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Apart from the char-sau-bees Pakistanis, the real threats today are just J-10s, J-11BGs, J-16s, and J-20s. They come up to about 1200 jets. Out of that, the WS-15 equipped J-20s have started only from this year. The rest of the Chinese fleet is quite useless due to the Tibetan wall or due to obsolescence.

Today, only 50-60 J-10Cs and 14 J-20s are deployed against India in Tibet. And there are another 100-200 jets elsewhere. It's not 700. You are counting the stuff deployed closer to Mongolia and Central Asia. Most of their 4th gen and higher are deployed in the plains to the east.

And we don't need one jet for every one of theirs. Fighters protect airspace, so numbers are determined by the size of the airspace and how many jets you might lose protecting it. We just need 100 jets each on both sides for air defense, the rest are for attrition replacements and other roles.
I don't know from where you got the 1200 jets number for China & WS15 equipping from 2026 data. These datas are not correct as per my knowledge & information.

Anyway, If you consider the security threat perceptions of China , they've at present very negligible threats from its north, west & south in air domain EXCEPT INDIA. The entire deployment of it's assets in these region can be deployed against India at a time if they want. So the number 700 is not exaggeration but realistic. Threat perceptions don't work on minor skirmish & short term threat negotiations. These work on log term sustainability.

When China will attack ( which is certain to happen) Taiwan , the maximum deployment apart from the war front will be on our side to deter us from any plan against their actions.

Yes ,Our airspace is smaller than Chinese airspace. But the actual thing is WHO HAS MORE CONTESTED AIRSPACE. China is empowering Pakistan & now even Bangladesh ( as per latest news) to increase area of our contested airspace along with Chinese border.

One to one platform deployment is not possible for us , especially against China, as of next 20 to 30 years and that's reality. But we can't deny the minimum deterrence envelope. So, a 60 to 65 squadron strength is an undeniable reality.

Along with that we've to get technological & manufacturing parity with China too in quick time. Because a war/ conflict is all about sustainable resource management. Pakistan is a no match for us , but it is ofcourse a threat to be countered.
 
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I don't know from where you got the 1200 jets number for China & WS15 equipping from 2026 data. These datas are not correct as per my knowledge & information.

Anyway, If you consider the security threat perceptions of China , they've at present very negligible threats from its north, west & south in air domain EXCEPT INDIA. The entire deployment of it's assets in these region can be deployed against India at a time if they want. So the number 700 is not exaggeration but realistic. Threat perceptions don't work on minor skirmish & short term threat negotiations. These work on log term sustainability.

When China will attack ( which is certain to happen) Taiwan , the maximum deployment apart from the war front will be on our side to deter us from any plan against their actions.

Yes ,Our airspace is smaller than Chinese airspace. But the actual thing is WHO HAS MORE CONTESTED AIRSPACE. China is empowering Pakistan & now even Bangladesh ( as per latest news) to increase area of our contested airspace along with Chinese border.

One to one platform deployment is not possible for us , especially against China, as of next 20 to 30 years and that's reality. But we can't deny the minimum deterrence envelope. So, a 60 to 65 squadron strength is an undeniable reality.

Along with that we've to get technological & manufacturing parity with China too in quick time. Because a war/ conflict is all about sustainable resource management. Pakistan is a no match for us , but it is ofcourse a threat to be countered.
I believe that, for china, we need mostly air superiority jets(like 5th gen amca/su57)

For neutralizing their ground assets like radars , sam systems or rocket artillary, a better option will be ghatak type ucav

China and ccp are not stupid. They wont attack us with half preparation like trump

So i expect the attack not before 2035 atleast(full scale) , small skirmish can happen to check the water and plan their strategy

So according to my analysis, we need atleast 2-3 squadrons of 5th gen dedicated for china and some stealth ucavs too

So 50 manned squardan is more than enough. What we need is atleast 10 squadrons ghatak ucav who can deep pentrate china and remove their long range rocket artillary (which are in huge numbers)
 
I believe that, for china, we need mostly air superiority jets(like 5th gen amca/su57)

For neutralizing their ground assets like radars , sam systems or rocket artillary, a better option will be ghatak type ucav

China and ccp are not stupid. They wont attack us with half preparation like trump

So i expect the attack not before 2035 atleast(full scale) , small skirmish can happen to check the water and plan their strategy

So according to my analysis, we need atleast 2-3 squadrons of 5th gen dedicated for china and some stealth ucavs too

So 50 manned squardan is more than enough. What we need is atleast 10 squadrons ghatak ucav who can deep pentrate china and remove their long range rocket artillary (which are in huge numbers)
To be honest, any possible conflict in between India and China will see limited Air confrontation. These two nations are so close in proximity that ground launch missiles will have the majority in war dynamics.

Overall to deter china in northern, eastern & western ( through pakistan) we've to gain an absolute dominance in Malacca straight & Bay of Bengal region. China fears loss of money more than any other. They'll not involve in a potential conflict with a big power like India if there is a certain huge economic loss. For that, the Great Nicobar Project is very essential.

And yes I agree that we need air superiority fighters of 5th and next generations. Along with that we've to surpass china in BVRAAM in both quality, accuracy, guidance system & range. For that , Astra MK2 & Gandiva are key. Also I think an indigenous bigger missile with rocket motor with range of 450 + km is required to destroy the AWACS, Refuellers, ISTAR aircrafts from very very long range.
 
I don't know from where you got the 1200 jets number for China & WS15 equipping from 2026 data. These datas are not correct as per my knowledge & information.

250+ J-10C, 350-400 J-16, 300-400 J-20, and 100 J-11BG. That's 1200 jets.

Everything else they have are just Su-27SK, J-8, J-10A/B, J-11A/B, JH-7/A, Su-35, and Su-30MKK. That's about 800 more jets.

J-20 with WS-15 saw first serial deliveries in 2025.

Anyway, If you consider the security threat perceptions of China , they've at present very negligible threats from its north, west & south in air domain EXCEPT INDIA. The entire deployment of it's assets in these region can be deployed against India at a time if they want. So the number 700 is not exaggeration but realistic. Threat perceptions don't work on minor skirmish & short term threat negotiations. These work on log term sustainability.

When China will attack ( which is certain to happen) Taiwan , the maximum deployment apart from the war front will be on our side to deter us from any plan against their actions.

Yes ,Our airspace is smaller than Chinese airspace. But the actual thing is WHO HAS MORE CONTESTED AIRSPACE. China is empowering Pakistan & now even Bangladesh ( as per latest news) to increase area of our contested airspace along with Chinese border.

One to one platform deployment is not possible for us , especially against China, as of next 20 to 30 years and that's reality. But we can't deny the minimum deterrence envelope. So, a 60 to 65 squadron strength is an undeniable reality.

Along with that we've to get technological & manufacturing parity with China too in quick time. Because a war/ conflict is all about sustainable resource management. Pakistan is a no match for us , but it is ofcourse a threat to be countered.

They don't have air bases to operate from against India. Only 6 in Tibet. And a handful more in adjoining provinces. Most of their main bases are far away. They have smaller airfields that can support air defense missions, but that's about it.

The day they decide to become a threat, they will start building air bases.
 
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To be honest, any possible conflict in between India and China will see limited Air confrontation. These two nations are so close in proximity that ground launch missiles will have the majority in war dynamics.

Overall to deter china in northern, eastern & western ( through pakistan) we've to gain an absolute dominance in Malacca straight & Bay of Bengal region. China fears loss of money more than any other. They'll not involve in a potential conflict with a big power like India if there is a certain huge economic loss. For that, the Great Nicobar Project is very essential.

And yes I agree that we need air superiority fighters of 5th and next generations. Along with that we've to surpass china in BVRAAM in both quality, accuracy, guidance system & range. For that , Astra MK2 & Gandiva are key. Also I think an indigenous bigger missile with rocket motor with range of 450 + km is required to destroy the AWACS, Refuellers, ISTAR aircrafts from very very long range.
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We also need to work on variable thrust solid motor missiles.

Astra mk2 is fine for pakistan but not for china

And For economic loss,

-> in any conflict, a good leader is ready to loose temporarily if it can defeat its enemy and get a much better deal

->> Economic loss without militry loss by a big country(i) against another(c) is not going to work, as the country C will then try to fully defeat the country I qnd them get favourable deal and will easily cover every penny it spend/loose due to war

So no , Economic blocked of china is not going to work if we can not defeat them, as the profit defeat a large country far exceeded the temporary looses china will have to face during the war
 
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We also need to work on variable thrust solid motor missiles.

Astra mk2 is fine for pakistan but not for china

And For economic loss,

-> in any conflict, a good leader is ready to loose temporarily if it can defeat its enemy and get a much better deal

->> Economic loss without militry loss by a big country(i) against another(c) is not going to work, as the country C will then try to fully defeat the country I qnd them get favourable deal and will easily cover every penny it spend/loose due to war

So no , Economic blocked of china is not going to work if we can not defeat them, as the profit defeat a large country far exceeded the temporary looses china will have to face during the war
What do you mean by defeating the adversary ? Is it absolute defeat by overpowering in long term ? Or, A short-term moral victory over the adversary by putting some sudden loss on them ?
Look , we've to strengthen ourselves along with acknowledging the ground reality. An absolute victory by fully over powering the bigger adversary in long term is not inside the capability envelope for us atleast for next 25 to 30 years.
But, we can match or, even exceed them ( if we want ) in technological & strategic upper hand.
As of now , we've to treat our western adversary just as the inferior western extension of our bigger adversary. So, potentially we've only one adversary to counter in next decades, not two.
Following are the major goals for us to achieve in near future :
(1) We've to create an undisputed continuous real-time accurate surveillance system on our adversary independently through a robust indigenous navigation system,
(2) Strengthening our capabilities around the strategic choke points of our adversary in geo-political domain,
(3) Independent , indigenous, domestic connectivity (internet) far from ANY FOREIGN ACCESS (not even for our strategic allies ) and domestic safe data protection system,
(4) Ensuring Energy security through all means possible (keeping in mind any future action from adversary),
(5) Investing more on strategic assets ( SSN, SSBN, stealth aerial systems, hypersonic systems, quantum communication, high-end indigenous electronics ecosystem , next gen powerplant development) and proper protection of them from intelligence of Adversary,
(6) Now in active military domain we've to upscale the use of automation and robotics,
(7) After all these, we need to establish RANGE- DENIAL & Aerial superiority with better missile systems & unmanned systems, because we know it'll be difficult to match the bigger adversary in numbers for atleast next 25 - 30 years. Though we need to achieve minimum capability envelope of 65 squadrons through Tejas Mk2 & AMCA.

Unfortunately, we've some internal foreign agents sitting in different domains trying to prevent such progress through various means. But fortunately, with internet , social media and availability of more datas we can detect and understand these moles easily now than previous.

The price that our adversary should pay for putting any offensive ( either, 'ACTIVE' through direct or, indirect military actions OR, 'PASSIVE' through information warfare/ sanctions) action should be accordingly, even reaching the limit of destruction, destabilization and division of the adversary's homeland & strategic assets.
 
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What do you mean by defeating the adversary ? Is it absolute defeat by overpowering in long term ? Or, A short-term moral victory over the adversary by putting some sudden loss on them ?
Look , we've to strengthen ourselves along with acknowledging the ground reality. An absolute victory by fully over powering the bigger adversary in long term is not inside the capability envelope for us atleast for next 25 to 30 years.
But, we can match or, even exceed them ( if we want ) in technological & strategic upper hand.
As of now , we've to treat our western adversary just as the inferior western extension of our bigger adversary. So, potentially we've only one adversary to counter in next decades, not two.
Following are the major goals for us to achieve in near future :
(1) We've to create an undisputed continuous real-time accurate surveillance system on our adversary independently through a robust indigenous navigation system,
(2) Strengthening our capabilities around the strategic choke points of our adversary in geo-political domain,
(3) Independent , indigenous, domestic connectivity (internet) far from ANY FOREIGN ACCESS (not even for our strategic allies ) and domestic safe data protection system,
(4) Ensuring Energy security through all means possible (keeping in mind any future action from adversary),
(5) Investing more on strategic assets ( SSN, SSBN, stealth aerial systems, hypersonic systems, quantum communication, high-end indigenous electronics ecosystem , next gen powerplant development) and proper protection of them from intelligence of Adversary,
(6) Now in active military domain we've to upscale the use of automation and robotics,
(7) After all these, we need to establish RANGE- DENIAL & Aerial superiority with better missile systems & unmanned systems, because we know it'll be difficult to match the bigger adversary in numbers for atleast next 25 - 30 years. Though we need to achieve minimum capability envelope of 65 squadrons through Tejas Mk2 & AMCA.

Unfortunately, we've some internal foreign agents sitting in different domains trying to prevent such progress through various means. But fortunately, with internet , social media and availability of more datas we can detect and understand these moles easily now than previous.

The price that our adversary should pay for putting any offensive ( either, 'ACTIVE' through direct or, indirect military actions OR, 'PASSIVE' through information warfare/ sanctions) action should be accordingly, even reaching the limit of destruction, destabilization and division of the adversary's homeland & strategic assets.
Actually i was talking about china absolutely totally defeating us.

Total defeat can be like opium war or ww1 for germany where the the loosing side has to losse some territory and economic constraints imposed by winning side in their favour.

Context: If china ever feels(or come to conclusion) that, they can totally defeat india, then they wont mind some economic loss due to malacca strait blocked.

Hence we always need to maintain a credible conventional deterrence so that china never have a decisive superiority.

And no, nuclear deterrence wont work, what if china is invading and conquering more and more, and indian militry is in no position to stop or reconquare it, in that case what will Indian govt do ?

1) launch nuclear weapon againt china(though we have no first use policy)
2) accept defeat and cede the himalyan territories and give unrestricted access to chinease companies

Nuclear deterrence is very complex, it need to first draw a nuclear red line, will lossing some less inhabited territories and economic freedom to china is that nuclear red line ?
Will indian govt ready to let 140-5(max population of himalayn territories) crore to die in nuclear war ?

Nuclear weapon is the weapon from hell, to be used only when the other option is worse than hell

( Obv only after taiwan, as i don't think China will launch a full scale invasion against India before Taiwan. )
 
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Actually i was talking about china absolutely totally defeating us.

Total defeat can be like opium war or ww1 for germany where the the loosing side has to losse some territory and economic constraints imposed by winning side in their favour.

Context: If china ever feels(or come to conclusion) that, they can totally defeat india, then they wont mind some economic loss due to malacca strait blocked.

Hence we always need to maintain a credible conventional deterrence so that china never have a decisive superiority.

And no, nuclear deterrence wont work, what if china is invading and conquering more and more, and indian militry is in no position to stop or reconquare it, in that case what will Indian govt do ?

1) launch nuclear weapon againt china(though we have no first use policy)
2) accept defeat and cede the himalyan territories and give unrestricted access to chinease companies

Nuclear deterrence is very complex, it need to first draw a nuclear red line, will lossing some less inhabited territories and economic freedom to china is that nuclear red line ?
Will indian govt ready to let 140-5(max population of himalayn territories) crore to die in nuclear war ?

Nuclear weapon is the weapon from hell, to be used only when the other option is worse than hell

( Obv only after taiwan, as i don't think China will launch a full scale invasion against India before Taiwan. )
Invasion inside sovereign territory will be considered as equivalent to FIRST-STRIKE in any condition. So, this must end your nuclear use dilemma.
On the other hand ,at maximum at any desperate attempt our Adversary can use aerial systems and missiles inside Indian territory, 'Boot on the ground' invasion is not possible at present time ( even in 1962 it was not possible if our the then Govt. allowed our military to use our aerial systems along with strengthening the border security and supply chain through planning from 1950, rather doing " HINDI CHEENI BHAI - BHAI " BU*LLSHI*T ).

Reasons for this limitation for our adversary are :

(1) Logistics problems,
(2) Himalays is still a huge hindrance against troop mobilization, only through few narrow pass people can move which can be made disfunctional easily now a days,
(3) COUNTER- INVASION inside adversary's land, we all know Tibetans ( here ) want a chance like these,
(4) Any long term engagement with us will make our adversary weak which can be used as a window by USA , JAPAN to fulfill their ambitions to regain power & strategic upper hand,
(5) Hostile environment & population if any invasion attempt (even in limited/ specific) is tried.

So, our adversary is not that fool to try these stupid things. Rather they'll try to use puppets like Pakistan and to some extent Bangladesh/ Nepal to build pressure and distribute our focus and assets.

This is all STRATEGIC GAME, not some mediaeval period invasion of territories. Our adversary uses Debt trap, Financial dependency, Economic choke points, Information warfare, intelligence & counter intelligence, quantitative upper hand, faster manufacturing, financial dumping and sometimes sanctions etc. as their primary tools of aggression. Their boot on the ground/ real military strength will be tested in their Taiwan invasion ( in near future ) & even before, during & after invasion the Adversary will try aggressive information warfare to mask any military lacking or, limitations during the process. WE NEED TO DIVE DEEP INTO THIS. The courses of actions are ready , just need proper planning & execution.
 
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Invasion inside sovereign territory will be considered as equivalent to FIRST-STRIKE in any condition. So, this must end your nuclear use dilemma.
On the other hand ,at maximum at any desperate attempt our Adversary can use aerial systems and missiles inside Indian territory, 'Boot on the ground' invasion is not possible at present time ( even in 1962 it was not possible if our the then Govt. allowed our military to use our aerial systems along with strengthening the border security and supply chain through planning from 1950, rather doing " HINDI CHEENI BHAI - BHAI " BU*LLSHI*T ).

Reasons for this limitation for our adversary are :

(1) Logistics problems,
(2) Himalays is still a huge hindrance against troop mobilization, only through few narrow pass people can move which can be made disfunctional easily now a days,
(3) COUNTER- INVASION inside adversary's land, we all know Tibetans ( here ) want a chance like these,
(4) Any long term engagement with us will make our adversary weak which can be used as a window by USA , JAPAN to fulfill their ambitions to regain power & strategic upper hand,
(5) Hostile environment & population if any invasion attempt (even in limited/ specific) is tried.

So, our adversary is not that fool to try these stupid things. Rather they'll try to use puppets like Pakistan and to some extent Bangladesh/ Nepal to build pressure and distribute our focus and assets.

This is all STRATEGIC GAME, not some mediaeval period invasion of territories. Our adversary uses Debt trap, Financial dependency, Economic choke points, Information warfare, intelligence & counter intelligence, quantitative upper hand, faster manufacturing, financial dumping and sometimes sanctions etc. as their primary tools of aggression. Their boot on the ground/ real military strength will be tested in their Taiwan invasion ( in near future ) & even before, during & after invasion the Adversary will try aggressive information warfare to mask any military lacking or, limitations during the process. WE NEED TO DIVE DEEP INTO THIS. The courses of actions are ready , just need proper planning & execution.
I mean yeah i too believe that "Boots on the ground" is extremely difficult for PLA, thats why i am interested in how Taiwan's invasion goes.

But saying its "Impossible" might not be correct, China's PLAA is very powerful, they are developing long range stealth fighter-bomber(j36).

If a country can achieve an airsuperiority over another, then invasion is possible.

And i dont want to became clown like french authorities before WW2, "Ardennes forest is impassable".

And then we have Pakistan, acountry drown in Chinese debt, they will offer their country, airfields to let PLA invade.

Infact they might even start a distracting invasion of their own, when most of logistics will be on western side, PLAA and PLA'S rocket force may bomb the roads,railways, bridges, tunnels which connect the himalyan regions.

Although still difficult, but being "Better safe than sorry"
 
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I mean yeah i too believe that "Boots on the ground" is extremely difficult for PLA, thats why i am interested in how Taiwan's invasion goes.

But saying its "Impossible" might not be correct, China's PLAA is very powerful, they are developing long range stealth fighter-bomber(j36).

If a country can achieve an airsuperiority over another, then invasion is possible.

And i dont want to became clown like french authorities before WW2, "Ardennes forest is impassable".

And then we have Pakistan, acountry drown in Chinese debt, they will offer their country, airfields to let PLA invade.

Infact they might even start a distracting invasion of their own, when most of logistics will be on western side, PLAA and PLA'S rocket force may bomb the roads,railways, bridges, tunnels which connect the himalyan regions.

Although still difficult, but being "Better safe than sorry"
I'm not being overconfident or, casual by underestimating the Adversary, but the points you're saying are equally possible for both parties in any potential conflict. There are lot of Infrastructure of the adversary ( Railways , Roadways , Dams/ Barrages, Military installations, Airbases, Missile silos, etc. ) within our conventional offensive envelope.

We're yet to see how our adversary responds to any situation of bloodbath in any of their major city or, huge damage to any critical infrastructure ( maybe nuclear plant / military base ) in any potential conflict.

Yes , ofcourse we need to enhance our capabilities and achieve superiority over the Adversary by all means.

Some important steps are already taken like:
1) Developing Theatre Commands and integration of Different wings of Armed Forces ( still continuous process ) ,

2) Forming Rocket force ( still in process )

Some more steps are needed to be taken like,

1) establishing a dedicated Space Force or, A space force wing under the Air force,
2) establishing a dedicated Cyber Force.
 
Bid Number: GEM/2026/B/7705966
Workpackage towards Aircraft Build & Testing for 10 Months​

LCA AF Mk2 PV1 aircraft is under build stage followed by system integration activities and flight testing. The work package includes build of PV1 which involves assembly, equipping, FOD, manufacturing of looms, relay panel, distribution box wire harness, second end connectorization, installation of LRUs & brackets, plumbing of pipelines, integration of subassemblies and LRUs such as Landing Gear, Control surfaces, Engine, etc. followed by system integration testing which includes preparation and conduct of RET, snag rectification & documentation with lastly support towards aircraft ground and flight testing activities.​

Project duration: 10 months
 
Bid Number: GEM/2026/B/7705966
Workpackage towards Aircraft Build & Testing for 10 Months​

LCA AF Mk2 PV1 aircraft is under build stage followed by system integration activities and flight testing. The work package includes build of PV1 which involves assembly, equipping, FOD, manufacturing of looms, relay panel, distribution box wire harness, second end connectorization, installation of LRUs & brackets, plumbing of pipelines, integration of subassemblies and LRUs such as Landing Gear, Control surfaces, Engine, etc. followed by system integration testing which includes preparation and conduct of RET, snag rectification & documentation with lastly support towards aircraft ground and flight testing activities.​

Project duration: 10 months
It's open till 15.7.26. Basically, there is no way the aircraft flies even in 2027.
They carry out integration work for the rest of the 2026 and final integrations, checks, and preparation for taxi trials in the first half of 2027.
That basically put the first flight in late 2027 or early 2028.
 
Bid Number: GEM/2026/B/7705966
Workpackage towards Aircraft Build & Testing for 10 Months​

LCA AF Mk2 PV1 aircraft is under build stage followed by system integration activities and flight testing. The work package includes build of PV1 which involves assembly, equipping, FOD, manufacturing of looms, relay panel, distribution box wire harness, second end connectorization, installation of LRUs & brackets, plumbing of pipelines, integration of subassemblies and LRUs such as Landing Gear, Control surfaces, Engine, etc. followed by system integration testing which includes preparation and conduct of RET, snag rectification & documentation with lastly support towards aircraft ground and flight testing activities.​

Project duration: 10 months
This is HAL? Why are they outsourcing this? Isn't this their core job?
 
Apart from the char-sau-bees Pakistanis, the real threats today are just J-10s, J-11BGs, J-16s, and J-20s. They come up to about 1200 jets. Out of that, the WS-15 equipped J-20s have started only from this year. The rest of the Chinese fleet is quite useless due to the Tibetan wall or due to obsolescence.

Today, only 50-60 J-10Cs and 14 J-20s are deployed against India in Tibet. And there are another 100-200 jets elsewhere. It's not 700. You are counting the stuff deployed closer to Mongolia and Central Asia. Most of their 4th gen and higher are deployed in the plains to the east.

And we don't need one jet for every one of theirs. Fighters protect airspace, so numbers are determined by the size of the airspace and how many jets you might lose protecting it. We just need 100 jets each on both sides for air defense, the rest are for attrition replacements and other roles.
Claiming that 'there is no operational deployment of the so-called WS-15 equipped J-20, a

even is a WS-10B-3

Actually i was talking about china absolutely totally defeating us.

Total defeat can be like opium war or ww1 for germany where the the loosing side has to losse some territory and economic constraints imposed by winning side in their favour.

Context: If china ever feels(or come to conclusion) that, they can totally defeat india, then they wont mind some economic loss due to malacca strait blocked.

Hence we always need to maintain a credible conventional deterrence so that china never have a decisive superiority.

And no, nuclear deterrence wont work, what if china is invading and conquering more and more, and indian militry is in no position to stop or reconquare it, in that case what will Indian govt do ?

1) launch nuclear weapon againt china(though we have no first use policy)
2) accept defeat and cede the himalyan territories and give unrestricted access to chinease companies

Nuclear deterrence is very complex, it need to first draw a nuclear red line, will lossing some less inhabited territories and economic freedom to china is that nuclear red line ?
Will indian govt ready to let 140-5(max population of himalayn territories) crore to die in nuclear war ?

Nuclear weapon is the weapon from hell, to be used only when the other option is worse than hell

( Obv only after taiwan, as i don't think China will launch a full scale invasion against India before Taiwan. )
It is the United States, not India, that poses an existential threat to China. China's western region—defined as the area west of a line drawn from Heihe to Tenchong—represents a disastrous financial drain;
it is difficult to say how this situation can be sustained in the future, and China is certainly not going to go to war with India over a few barren mountains in the Himalayas.QQ拼音截图20260626095545.png

To the east of this red line lies 94% of China's population, while 6% resides to the west;
tax revenue from the region west of the line covers only 20% to 30% of its daily fiscal expenditures.
 
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