don't hold your breath. They are relevant because they are true leaders of their people. And you don't need a position to lead. And before people here start dissing them, all three in question, Abdulla, his son and Mehbooba are the best things India could have had. While people in the valley were baying for blood, this gang managed the impossible- win their elections and still maintain a balanced relationship with India. No one in the valley had the guts to come in front of cameras and claim that India is secular because Hindus are the most secular people in the world- farooq Abdulla did when BJP was winning all around. He has every right to be heart broken. It is important for us to let him know that our vision is not to take the unique identity of Kashmir but that we have a compelling way forward. India is not a country where you can pound people into accepting authority.
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don't hold your breath. They are relevant because they are true leaders of their people. And you don't need a position to lead. And before people here start dissing them, all three in question, Abdulla, his son and Mehbooba are the best things India could have had. While people in the valley were baying for blood, this gang managed the impossible- win their elections and still maintain a balanced relationship with India. No one in the valley had the guts to come in front of cameras and claim that India is secular because Hindus are the most secular people in the world- farooq Abdulla did when BJP was winning all around. He has every right to be heart broken. It is important for us to let him know that our vision is not to take the unique identity of Kashmir but that we have a compelling way forward. India is not a country where you can pound people into accepting authority.
Ghoofra's propaganda for years made Pak awam believe PA can take on action against India and will prevail .Hence awam is demanding and PA is shaking behind thinking what to do. Mostly likely PA will plan very similar like 27th Feb. Throw some night blind Raptor H4 from well behind the LC and get away.will drop purposefully away from Indian army installation.Pakistan also not sure whether bomb will explode or not.Ghoofra will pick up the propaganda from there. Low cost proxy through Jihadi will go on as its.India needs to decide how far it wants to go. It did not do anything on 27th.Remember Integrating Kashmir is the first part. But getting over Pak is the most important as well.
Its not what happened in present they are supposedly worried of, but delusions of genocide, demographic changes, invasion that causing so much pain in their behinds.
The fallacy in your argument can be described thus - When Sheikh Abdullah insisted on autonomy post Maharaja Hari Singh's signing the Instrument of Accession with the then GoI and appointing Sheikh Abdullah as the Prime Minister of the state of J&K, Dr Ambedkar told him in no uncertain terms that the IA weren't there to sacrifice their lives so that J&K became an independent entity.
Sheikh Abdullah being the typical Kashmiri ( more crafty as compared to thr Pashtuns who're more renowned for brawn than brains) always harboured notions of being a sovereign in an independent J&K.He did this by playing India & against Pakistan by convincing Nehru that he was the best person to be an emissary between Islamabad & Delhi.
Nehru understood his game a bit late (?) But acted on it in 1953 ( See Kashmir Conspiracy Case where in Sheikh Abdullah & his cohorts actively collobarated with the Pakistani establishment to overthrow Indian rule in J&K.Also refer to the Plebiscite Front) , wherein he got Karan Singh the then Sadr e Riyasat to dismiss Sheikh Abdullah and have him jailed. Sheikh Abdullah remained incarcerated for 11 years till Nehru decided to suspend the trial under the Kashmir Conspiracy Case and withdraw all charges, accepting Sheikh Abdullah's initial suggestions of playing emissary between Ayub Khan's government in Pakistan and Pt. Nehru's in India. The details of what exactly were discussed & agreed upon remains a mystery for Nehru passed away during SA's visit to Islamabad and he cut short his visit to return to Delhi to attend Nehru's funeral.
Shortly after that the 1965 war followed with Sheikh Abdullah being incarcerated once more till 1968 and exiled from Kashmir in 1971 with the banning of the Plebiscite Front. After India aided the creation of Bangladesh in 1971 & the Shimla accord , SA came to the conclusion that his dream of being a sovereign in an independent J&K was over and initiated talks with IG culminating in the IG SA accord. Wikipedia is a good primer for the history of all these developments, in case you're interested.
The salient lessons drawn from this is any party assuming power in Srinagar knew they were under Delhi's eye. By signing the accord with IG, SA was viewed as compromised by a section of the population in J&K notably the JeI in J&K ( which is headed by Syed Geelani now & whose military arm is the HeM) .
Now, SA being the unquestioned leader of the Kashmiris could well have fostered the feelings of amity towards the Indian Republic and aided reconciliation and assimilation within it since 1948. Instead, he promoted seccessionism first covertly & then in a semi overt manner thus alienating the populace in Kashmir to the extent that when he was released in 1974 & state elections returned the NC to power, the section headed by the JeI became his singular biggest threat. This opened up a new opportunity for SA who when in Delhi pretended to be their man in Srinagar and in Srinagar pretended to be with the Kashmiris.
That's the Genesis of the Kashmir insurgency and subsequent generations of the Abdullahs & Muftis have all borrowed a leaf from Sheikh Abdullah's playbook.The Hurriyat is just another variation of the Abdullahs & Saeeds family. They're all of one color. It's just the shade of green which is different.
Ladakhis of all religion welcome the step to make Ladakh an UT.
I completely agree that these leaders are vital for nation even now. If you spare a leadership void, radicles will fill it. Even at the hight of militancy in the 90s, they succeed in setting up a elected government which was and still is very important for Indian narrative of Kashmir.
I'm sure Doval is not stupid not to know that, now we do need to get them onboard with the legislative assembly of UT
let's also remember they could have been even more rich and more powerful if they had openly allied with Pakistan. Assume they had been exiled, they'd have been kept as kings in islamabad- a former CM/ daughter of Abdulla asking kashmiris to fight India- a propoganda coup of enormous proportions. They knew that would have been bad for the Kashmiris. That shows they are not degenerate as several people claim.
Frankly, you'd see a Development council for the Jammu region soon enough and Kashmir will continue to languish. With the amount of radicalization they've undergone, the current leadership in the Abdullahs and Saeeds weren't contributing anything of sunstance to either Delhi or to the state of J&K but merely prolonging the agony and destabilizing the growth of JAMMU & Ladakh. That's why the entire old order had to go and the old architecture of the system had to make way for the new.
Educate yourself of history of the Abdullahs, Muftis and Hurriyat. This is a prerequisite before you shout against us for deracinating these rakshas.
There will be no war.right now,we aren't in a position to fight a war.you can hear war drama on pakistani channels but in reality,we are only watching situation of Jammu and nothing else.we want you not to kill locals in your kashmir.we are busy on afghan border.solution to afghan problem is very near.they will sign deal on August 13. First we have to eliminate ttp.they attack us everyday.right now,we are using our mind and not our heart and war is useless in this situation.
What's up with congress ?? I mean make up your mind, do you support it or not.
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You mean you're broke now but you'd wage war once you have enough in the bank.That's just about right. After all, one can't think and imagine situations beyond ones intellect.Then when I question your intellect and say you're fit for menial jobs , I wonder why do you sound offended.
What a great mind.i respect your opinion.you care about them and it looks great.thanks.
They are my views.i have no idea about my mental condition.why I lie here? Yes I was sad after your decision but you will decide how to treat kashmiri people and not us.it is your job sir.i was very sad because I am also facing problems( I mean domestic problems). I don't believe in false bravado.against 8lakh indian soldiers,we can't fight a war.it is useless.
Relax. By you I didn't mean you personally but your people. I don't know you. How can I pass judgement on you. But I think I've a fair idea about your people based on extensive interaction with them some time ago.