Stryker Infantry Vehicle for Indian Army

[marich01]

Look at the total requirement volume and how much we get to buy. A bit of diversity gives you operational flexibility + chance to accumulate best feature of both set.

Yes the above point gives impression that on its own the tri services can not come up with ideal specification details on their own hence need multi platform trial experience. Army certainly lack desired technical knowledgeable personnel that can chalk out the technical part on its own. We have heard about dearth of proper technocraft personnel in the service rank before. Such visionaries often get sidelined or move on or become victim of lobby politics.

So as a service they derive it from user experience as an alternative. Technology keep getting complex so this chasm will keep getting longer.

 

[babablacksheep]

A bit of diversity gives you operational flexibility + chance to accumulate best feature of both set.

Also sucks more money, and logistics complications.
US army itself for example only uses Abrams as it's main battle tank
Bradley ifv.
Wheeled apc striker.
Tracked apc m113.

Us army itself doesn't operate Two different types of wheeled apc, while themselves need to fight on desert of middle east, plains of Europe, Islands of pacific, also needs to be capable of operating in cold Alaska.

Our economy is still quite dependent on Uncle Sam along with our whole Tejas line. Got to dangle them some carrot for them to accept our dealings with our old and time-tested friend Russia.

Still, I support WhAP over this American junk known as Striker. But GOI are more smart than all of us. So let's see what they decide!

However, with the Americans, I think there's something else going on at a higher level than what we let on.

I think there's an effort (seems very haphazard & coincidental, but maybe that's by design) to create combined arms formations that are largely compatible to operate alongside US Stryker Brigade Combat Teams.

Na I'm talking about this conspiracy theory

 

[Rajput Lion]

Also sucks more money, and logistics complications.
US army itself for example only uses Abrams as it's main battle tank
Bradley ifv.
Wheeled apc striker.
Tracked apc m113.

Correct️️

Us army itself doesn't operate Two different types of wheeled apc, while themselves need to fight on desert of middle east, plains of Europe, Islands of pacific, also needs to be capable of operating in cold Alaska.

Na I'm talking about this conspiracy theory

So as per this conspiracy theory, IA is looking to fight along with US Army against the Chinese, thus they need Strikers

 

[jmaxwell_]

This perhaps best describes the Stryker/Javelin trial failures:



Now that a fire has been lit under the Indian diplomatic core for their god awful handling of the US relationship, I wonder if WhAP/MPATGPM will be sacrificed for political capital ?

 

[Subgradewalker]

This perhaps best describes the Stryker/Javelin trial failures:

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Now that a fire has been lit under the Indian diplomatic core for their god awful handling of the US relationship, I wonder if WhAP/MPATGPM will be sacrificed for political capital ?

Sell to the Chinese?

 

[jmaxwell_]

Sell to the Chinese?

I have done a poor job with the analogy

To power their AI ambitions, the Chinese have some homegrown GPU designs but nowhere on par with Nvidia. Lutnick was spilling the beans on TV about how the US was selling them chips slightly better than what the Chinese have but not state of the art -- with the goal of keeping them ever addicted to older silicon designs (and adding my 2c -- therefore having the Chinese lose motivation with their own homegrown designs).
Does this not sound familiar with Stryker (and I was thinking if the trial failures might be due to nerfing it too much)?

And I was additionally lamenting if the Indian diplomats might end up buying Stryker anyway in an attempt to salvage the India/Trump relationship.

 

[Subgradewalker]

I have done a poor job with the analogy

To power their AI ambitions, the Chinese have some homegrown GPU designs but nowhere on par with Nvidia. Lutnick was spilling the beans on TV about how the US was selling them chips slightly better than what the Chinese have but not state of the art -- with the goal of keeping them ever addicted to older silicon designs (and adding my 2c -- therefore having the Chinese lose motivation with their own homegrown designs).
Does this not sound familiar with Stryker (and I was thinking if the trial failures might be due to nerfing it too much)?

And I was additionally lamenting if the Indian diplomats might end up buying Stryker anyway in an attempt to salvage the India/Trump relationship.

Ah! It's very likely US haven't provided their best in exports so far. It's actually the obvious thing and we can see that, even in the F-16 with PAF. Same with Chinese export to PAF. That's why indigenous capability building is so necessary while imports for absorption of tech. Chinese are masters of it. They have absorbed almost every tech they have imported. Including semi-conductors. And Lutnick can't stop it because they will just absorb that little better GPU, make it homegrown and then Lutnick will give better version for dollars and REE.
That's where Indian Industry has failed stupendously. From IT industry to Automobile Industry. And that's why I prefer them calling Kirana industry of India.

I will be discontent too if WhaP is given up upon but I doubt they will do that given the US' handling of GE engines and navarros rhetoric. They will fund whaP by buying them even if they buy some strykers. But our army is a tough user and govt is unlikely to not consider the users pov.

Correction: diplomats can't buy anything. They get directives from the govt and they work on basis of that.
If govt gives direction to lure Americans with striker deal.. they will add it to their basket of diplomacy.

 

[Ashwin]

While the P8I will go through, the Stryker armoured vehicle under discussion between India and the USA is "off," sources said as the armed forces do not seem keen on it. The Army is also keen on a limited number of US Javelin anti-tank missiles, some of which have come as part of the emergency purchases.

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[randomradio]

While the P8I will go through, the Stryker armoured vehicle under discussion between India and the USA is "off," sources said as the armed forces do not seem keen on it. The Army is also keen on a limited number of US Javelin anti-tank missiles, some of which have come as part of the emergency purchases.

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India has decided to proceed with the acquisition of six P-8I Poseidon Maritime Reconnaissance aircraft from the U.S., despite significant price increases attributed to supply-chain issues., India News, Times Now

www.timesnownews.com

Stryker has to be modernized with a new engine and an amphibious capability. If the US Army isn't interested in this, then we are unlikely to fund it out of our own pockets.