Dassault Rafale - Updates and Discussion
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Not much info on the Comète missile from the MBDA CEO (~17min), but from their pov it's not a Meteor replacement but it will complement their current offer
What's your take on Rafale vs Su-35S & Rafale vs Su-57S in both BVR & WVR(with both guns and HOBS IR missiles)?
if you would allow me to interrupt,
rafale vs su35S is bascically equal and depends heavily on the circumstances of the battle, same with the su30SM2.
rafale vs su57S in a non networked environemnt without any freindly assets is easy kills for the su57S.
Rafale vs su57S in a networked environment is a 65-35 to the su57 because it now depends in ground based assets and AD etc to limit the su57.
With the tactics France has developed that take into account the Rafale's capabilities, the Rafale today fears no aircraft. When you imagine the most dangerous possible situations with the best aircraft as adversaries and present them to a French Rafale pilot, he replies, "I'm not afraid!"
Yes, French Rafale pilots are clearly fearless. It seems they are confident the French system won't jail them or they are not afraid of going to jail. As many of them were busy training the Chinese, and maybe even passed on the secrets of the aircraft to the Chinese.
China/France • French court revokes clearance for Rafale instructor who previously trained Chinese pilots
A court ruling has revealed that a French former fighter pilot hired as an instructor by Dassault Aviation in 2019 was deemed a security risk and had his clearance revoked after it emerged that he
A French former fighter pilot hired as an instructor by Dassault Aviation in 2019 was deemed a security risk and had his clearance revoked after it emerged that he had previously trained pilots for the Chinese People's Liberation Army.
China/France • French probe into ex-pilot's alleged work for Beijing reveals how China gleans Western aviation expertise - 09/04/2025 - Intelligence Online
Frenchman Pierre-Henri Chuet, a former French Air Force pilot turned YouTube star, is the subject of a preliminary investigation by the Paris Public Prosecutor's Office for allegedly spying for - 4/9/2025
At least three French pilots were trained on the Rafale as part of a scheme put in place by Beijing to train its pilots using Western expertise which was first revealed by Intelligence Online in 2019.
"Frenchman Pierre-Henri Chuet, a former French Air Force pilot turned YouTube star, is the subject of a preliminary investigation by the Paris Public Prosecutor's Office for allegedly spying for China. Intelligence Online already reported back in 2019 on how the Chinese army has for years been training with Western pilots.
Former French pilot suspected of sharing defence intelligence with China
A French former naval fighter pilot is under investigation over allegations he shared sensitive military information with Chinese authorities during two training trips to China.
www.rfi.fr
The pilot, identified by Le Parisien and Mediapart as Pierre-Henri Chuet, reportedly travelled to China in September 2018 and August 2019 to run training sessions for Chinese military pilots.
At the time, he was still serving in the French Navy.
A source close to the case told French media that Chuet did not inform his superiors about the trips, which is required under French defence regulations.
Didn't a declassified French report came out where they said that Rafale with its current sensors can't take on F-35?
EDIT: Found this :
He is french, obviously he will consider french militry in its current form as potent.
French are specifically developing Rafake F5 to counter 5th gen threats. Rafale, as of now, doesn't have sensors to detect and attack F-35 at BVR distance.
Just because they're trying to develope does not mean it can.
I will always bet on the group of low experienced piolets with 5th gen than a group of experienced piolets with Rafale F5.
Su-57 is so potent that Russia don't use it againt Ukraine. strange isn't it?
a BS source.
And what about OSF ?
OSF is a stealthy detector, very potent on huge IR trace of, for exemple, F-35.