Indian Automotive Sector

It seems the new Norton 1200c V4 engines are built in India by TVS, watch from 12:00 onwards:


Makes sense... I remember reading (probably in Autocar India) about somebody saying they saw large 4-cylinder mills under production during a TVS factory tour.

Good on TVS for producing proper superbike engines in India! The experience of working on them will be invaluable.

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Tata needs to get rid of Jaguar while retaining LR. It is going to be difficult, yet they will need to find a solution.
 
RankExport Destination Export ValueShare in Total Exports
1South Africa $1.50 bn 16.6%
2Saudi Arabia $1.26 bn13.9%
3Mexico$1.12 bn12.4%
4Japan$0.81 bn9.0%
5UAE$0.48 bn5.3%
6Chile$0.28 bn3.1%
7Spain$0.27 bn3.0%
8Peru$0.25 bn2.8%
9Sri Lanka$0.21 bn2.3%
10UK$0.17 bn1.9%
Others$2.69 bn29.8%
Total$9.00 bn100%
 
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India is set to approve a roughly $370 million investment from Horse Powertrain Ltd., a hybrid-engine venture backed by China’s Zhejiang Geely Holding Group Co., that would mark one of the biggest manufacturing investments from a Chinese-linked company in years.

The deal would enable Horse Powertrain, whose other major shareholder is Renault SA, to invest in the French carmaker’s manufacturing operations in India, according to people familiar with the matter. Horse intends to build advanced hybrid powertrains and engines in the country, said the people, who asked not to be identified discussing private deliberations.

The clearance would be one of the first since India relaxed rules in March for investments from bordering countries to support local manufacturing — a move aimed primarily at China.

The last time a major Chinese automaker invested in India was in 2017, when state-owned SAIC Motor Corp. bought General Motors Co.’s plant to launch the MG Motor brand in the country. That business was subsequently restructured and is now majority owned by Indian shareholders, led by JSW Group.

Horse Powertrain was created in 2024 as an equal joint venture between Geely and Renault, and Saudi Aramco subsequently took a 10% stake in the company. Geely and Renault now each own 45% of the London-headquartered business, which has 18 plants globally and around 19,000 employees, according to its website.

The company is likely to make its India investment in stages, beginning with Renault’s Chennai plant in southern India. Horse will manufacture strong-hybrid powertrains, which combine a traditional internal combustion engine with high-capacity electric motors and a battery, for Nissan and Renault vehicles sold in India, said the people familiar with the matter. Renault is the biggest shareholder of Japan’s Nissan Motor Co. and manufactures cars for it at its South India factory.

Renault is expected to launch a Duster sport utility vehicle in India later this year powered by Horse, which is also in preliminary discussions about supplying its powertrains to other automakers, the people said.

“India is an important market for Horse Powertrain,” the company said in a statement to Bloomberg News. “We can confirm that we have submitted an application to the Indian authorities to have the right to invest in India and are following the official process. We are expecting a formal decision soon.”
India has become an increasingly important manufacturing hub for global automakers seeking to diversify supply chains and tap growing domestic demand. Yet large investments involving Chinese entities have been rare since New Delhi tightened foreign investment rules after border tensions with China in 2020. India last year said it would continue to restrict Chinese EV maker BYD Co.’s market access.

Horse’s entry into India also highlights the growing importance of hybrid vehicles in the world’s most populous country. Automakers are increasingly offering gasoline-electric models as consumers seek better fuel economy, while electric vehicle adoption remains gradual.

Renault and Nissan are reworking their India strategy after years of modest market share, betting on sport utility vehicles and localized manufacturing to expand their presence in one of the world’s fastest-growing auto markets. The Horse investment is expected to deepen local sourcing of advanced powertrain technology while reducing reliance on imports.
 

I've been following the KTM-Bajaj story for a while and I'm glad to see KTM under new Indian ownership is not giving up on MotoGP!

After the acquisition, there was concern that Bajaj might decide to cut some of the motorsports divisions loose (or sell them to CFMoto/China) in order to trim losses in the core business. But racing is an important proving ground for new, cutting-edge technology, not to mention an advertisement opportunity like no other!

It's great if Bajaj appreciates that & finds value in it.

Owning a MotoGP team (and one capable of building its own bikes & engines) is a privilege not enjoyed by many, and now that they've got it there's really no point in throwing it away to save a few millions. Bajaj is one of the biggest & most valuable two-wheeler enterprises in the world, very much capable of taking the long view on things and it's good to see they're acting like it!

 
The policy to make E20 compulsory fuel option is absolutely horrible & it's giving Cars & bikes a slow death.

Other countries offer a choice why govt is forcing E20 as only option....?

Most Indian vehicles aren't E20 ready ..who pays for the damage ?

Lower mileage ..high fuel costs ..who is accountable..?

The original plan for E20 was 2030 & it was fast tracked to 2025 ...why ?..to make rapid billionaires ig.

Btw who the hell is Nitin Gadkari to sign the ethanol regulations file ?
Why don't he behave well as MORTH and focus on his own work which is sinking in potholes of expressways.
 
The policy to make E20 compulsory fuel option is absolutely horrible & it's giving Cars & bikes a slow death.

Other countries offer a choice why govt is forcing E20 as only option....?

Most Indian vehicles aren't E20 ready ..who pays for the damage ?

Lower mileage ..high fuel costs ..who is accountable..?

The original plan for E20 was 2030 & it was fast tracked to 2025 ...why ?..to make rapid billionaires ig.

Btw who the hell is Nitin Gadkari to sign the ethanol regulations file ?
Why don't he behave well as MORTH and focus on his own work which is sinking in potholes of expressways.
I think its a carrot and stick approach to get Indians to change their cars to electric cars. Carrot by offering subsidies to electric cars and no road tax and what not and stick by drastically accelerating E20 transition so that older cars slowly start dying anyway. With of course the usual corruption on the side
 
I think its a carrot and stick approach to get Indians to change their cars to electric cars. Carrot by offering subsidies to electric cars and no road tax and what not and stick by drastically accelerating E20 transition so that older cars slowly start dying anyway. With of course the usual corruption on the side
indians cant even complaint about that whoever does has been labelled as antinational.
And now they started filing FIR on people for raising their voices against E20 fuel....seriously wth 🤷‍♂️

petroleum puri & nitin gadbadi defending this policy publicly by giving illogical rubbish statements.

idk when we will get rid of these bunch of clowns who runs the country.
 
I think its a carrot and stick approach to get Indians to change their cars to electric cars. Carrot by offering subsidies to electric cars and no road tax and what not and stick by drastically accelerating E20 transition so that older cars slowly start dying anyway. With of course the usual corruption on the side
Electric vehicles are trash;
they’re going to be finished soon.
 
My expectations were low but holy *censored*. i really thought you were rage-baiting but Im starting to think your just dumb.
It's better if you talk about other military topics.

I actually work in this industry in China—we just sell this junk to fools to make money off them.
Though feel free to buy a few more e-bikes.


The whole EV scene is just a backward industrial country thinking it can leapfrog the competition, only to shoot itself in the foot.
You can't even win on a straight track, yet you expect to overtake on a turn? Pathetic

When it comes to EVs, whatever the Indians have tried, the Chinese have definitely tried too. And what the Indians haven't tried, the Chinese have still done anyway.
I'm just telling you the final verdict of the whole process
 
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It's better if you talk about other military topics.

I actually work in this industry in China—we just sell this junk to fools to make money off them.
Though feel free to buy a few more e-bikes.


The whole EV scene is just a backward industrial country thinking it can leapfrog the competition, only to shoot itself in the foot.
You can't even win on a straight track, yet you expect to overtake on a turn? Pathetic

When it comes to EVs, whatever the Indians have tried, the Chinese have definitely tried too. And what the Indians haven't tried, the Chinese have still done anyway.
I'm just telling you the final verdict of the whole process
Over the past year, the situation for electric vehicle companies in China has taken a nosedive; businesses are going under every month, and there are no more than three vehicle manufacturers left that are actually turning a profit. Heh.

Only when subsidies end and battery lifespans consistently reach six years will we see who has been "swimming naked" [i.e., who was only surviving due to artificial support].
If any country isn't afraid of a disaster, then by all means, follow China's example.

I’m sure they’ll make EVs better than China does—*chuckle*.
I also believe their government’s decision-making, determination, and use of police batons to push EVs are even more intense than China’s.
-------(In China’s major cities, you can easily get a license plate for an EV, whereas if you buy a gas-powered car, you likely have to wait in a lottery queue for 3–5 years; plus, you can only drive on specific days—Mon/Wed/Fri or Tue/Thu/Sat—and getting caught driving on the wrong day results in a $30 fine.and EV As well as massive subsidies, free land and factory facilities, and exemptions from purchase tax and road maintenance fees.Mandates to purchase electric vehicles have been imposed on government agencies, state-owned enterprises, taxi companies, and bus operators; State-owned enterprises, highway authorities, and municipal management departments are leveraging fiscal resources and legislation to aggressively deploy charging piles and battery-swapping stations.;Hainan Province has even announced a ban on internal combustion engine vehicles on its roads by 2030.)

EV This piece of junk technology actually predates the internal combustion engine by decades; historically, it has been wiped out by gas-powered cars multiple times, yet it’s still labeled "new energy" today.

It was discarded for being utter garbage—> then dug up by unscrupulous capital to scam money—> rebranded as fxxxcking "new energy"—> and discarded all over again.

Take a good look at yourself—there is only one Elon Musk in the world.
He certainly knows how to play the game, but on this particular track, there is no room for anyone else to compete with him.

Trump, Xi Jinping, Putin, Modi, Queen Elizabeth—
How come we never see them using electric vehicles when they go out or attend military parades?
Could it be because they lack the necessary understanding?

The core issue is that the product itself is garbage—it’s a dead end.


Countries like China harbor the delusion that they can reach the top-tier status of nations like Japan and Germany without making substantive capital investments or industrial upgrades—such as improving material strength and machining precision—simply by relying on run-of-the-mill batteries and styling the car bodywork to look like a Porsche.
It is nothing but self-deception.A dog draped in a tiger's skin is still a dog.
 
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Made-in-India 2026 Norton Atlas reviews are out...



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Looks good! I wasn't very sold on the design of this bike back at the unveiling during last EICMA expo, but I must say, it's certainly growing on me. I do love the clean lines. And it's great to hear that the engine, a 585 cc P-twin, is a solid piece of engineering!

As I mentioned before, the engines of all new Nortons (including the 1200 cc V4 on the Manx) are now made in India by TVS, Norton's new parent. In the case of the Atlas/Atlas GT though, not just the engine but the entire bike is Indian-made, including components like the BYBRE brakes (Brembo's affordable sub-brand, primarily manufactured in India) and TVS EUROGRIP tyres, among others.
 
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