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The important question everyone could muse on is " would you operate a manned or unmanned platform over contested enemy airspace during difficult times "

As long as it is not detected or killed, anything can be operated over enemy territory. Let's not forget the Mig-25s we had flying over Pakistan.

Unrelated , RAW operated unarmed Predators on loan didn't they ? , I forget I read somewhere , MRO facility with the same gave out the indications.

We are yet to sign our first set of contracts for the Guardian drones. We only operate Israeli drones as of now.

Also related, Rustom 2 elint, esm, comjam sensors is kind of similar to Netra aewcs and those sensors came from where ?

I don't think Rustom 2's avionics is public yet. The goal is to indigenise as much as possible. So DRDO and some private companies.
 
it's like you are going to fight the last Indian till the last functioning brain cell. o_O.

It's either a satellite, a plane(not likely) or a sophisticated drone with sensors like a global hawk (not unlikely either until we loaned it from someone). My wildest guess is its something between a satellite and a drone which floats high enough and cant be shot down yet. Maybe a weather balloon:p
 
it's like you are going to fight the last Indian till the last functioning brain cell. o_O.

It's either a satellite, a plane(not likely) or a sophisticated drone with sensors like a global hawk (not unlikely either until we loaned it from someone). My wildest guess is its something between a satellite and a drone which floats high enough and cant be shot down yet. Maybe a weather balloon:p


Lets move on, shall we?
 
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Did you mean this by fighting till last Pakstani? @Falcon

Oh, have answered you on the other thread.

But yes, one of the main components, others will come from the society itself. As posted in the aftermath of the Feb 14th Terror Attack against our troops, the aim, if you recall, was always to impose costs on Pakistan - militarily and economically.


We are doing both sir, time to get a tub of popcorn out and watch the fun.
 
I have an unconfirmed news of a rather strange nature.

It seems that the Pakistanis were told over a 'friendly chat' by 'well wishers' that should Pakistan choose to expand conflict with India, Nuclear option was a no go without Pakistan being bombed back to stone-age and then some.

No clue who said that, but multiple 'well wishers' of Pakistan told it to keep its 'exploits' limited to Social Media.

With the emerging situation, and expectation of increased Indian pressure along LC come May, and a deterioration in their Internal Security environment, the economic costs will rise exponentially. The interesting question, then, that comes to fore is 'what are Pakistan's option'?

Should it continue to play a holding game that it seems may only increase its costs or should it try to do something to make it an India-Pakistan affair?

I leave it to members to speculate on this aspect now.
 
I have an unconfirmed news of a rather strange nature.

It seems that the Pakistanis were told over a 'friendly chat' by 'well wishers' that should Pakistan choose to expand conflict with India, Nuclear option was a no go without Pakistan being bombed back to stone-age and then some.

No clue who said that, but multiple 'well wishers' of Pakistan told it to keep its 'exploits' limited to Social Media.

With the emerging situation, and expectation of increased Indian pressure along LC come May, and a deterioration in their Internal Security environment, the economic costs will rise exponentially. The interesting question, then, that comes to fore is 'what are Pakistan's option'?

Should it continue to play a holding game that it seems may only increase its costs or should it try to do something to make it an India-Pakistan affair?

I leave it to members to speculate on this aspect now.

They don’t care about deteriorating economic situation
 
it's like you are going to fight the last Indian till the last functioning brain cell. o_O.

It's either a satellite, a plane(not likely) or a sophisticated drone with sensors like a global hawk (not unlikely either until we loaned it from someone). My wildest guess is its something between a satellite and a drone which floats high enough and cant be shot down yet. Maybe a weather balloon:p

Looks like, now you have given up :confused::confused:
 
I have an unconfirmed news of a rather strange nature.

It seems that the Pakistanis were told over a 'friendly chat' by 'well wishers' that should Pakistan choose to expand conflict with India, Nuclear option was a no go without Pakistan being bombed back to stone-age and then some.

No clue who said that, but multiple 'well wishers' of Pakistan told it to keep its 'exploits' limited to Social Media.

With the emerging situation, and expectation of increased Indian pressure along LC come May, and a deterioration in their Internal Security environment, the economic costs will rise exponentially. The interesting question, then, that comes to fore is 'what are Pakistan's option'?

Should it continue to play a holding game that it seems may only increase its costs or should it try to do something to make it an India-Pakistan affair?

I leave it to members to speculate on this aspect now.

As pressure builds up from inside on economy, price control, timaatar supply, forex, fuel prices - revolt from Sindh, Baloch, Pakhtunkhwa, and POK will start as a social disturbance and will manifest in to a full fledged internal war against the establishment. That will be the time for the kill for India from LOC as well as from south Afganistan. Pakistan very well knows this fate and that it is very much unavoidable.
 
If you see the twitter chatter on Pakistani side. PTI seems to have lost the plot completely. PML-N and PPP are both now waiting for the implosion that will erode any remaining support PTI has. They will wait for the disaster and then come to pick the pieces based on Public mood. Pak Army is not keen on either of the two returning to power. They cannot take power openly as it exposes them to international pressure when the economy is down the drain.

Within the next 18 months, Pakistan will either swap debt for infrastructure with China and restructure its debt or (more likely) do a back door deal with China and cede more control. China is not giving any more funds. The last tranche was a $ 2 Billion "Commercial" loan - read it as normal rate of interest loan. Its loans like these that broke Pakistan's back. Either way - fun times ahead.

Most likely Pakistan will sell part of POK GB to China and then have China fight the war for them with India.
 
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Most likely Pakistan will sell part of POK GB to China and then have China fight the war for them with India.

I feel the possibility of at least one of these 3 scenarios is very high in the near future: 1) Major increase in Chinese troop presence on Pakee soil 2) Ceding of Pakee territory to China 3) Transfer of serious firepower by China to Pakistan

And at that point, India will have to be ready to fight a limited conflict no matter what; or the tables could be turned for a seriously long time, if not forever.
 
I have an unconfirmed news of a rather strange nature.

It seems that the Pakistanis were told over a 'friendly chat' by 'well wishers' that should Pakistan choose to expand conflict with India, Nuclear option was a no go without Pakistan being bombed back to stone-age and then some.

And the ones sending Pak into the history books would be the said well wisher or India?
 
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I have an unconfirmed news of a rather strange nature.

It seems that the Pakistanis were told over a 'friendly chat' by 'well wishers' that should Pakistan choose to expand conflict with India, Nuclear option was a no go without Pakistan being bombed back to stone-age and then some.

No clue who said that, but multiple 'well wishers' of Pakistan told it to keep its 'exploits' limited to Social Media.

With the emerging situation, and expectation of increased Indian pressure along LC come May, and a deterioration in their Internal Security environment, the economic costs will rise exponentially. The interesting question, then, that comes to fore is 'what are Pakistan's option'?

Should it continue to play a holding game that it seems may only increase its costs or should it try to do something to make it an India-Pakistan affair?

I leave it to members to speculate on this aspect now.

As long as Americans , Chinese and Saudis
Have Some Use for Pakistan , they will
Protect it and Support it
 
I feel the possibility of at least one of these 3 scenarios is very high in the near future: 1) Major increase in Chinese troop presence on Pakee soil 2) Ceding of Pakee territory to China 3) Transfer of serious firepower by China to Pakistan
Well if they sell GB to China, China is going to experience first hand what US had to in Afghanistan. It will be a fun game. Pump Kashmiri with propaganda and dump it on Chinese. Bonus point, for six months the entire damn area is extremely inaccessible and not to mention the main road can have some 'winter accidents'.

Kashmir will become China's Afghanistan. And who know, China will get her own version of 9/11. May be 8/8 ? Given 8 is lucky number in China.
 
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