC.

 

[LX1111]

"Shieet"....... Here we go again

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What's the point of posting this kind of picture? Most Chinese people will just feel confused.
Most international media reports on the India-Pakistan conflict also focused on the J10C shooting down the Rafale. Except for the Indian media, basically no one reported on the HQ9.
Forbes News even released a news a few days ago that HQ9B is expanding its market in the Middle East.

China’s HQ-9B Challenges Russia’s Middle East Air Defense Market Share

Any timely delivery of China's HQ-9B/FD-2000B air defense missile system to Iran would send a strong signal to Russia, which is losing traditional Middle Eastern clients.

www.forbes.com

 

[LX1111]

Yes India launched 100 Brahmos and you are the General Secretary CPC

Yes India launched 100 Brahmos and you are the General Secretary CPC.

I think I have explained it clearly.
Considering that Pakistan only has 2-3 sets of HQ9
The current results are also qualified

 

[Shan]

I think I have explained it clearly.
Considering that Pakistan only has 2-3 sets of HQ9
The current results are also qualified

You've been citing the PAF figures. Forget about those for now. What does the PLAAF claim? How many were launched? Give us the numbers for each cruise missile that India fired. I will even give you leeway and ask you not to cite a source. You can even take a number from weibo or baidu PLA OSINT handles and paste them here

What's the point of posting this kind of picture? Most Chinese people will just feel confused.
Most international media reports on the India-Pakistan conflict also focused on the J10C shooting down the Rafale. Except for the Indian media, basically no one reported on the HQ9.
Forbes News even released a news a few days ago that HQ9B is expanding its market in the Middle East.

China’s HQ-9B Challenges Russia’s Middle East Air Defense Market Share

Any timely delivery of China's HQ-9B/FD-2000B air defense missile system to Iran would send a strong signal to Russia, which is losing traditional Middle Eastern clients.

www.forbes.com

Good to know. Paul Iddon is a freelance journalist focused on Middle East affairs. So not exactly a Forbes employee or a on-roll journalist. For now it is only a challenge - make sales.

 

[Shan]

Most international media reports on the India-Pakistan conflict also focused on the J10C shooting down the Rafale. Except for the Indian media, basically no one reported on the HQ9.

And how many deals have you been able to make with the PAF since then? How many export orders are lining up for this year from friendly countries? There is not a peep from the Indonesians that were engaged.

 

[Shan]

India will continue pursuit to bring Pahalgam attackers to justice: Jaishankar cites UNSC at SCO

Jaishankar recalled the UNSC’s strong condemnation of the attack in April that killed 26 people and called on the SCO to take a firm stance against terrorism, adding that India is making efforts to bring the terrorists involved in the attack to justice

www.firstpost.com

Jaishankar recalled the UNSC’s strong condemnation of the attack in April that killed 26 people and called on the SCO to take an “uncompromised” position against terrorism, adding that India is making efforts to bring the terrorists involved in the attack to justice.

 

[South block]

Don't know if posted before..... Another view of India strikes on Kirana hills ( Pakistan nuclear weapon storage site )

 

[TARGET]

Don't know if posted before..... Another view of India strikes on Kirana hills ( Pakistan nuclear weapon storage site )

After building SMART, we have proven the capability to integrate two completely separate missiles as a single delivery package with complete precision. IMO, we should work on a similar missile delivery system to deliver GBU-57-type bunker buster bombs on enemy storage facilities. This will give a knockout punch to our enemy.

 

[LX1111]

And how many deals have you been able to make with the PAF since then? How many export orders are lining up for this year from friendly countries? There is not a peep from the Indonesians that were engaged.

Unlike India, China generally keeps its foreign trade orders confidential, so we don’t know how many orders we have reached so far.


For example, Serbia's HQ22 and HQ17A，
We did not know we were exporting these weapons until Serbia publicly displayed them


Similarly, we exported the HQ22 to Thailand and the HQ17A to Tajikistan. We did not know that China exported these weapons until they publicly displayed them.

You've been citing the PAF figures. Forget about those for now. What does the PLAAF claim? How many were launched? Give us the numbers for each cruise missile that India fired. I will even give you leeway and ask you not to cite a source. You can even take a number from weibo or baidu PLA OSINT handles and paste them here

Good to know. Paul Iddon is a freelance journalist focused on Middle East affairs. So not exactly a Forbes employee or a on-roll journalist. For now it is only a challenge - make sales.

From the beginning to the end, the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs has not made any statement on the India-Pakistan conflict. We only call on India and Pakistan to resolve the issue through political means.
So we naturally won’t publish the relevant data.

You've been citing the PAF figures. Forget about those for now. What does the PLAAF claim? How many were launched? Give us the numbers for each cruise missile that India fired. I will even give you leeway and ask you not to cite a source. You can even take a number from weibo or baidu PLA OSINT handles and paste them here

Good to know. Paul Iddon is a freelance journalist focused on Middle East affairs. So not exactly a Forbes employee or a on-roll journalist. For now it is only a challenge - make sales.

From the beginning to the end, the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs has not made any statement on the India-Pakistan conflict. We only call on India and Pakistan to resolve the issue through political means.
So we naturally won’t publish the relevant data.