Operation Sindoor: Aftermath
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Why are people laughing about this. This is a serious threat. Uses the same propulsion and guidance as brahmos. So we won't be able likely intercept as easily we intercepted past pakistani missiles.
nobody apart from idiots are completely dismissing the system, the armed forces might have issues but they're not that stupid lmao.
ISPR fanboys: Churan khao aur khoob edited video banao.
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IMO, While solid motor missiles and SFDR/Ramjet systems may show similar time-to-target stats over 250–400 km, the real distinction may lies in their flight profiles. Traditional rockets often 'burn and coast,' losing energy at the terminal phase, whereas the HD-1’s ramjet may provides sustained speed.
| Feature | HD-1 (Ground Variant) | Fateh-II | SMASH |
| Engine | Solid Fuel Ramjet (SFDR) | Solid Rocket Motor | Solid Rocket Motor |
| Category | Supersonic Cruise Missile | Guided MLRS Rocket | Quasi-Ballistic Missile |
| Range | ~290–450 km | ~400 km | ~350–500 km |
| Speed | Mach 2.5 – 3.5 | Mach 3.0 | Mach 3.0 – 3.5+ |
| Launcher | 8x8 Truck (6 missiles/unit) | 8x8 Truck (2 missiles/unit) | Mobile TEL (1-2 missiles) |
China transferring the scramjet tech to pakistan is a major complication for India. Now they have the means to strike deep inside India with good probability of successful hit. It also allows China to stay away from kinetic conflict with India as India-Pakistan get wrangled in a war. In an India-Pakistan conflict India has more to lose. (Which is why I dont understand the genius thinking behind establishing a semiconductor fab in Gujarat so close to the border?? great thinking right there...fking dumbfcks). In an India-China conflict China has more to lose, which is why I dont think China will ever initiate a conflict with India. They may try salami slicing but they wont be the first to outright start missile strikes. The reason is that China's conventional military might might be overwheling against India but India as enough offensive firepower that chinese ADS cant intercept. Meaning India might burn to stone age but it will take China to medieval times along with it.
On the other hand India-Pakistan are trigger happy. Pakistan has nothing to lose vis-a-vis India so they willingly initiate war to increase the relevency of their military establishment. India is trigger happy as Pakistan had no credible offensive tools to harm India. So, India could get away with initiating conflicts with Pakistan pre-2026. It cant anymore. Which is why I think brahmos strikes in May 2025 were useless. Either you should have gone all in, launching hundreds of brahmos to set them back by decades or not displayed this capability at all. These chods took the middle path. The old dinosaur fossil thinking in Indian mil estab is cancerous. These guys were celebrating conflict termination as a big achievement. Pre-2025 Pakistan didnt have the offensive tools to sustain even a month long conflict with India. They would just get pummeled non-stop. Their wonder-weapon CM-400AKG was useless in may 2025.
The answer to this complication is to simply copy the chinese playbook. Find another country that has nothing to lose vis-a-vis Pakistan and is trigger happy to initiate conflicts with them. Answer-Afghanistan. Arm Afghanistan with Indian weapons that complicate Paksitan's calculations. First step should be to transfer the drone manufacturing capability so that they can have independent production capability. I am talking about drones like Shahed. Second step should to transfer our old ADS like old gen Akash and a joint situational awareness setup bw India & Afghanistan. This will push them deeper from both east & west. In future, transfer deep strike missile capabilities like Pralay missiles. Setup an Afgan drone & rocket force.
This will force Pakistan to invest In expensive ADS. A 2 front arms race that they will never win. But I also understand that dealing with Taliban is problematic.
On the other hand India-Pakistan are trigger happy. Pakistan has nothing to lose vis-a-vis India so they willingly initiate war to increase the relevency of their military establishment. India is trigger happy as Pakistan had no credible offensive tools to harm India. So, India could get away with initiating conflicts with Pakistan pre-2026. It cant anymore. Which is why I think brahmos strikes in May 2025 were useless. Either you should have gone all in, launching hundreds of brahmos to set them back by decades or not displayed this capability at all. These chods took the middle path. The old dinosaur fossil thinking in Indian mil estab is cancerous. These guys were celebrating conflict termination as a big achievement. Pre-2025 Pakistan didnt have the offensive tools to sustain even a month long conflict with India. They would just get pummeled non-stop. Their wonder-weapon CM-400AKG was useless in may 2025.
The answer to this complication is to simply copy the chinese playbook. Find another country that has nothing to lose vis-a-vis Pakistan and is trigger happy to initiate conflicts with them. Answer-Afghanistan. Arm Afghanistan with Indian weapons that complicate Paksitan's calculations. First step should be to transfer the drone manufacturing capability so that they can have independent production capability. I am talking about drones like Shahed. Second step should to transfer our old ADS like old gen Akash and a joint situational awareness setup bw India & Afghanistan. This will push them deeper from both east & west. In future, transfer deep strike missile capabilities like Pralay missiles. Setup an Afgan drone & rocket force.
This will force Pakistan to invest In expensive ADS. A 2 front arms race that they will never win. But I also understand that dealing with Taliban is problematic.
Another aspect of this move is the India-China relations. China is complicating India's life by shortening the tech development cycle of pakistani mil-industrial complex. India needed 2 decades of R&D to master scramjets. Pakistan got it for free. China doesnt need to get involved in a direct conflict with India. It will just sharpen pakistan's offensive capabilities.
1. Warn countries around Pakistan how China is complicating their lives by Uplifting Pakistani capabilities and start backchannel intel shaing with them.
2. We should reciprocate this move. Jump start the mil-industrial complex of countries like Philippines, Vietnam etc i.e smaller countries around China that are wary of them. Every enemy of china must have 2 capabilities - cheap drones and cheap supersonic missiles.
Perfect candidate:
Further, increase military exchanges with like countries like South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Australia. Exchange valuable tech like supresonic/hypersonic propulsion for something of value from them.
Increase the size of satellite constellation and start geo-intel sharing with all these countries. Also, launch spy satellites for them to give some independent capabilities to them.
P.S. Backchannel efforts with Taiwan. All the capabilities i have talked about should be provided to them, But I also understand that Modi is too much of a pus.sy to do this.
1. Warn countries around Pakistan how China is complicating their lives by Uplifting Pakistani capabilities and start backchannel intel shaing with them.
2. We should reciprocate this move. Jump start the mil-industrial complex of countries like Philippines, Vietnam etc i.e smaller countries around China that are wary of them. Every enemy of china must have 2 capabilities - cheap drones and cheap supersonic missiles.
Perfect candidate:
Further, increase military exchanges with like countries like South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Australia. Exchange valuable tech like supresonic/hypersonic propulsion for something of value from them.
Increase the size of satellite constellation and start geo-intel sharing with all these countries. Also, launch spy satellites for them to give some independent capabilities to them.
P.S. Backchannel efforts with Taiwan. All the capabilities i have talked about should be provided to them, But I also understand that Modi is too much of a pus.sy to do this.
These are the latest numbers for PAF losses now.
BHIMBER > MIRAGE-V
KOTLI > JF-17
SIALKOT > JF-17
KOT ADDU > F-16/JF-17
DINGA > F-16
NAROWAL > F-16
BAHAWALPUR > JF-17
BHOLARI > AWACS WITH F-16s
AWACS ? > BY S-400(314KM) { could be another high born asset as well }
SHAHBAZ HANAGR > 2-4 F16S
NUR KHAN > C130 { debatable might not be true , only minor splinter damage }
There are high chances few more have been destroyed on ground.
BHIMBER > MIRAGE-V
KOTLI > JF-17
SIALKOT > JF-17
KOT ADDU > F-16/JF-17
DINGA > F-16
NAROWAL > F-16
BAHAWALPUR > JF-17
BHOLARI > AWACS WITH F-16s
AWACS ? > BY S-400(314KM) { could be another high born asset as well }
SHAHBAZ HANAGR > 2-4 F16S
NUR KHAN > C130 { debatable might not be true , only minor splinter damage }
There are high chances few more have been destroyed on ground.
Ohhh! He won't stop, he is biased
Unlike others he does it subtly,
Any sane person could have figured out by now there's no damage this side of the border, the only damage that are caused due to artillery & mortar rounds,
When the CM400 debris in farms fields, forest, missing the targets by miles, and lack of Chinese sats image,
Won't it make obvious that there's little to no damage
You have summed it up well. I have been always a big proponent of Akash in taliban hands with a kill mechanism to spare civilian airliners. Maybe the height restriction. It will show those tunders how mean taliban can be.
In this war against Pakistan, USA (the administration) now is aligned with Pakistan as a counter weight against Indians. We will have no GPS access for the drones. FPV drones and sophisticated IEDs are something we definitely should be sharing with the Taliban.
PS: the answer to the Pakistani supersonic missile, is hypersonics, especially glide Vehicles.
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PS 2: the answer to the Pakistani supersonic missile, is Barak 8 or the MRSAM. Our response this time should be a full throttle of hypersonics attack on their everything capable of shooting back at us. Hypersonic missiles and especially glide Vehicles.
Immense amount of effort is being spent to generate and circulate synthetic content and SAT images. From what I have been able to gauge the amount of bot accounts have reached staggering levels. This happens to be the case with quite a few SM networks. I hope the GoI invests more in the cyberspace. There are quite a few malicious actors working to push a specific narrative. Restrained spending in this area will only lead to the space being inundated with more such posts and videos.
The GoI will have to work with these SM orgs. to get things sorted about mitigating the effects and on steps to tackle such accounts that are repeatedly engaging in such activities.
The GoI will have to work with these SM orgs. to get things sorted about mitigating the effects and on steps to tackle such accounts that are repeatedly engaging in such activities.
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The old chap was on quite the media run those days.