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According to west only 3 states exist in world
1. Client state
2. Potential Client state
3. Rogue state

If any emerging economy doesn't fall into 1 or 2, fuel anarchy to make it 3 irrespective of a functioning democracy.
you have read too many conspiracy theories and got confused, no doubt that there are external elements which have proxies in India creating trouble. But george soros ? but dont stretch it too far. do you have any facts to back up your claim rather than just empty words.
 
Evidently you aren't familiar with the saying - Sawa lakh se ik ladau.. Which was liberally quoted ( still is) in various SM during the height of the farmer's agitation.

How would you be? If you were, it'd be "Hindi" imposition by northies, isn't it?
Taking things out of context for your own self serving purpose is not going to take things any where. The current govt is doing the same thing that cong was accused of. If Indira gandhi created bhindran wale the current govt is looking to out do them. Whats the idea of the current govt to create fertile ground for enemies to take advantage of ?

My view is quite clear , you dont set your own house on fire to fix things. It does more long term damage.


"Hindi" imposition? straw mans argument, look you are losing the plot as usual.
 
So how many from this list were accused of promoting the Khalistani agenda during the recent agitations? I ask since you seem to be tracking this very closely.
Your argument is similar to what pakistan gives after every terrorist attack. does that mean that there are no terrorists coming in from pakistan. come with a better argument next time.

Instead of being a cheap apologist for the govt, Just let us know why the govt cleared the khalistani black list ? Dont come back with pakistan style answer of good terrorists & bad terrorists. We all know where they are.
 
Taking things out of context for your own self serving purpose is not going to take things any where. The current govt is doing the same thing that cong was accused of. If Indira gandhi created bhindran wale the current govt is looking to out do them. Whats the idea of the current govt to create fertile ground for enemies to take advantage of ?
Pls explain how exactly is the government creating terrorists by enacting the farm laws.

What was the Genesis of the terrorist movement in Punjab? I've heard a lot of ignorants parrot the lazy rhetoric that IG was responsible for Bhindranwale in the same way that Modi was held responsible for the Gujarat riots by a section of the English print & AV media.

According to this section, Godhra never happened or if it did it had to be underplayed or was a conspiracy hatched by the BJP itself or they brought it upon themselves or it simply doesn't figure in the narrative.

So, why don't you enlighten us on how exactly did IG & the Congress create Bhindranwale ?

My view is quite clear , you dont set your own house on fire to fix things. It does more long term damage.

So who exactly is setting whose home on fire here?
"Hindi" imposition? straw mans argument, look you are losing the plot as usual.
Did you even understand the quotation there & it's significance.
 
Your argument is similar to what pakistan gives after every terrorist attack. does that mean that there are no terrorists coming in from pakistan. come with a better argument next time.
You mean you aren't aware of either the context or the reason why the order was issued.

I asked you a pointed question & what I get is whatsboutery & equivalence with Pakistan. Pretty rich considering you brought up the subject of terrorism & accused the BJP if giving terrorists a free pass.

Instead of being a cheap apologist for the govt, Just let us know why the govt cleared the khalistani black list ? Dont come back with pakistan style answer of good terrorists & bad terrorists. We all know where they are.
I'm asking you once more, since you claim all those in that list were deemed terrorists, how many of them were responsible in fanning the agitation & it's aftermath on 26th January ?

Since you are obviously an unalloyed critic of this government & it's policies particularly this one connected to Khalistani sympathisers or active proponents & have made this charge, shouldn't you then be furnishing evidence to shut me & other so called cheap apologists for this government up, once & for all.
 
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How many cases reopened and people prosecuted? Plz enlight me? What your fascist thugs have planned on Jan 28 at Gajipur for Sikh families? Fascist criminal will remain criminal. Stop this sympathy bullshit. Whenever you protest for your rights, they will show you your color!

We will see this in 2024, awareness is spreading in people of India. Your religious fanaticism will not work for long! We are not beggers or pets of your Gujrati crony capitalists thugs that start waging tail for few leftovers.

LoL keep dreaming of our ground water running out! If you have a little knowledge of geology and geography of our area, you might have not made this comment.

Gujrati thugs harming the nation most since long and there is no comparison in India with likes of Harshad Mehta, Nirav Modi, Mehul Choksi, IPL wala Modi.......and list goes on and on. Likes of Surat diamond industry are big scam and these leaches & scums sucking blood of Indian poor people through public banks.

Tell me what percentage of Gujratis serving in Indian defense force's fighting arms? How many Gujratis were hanged during Indian freedom movement??? Name the wars Gujratis fought to resist britishers in India??? and you will distribute certificates of Desh bhakati??? aukaat nahi tumahari. A group of 4 Gujrati thugs selling and looting the country!

Come out of your mental gymnastics, called discussion. Smell the coffee and see your Gujarati actor duo's web of lies is setting! My dear fellow countryman "Pawri is Over"!!!!

And one more thing, *censored* YOUR BAN AND SHOVE IT WHERE LIGHT DOES NOT SHINE!!

This government gave compensation to the families of those killed in anti sikh riots and many cases were re-opened just google and you will find out.


Whole nation saw what a bunch of filthy brainwashed people did on 26 January.

Gujarati people might not have representation in armed forces but they never tried anything that harm the nation by helping enemy.

Gujarati businessman has worked day and night to create wealth and pay Tax more than you, we are not like you that need government subsidies to earn money.

Always remember at that time it was Gujarati that united this Great nation, The first princely state to join Indian union was Bhavnagar. Even in WW2 it was king of Jamnagar that gave refuge to people of Poland.

i’m not like you that target one state just because politicians of that state is your political rivals.

People know what is good for them and according to that they vote just because people don’t vote like you want doesn’t mean you say bad things about them!
 
What damage has Modi done to Sikhs?
Meanwhile it's mostly Sikhs who are chilling out and blocking multiple entry and exit points to Delhi, and caused perhaps more than a lakh crore worth of losses..
whether you like it or not the current govt not only failed to bring the bill in a proper manner to get every one aboard but also has mishandled the agitation. Look in politics there is always give & take, talk to ppl who might not have same view as you but that does not mean you jump the gun and pass things arbitrarily. If the current govt had gone through all the normal process and then they are right in saying agitators are disruptors. They could not convince their own allies forget about opposition.

First & foremost you dont call farmers as khalistanis or anti nationals this is cheap political trick. If you keep repeating lies assuming that will force ppl to go away it is plain wrong. We are actually creating fertile ground for khalistanis to find sympathizers. Why bring up a issue that is dead to score political points? To make things worse this very govt cleared the khalistani blacklist. As such they have lot of explaining to do if they raise khalistani issue.

Current govt is doing the same things that cong previously did, its only the shades are different. Its high time they come of their lofty pedestal and engage ppl lest extremists hijack the perception.
 
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Leave this mental masturbation and read this, Chinese are beating your *censored*, whenever you try to set at foot on our own soil beyond Y-Juction. Now your Gujrati thug is bending over to receive emperor Xi for BRICS event and selling sacrifices of our Galwan Bravehearts!

And who is responsible for that?

Under whose watch they were able to construct road inside Indian territory?

who was in power during Year 2010-2012 when they constructed road in depsang sector?
 
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You mean you aren't aware of either the context or the reason why the order was issued.

I asked you a pointed question & what I get is whatsboutery & equivalence with Pakistan. Pretty rich considering you brought up the subject of terrorism & accused the BJP if giving terrorists a free pass.


I'm asking you once more, since you claim all those in that list were deemed terrorists, how many of them were responsible in fanning the agitation & it's aftermath on 26th January ?

Since you are obviously an unalloyed critic of this government & it's policies particularly this one connected to Khalistani sympathisers or active proponents & have made this charge, shouldn't you then be furnishing evidence to shut me & other so called cheap apologists for this government up, once & for all.
Oh yeah , talk about hypocrisy. Instead of let using know why govt cleared the blacklist you want us do fact finding mission. what for ? to hide the govt mistakes. These are cheap gimmicks, what will you say if congress says let us know how many terrorists who were freed attacked us again. Will you agree them?

Since you are obviously an unalloyed critic of this government & it's policies particularly this one connected to Khalistani sympathisers or active proponents & have made this charge, shouldn't you then be furnishing evidence to shut me & other so called cheap apologists for this government up, once & for all.
Every govt action is subject to scrutiny , you cannot play nationalist trump card to hide your mistakes. I have no affinity with this govt or any other govt, period. Its ppl like you who are hung upon parties & govt instead of putting country interests first. As your govt ( given that you identified yourself with them) took the decision you should let us know why they cleared the black list not me.

As I have quite often said this govt is doing the same thing that cong did thats simply not acceptable.
 
Oh yeah , talk about hypocrisy. Instead of let using know why govt cleared the blacklist you want us do fact finding mission. what for ? to hide the govt mistakes. These are cheap gimmicks, what will you say if congress says let us know how many terrorists who were freed attacked us again. Will you agree them?
Sometimes I wonder if you yourself have read the article you've quoted.

Here are some excerpts :

The move also has political significance for Narendra Modi’s NDA government ahead of the year-long worldwide celebrations of Guru Nanak’s 550th birth anniversary starting in November this year. The opening of the Kartarpur corridor between India and Pakistan is part of these celebrations.

“What better occasion than this to scrap the illegal list,” said Bikram Singh Majithia, senior leader of the Shiromani Akali Dal (SAD) that is part of the BJP-led NDA.

“Apart from full-fledged former militants who were associated with specific activities carried out while in Punjab and against whom look out circulars (LOC) were issued, there were many radicals on the list too. Over the years, many of these radicals seemed to have grown out of the intensity of the separatist fervour and were removed from the list. But it continued to be a strong deterrent for anyone indulging in anti-India activities on foreign soil,” said the intelligence officer quoted above.


“The idea behind the move (to do away with the list) is to allow these persons and their families to come back to Punjab and see the change for themselves while re-connecting with their roots. They left when Punjab was in the throes of militancy. After three and a half decades, things have changed a lot. There is no space for violence or an atmosphere for the revival of a separatist movement.”

Gradual deletion

The earliest mention of the list was made by a delegation of Canadian Sikhs when Captain Amarinder Singh, in his first stint as chief minister, visited Toronto in 2005. Then, in 2010, then CM Parkash Singh Badal raised the matter during a chief ministers’ conference in New Delhi.

An official acknowledgement of the existence of the list came in 2011 when the then home minister P. Chidambaram announced that 142 names had been deleted from the list.


“These included several former militants as well. The idea was to not stop them from coming to India but to allow them to come to India and face trials in cases, if any, pending against them,” the intelligence officer said.

In December 2014, Shiromani Akali Dal (SAD) president and then deputy CM Sukhbir Badal wrote to then Union home minister Rajnath Singh saying the identity of 31 people on the list of 63 had been ascertained, and could be removed from the list. The next year, a delegation of British Sikhs met Prime Minister Narendra Modi and urged him to do away with the list.

In 2016, ahead of the assembly polls in Punjab, the Government of India informed that 225 names had been removed from the list of 298 over the years. Officials of the home ministry had said the remaining 73 names would be struck off in phases.

“The decision comes at a time when Sikh groups abroad are involved in protesting against Modi government scrapping Article 370. The Government of India wants to keep Sikhs away from joining Muslims over the Kashmir issue,” said Kanwarpal Singh, spokesperson for Dal Khalsa, a body that wants to form a sovereign Sikh Republic.

“The recent reopening of the case against Madhya Pradesh Chief Minister Kamal Nath too is aimed at appeasing the Sikhs.”

However, the Akalis disagree. “The move is purely a humanitarian gesture on the occasion of Guru Nanak Dev ji’s birth anniversary,” said Majithia.

The NDA’s attitude towards Sikhs is diagonally opposed to the Congress. It is the NDA government which created the Kartarpur Corridor. It jailed Sajjan Kumar and ordered a fast trial of Jagdish Tytler in the 1984 genocide cases, and even the reopening of the case against Kamal Nath.”

Every govt action is subject to scrutiny , you cannot play nationalist trump card to hide your mistakes. I have no affinity with this govt or any other govt, period. Its ppl like you who are hung upon parties & govt instead of putting country interests first. As your govt ( given that you identified yourself with them) took the decision you should let us know why they cleared the black list not me.
Whether you like it or not,accept it or not this government is the government of the sovereign Republic of India. This isn'tn my government. It's our government. If you don't agree on this fundamental principle, all future discussion is futile.

As I have quite often said this govt is doing the same thing that cong did thats simply not acceptable.
You still haven't come up with any logical explanation for your charge that IG was responsible for the creation of Bhindranwale
or for that matter how are farm laws going to encourage people in Punjab or elsewhere to take up terrorism or the link between the closure of the blacklist to the recent farmer's agitation.

Like most of your recent posts or rants to be more precise , this is another sterling example of your tactics - spit & run.

Here, let me take the opportunity of educating you on what was the situation in Punjab before terrorism burst upon the scene & why did it happen.

This is an excellent 4 part primer ( I've linked only the 1st part. The links for the rest of the series are contained within it) on the Genesis of the Khalistani movement, the terrorism carried out in its name & the aftermath.

Although it's written by a Punjabi Hindu & does occasionally slant towards their world view & philosophy, by & large, it's a fairly neutral , unbiased detailed primer on those tragic events.Do go through it.

 
you have read too many conspiracy theories and got confused, no doubt that there are external elements which have proxies in India creating trouble. But george soros ? but dont stretch it too far. do you have any facts to back up your claim rather than just empty words.

George Soros have many NGOs namely OSF/ORF to fuel anarchy behind "free speech" narrative.

Besides that, he's been accused by many other govts of west to overthrow them from power.

It's astonishing that how Soros take minorities as fool to dance to his tunes. He would have been laughing inside on how easy it is to take their make believe victim-hood for ride!

whether you like it or not the current govt not only failed to bring the bill in a proper manner to get every one aboard but also has mishandled the agitation. Look in politics there is always give & take, talk to ppl who might not have same view as you but that does not mean you jump the gun and pass things arbitrarily. If the current govt had gone through all the normal process and then they are right in saying agitators are disruptors. They could not convince their own allies forget about opposition.

First & foremost you dont call farmers as khalistanis or anti nationals this is cheap political trick. If you keep repeating lies assuming that will force ppl to go away it is plain wrong. We are actually creating fertile ground for khalistanis to find sympathizers. Why bring up a issue that is dead to score political points? To make things worse this very govt cleared the khalistani blacklist. As such they have lot of explaining to do if they raise khalistani issue.

Current govt is doing the same things that cong previously did, its only the shades are different. Its high time they come of their lofty pedestal and engage ppl lest extremists hijack the perception.

How can you onboard "Hired protesters" and "Rebels without cause" activists who jumps ship and start opposing the laws they themselves demanded since decades? Like CAA/NRC, abrogation of art 35A &370, Adhaar and GST, this too is an old ambitious reform of all political parties. How can you oppose climate activists condoning stubble burning and crops that affect water table? How can you oppose direct MSP trasfer to accounts of farmers without middlemen taking majority of income?

Fact is these clowns are snatching microphone from their own on asking questions and enticing others to use tractors as tanks after conveniently condemning 26 Jan violence. What's more funny is they blamed it on BJP but who is providing physical and legal cover to violators is for everyone to see.

This is why anti India forces always fail, they have no integrity and honesty.
 

Given the recent developments out here can't decide whether this article need be posted here or in the LAC thread. I'm taking the risk of posting it here. If @mods deem it fit they may choose to retain it here or shift it to LAC thread.

Meanwhile Capt Sahab is trying to play the reverse sweep off a bouncer. No this isn't a joke. It's actually what he's attempting.
What's your opinion ? @Maler ; @jetray
 

Given the recent developments out here can't decide whether this article need be posted here or in the LAC thread. I'm taking the risk of posting it here. If @mods deem it fit they may choose to retain it here or shift it to LAC thread.

Meanwhile Capt Sahab is trying to play the reverse sweep off a bouncer. No this isn't a joke. It's actually what he's attempting.
What's your opinion ? @Maler ; @jetray
Transparency is the enemy of corruption.
 

Given the recent developments out here can't decide whether this article need be posted here or in the LAC thread. I'm taking the risk of posting it here. If @mods deem it fit they may choose to retain it here or shift it to LAC thread.

Meanwhile Capt Sahab is trying to play the reverse sweep off a bouncer. No this isn't a joke. It's actually what he's attempting.
What's your opinion ? @Maler ; @jetray
Captain is absolutely and totally right! This move has nothing to do with transperancy. Modi and his Gujrati twins are trying to destroy APMC Mandi System of Punjab & Haryana. Till Mandis are there in Punjab & Haryana, Modi's twins will not be able to penetrate the grain markets of these 2 states and Mudy will not be able to abolish MSP.
 
Captain is absolutely and totally right! This move has nothing to do with transperancy. Modi and his Gujrati twins are trying to destroy APMC Mandi System of Punjab & Haryana. Till Mandis are there in Punjab & Haryana, Modi's twins will not be able to penetrate the grain markets of these 2 states and Mudy will not be able to abolish MSP.
Put another way, if APMC is reduced to a formality & other states come forward to sell their foodgrains to pvt players, the entire issue of MSP in Punjab & only Punjab goes for a toss as what Modi & Shah have done is attached strings to the DBT in Punjab which the farmers / arhattiya lobby would never be able to fulfill.

Add to that the fact that Punjab is essentially a foodgrain surplus state which means it requires markets to sell it's produce & not the other way around. This seems right out of the pages of Kautilya's Arthshaastra. In shataranj, it's known as Shah Maat.

I told you before when it comes to baniya buddhi, you're no match for the duo either individually or collectively.
 
Let the Punjab and Haryana state Govts buy all the subsidised wheat and rice they want and enrich the so much valuable Arhatiyas/Dalals. Why we( both as a taxpayers and small farmers) have to suffer for their money siphoning.
We have been held hostage by these Mandi Cartels far too long.

These guys are mocking us by showing their lavish life style at these so called protests. Do anyone seriously think that these protesters represent us in any manner imaginable? And by “us” I’m referring to small farmers here. Not to forget there are huge number of marginal farmers too with almost no land, Those who need urgent help which I doubt even these new measures can provide.

This whole fasad is similar to Creamy Layer fiasco in SC/ST reservation . These guys don’t want to let go the advantage that they are getting.

Now they have problems with even Direct Cash transfer too. Man I love these clowns 😀
 
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Let the Punjab and Haryana state Govts buy all the subsidised wheat and rice they want and enrich the so much valuable Arhatiyas/Dalals. Why we( both as a taxpayers and small farmers) have to suffer for their money siphoning.
We have been held hostage by these Mandi Cartels far too long.
We will keep giving danda, increasing pressure at your right spot and make it more painful with every passing day.....jab tak tumahri chekhain nahi nikalti.....LoL......and you can't do anything about it. Everything will remain the same as we want or we will cut shot Modi govt. Even you Sanghi can't stop it....wrote it down!
 
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We will keep giving danda, increasing pressure at your right spot and make it more painful with every passing day.....jab tak tumahri chekhain nahi nikalti.....LoL......and you can't do anything about it. Everything will remain the same as we want or we will cut shot Modi govt. Even you Sanghi can't stop it....wrote it down!
Good luck.
And also keep digging old articles to show How Modi is selling India like that Delhi-Meerut RRTS tender and that CRRC Plant in Sri City.
For us it’s battle between two banya community one is brainy other is Hormone rich
 
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On the serious note, have you any so called 'small farmer' read the recent report on US farmers? If not go through following video...