Bangladesh on edge: Massive protests erupt after Sharif Osman Hadi's death

Let’s revisit this conversation after 3-4 years down the line. Foreign policy reflects the resolve of a country. If Munir survives for a long enough period, India’s inaction in BD will come back to bite us big time.

Mind you, there was a reason India intervened the way we did in 1971 — US was a lot more hostile than it is today. We did it nonetheless. BD is on course to become a hot bed of Pakistan army with Pak posting weapons there. Again, why were Russian missiles in Cuba a huge cause of concern for US? Why was US missiles in Ukraine (if it materialised) a huge cause of concern for Russia?

Why is Pak missiles/military presence in BD not a cause of worry for India?
Defcon.. Look at the events preceding to India's decision to intervene.
And look how inaction after 1971 led to current crisis.
The migration. That was the threat which forced us to intervene. Inaction to deport and de-radicalise which became crisis today.

Neither the problem, nor the solution came from weapons of pak military. Similarly, the real threat today is porus border threating our national security. And real solution is deter, detect, deport followed by cleanup of jihadi ideology. Today we see jihad manifesting as terrorism. In history, it's the jihadi which led to Islamic jihadi army under caliphate destroying pluralistic civilisations. Like crusaders.

As for your comparison with cuba, ukraine, Taiwan, venezuela.. they are worng comparison because:

During USA vs USSR.. their respective homelands were far away. Barring alaska with little population and virtually zero industry.. they did not share any border. So, a missile in Cuba was way bigger threat than a missile in Moscow back then. Especially, Cuba was USA's backyard with near zero competition before USSR. Same with NATO and Ukraine and why Russia is irritated by missiles in Ukraine when same missiles are already in UK. Japan, Korea, Taiwan being threat to China and breaking the barrier of second island chain being threat to US homeland. Even with Hypersonics already in play and Chinese dominance in immediate SCS.

For India.. we already share border with Pak and China. We need and (hopefully) are timely developing counters to them. I agree that nuclear missile will be threat if placed in BD, but it's unlikely and even a pact including nuclear cover will be inviting consequences that BD can't absorb. When talking about conventional missiles... No missile in BD is more of a threat than Missiles with Chinese placed in Tibet, near our borders. It will not proportionally increase threat perception vis a vis opening up gaps in international forums for Bombing BD out. Weakening the very ecosystem and narrative that west relies on.

PLease identify the real threat. It's not missile. It's jihadi. And if only bullets were answer.. israel would've solved Palestine issue by now.
 
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Let’s revisit this conversation after 3-4 years down the line. Foreign policy reflects the resolve of a country. If Munir survives for a long enough period, India’s inaction in BD will come back to bite us big time.

Mind you, there was a reason India intervened the way we did in 1971 — US was a lot more hostile than it is today. We did it nonetheless. BD is on course to become a hot bed of Pakistan army with Pak posting weapons there. Again, why were Russian missiles in Cuba a huge cause of concern for US? Why was US missiles in Ukraine (if it materialised) a huge cause of concern for Russia?

Why is Pak missiles/military presence in BD not a cause of worry for India?
Pak missiles in Bangladesh? 🤣😂😂😂

Bro Shaheen, Ghauri, Ababeel can already reach all parts of India, so why the hell would they put missiles in Bangladesh? Literally what would they achieve from this?

In 1961 Soviet R7 had few numbers and their R12 had around 2,000 KM range which was insufficient to reach US from Russia so that's why they put missiles in Cuba. Last time I checked India isn't 8,000 km or something away from Pak for them to put missiles in another country. I suggest you learn to count first before making such emotionally charged statements 😂.

As for Pak army presence in Bangladesh lol, they will never dare.
 
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Defcon.. Look at the events preceding to India's decision to intervene.
And look how inaction after 1971 led to current crisis.
The migration. That was the threat which forced us to intervene. Inaction to deport and de-radicalise which became crisis today.

Neither the problem, nor the solution came from weapons of pak military. Similarly, the real threat today is porus border threating our national security. And real solution is deter, detect, deport followed by cleanup of jihadi ideology. Today we see jihad manifesting as terrorism. In history, it's the jihadi which led to Islamic jihadi army under caliphate destroying pluralistic civilisations. Like crusaders.

As for your comparison with cuba, ukraine, Taiwan, venezuela.. they are worng comparison because:

During USA vs USSR.. their respective homelands were far away. Barring alaska with little population and virtually zero industry.. they did not share any border. So, a missile in Cuba was way bigger threat than a missile in Moscow back then. Especially, Cuba was USA's backyard with near zero competition before USSR. Same with NATO and Ukraine and why Russia is irritated by missiles in Ukraine when same missiles are already in UK. Japan, Korea, Taiwan being threat to China and breaking the barrier of second island chain being threat to US homeland. Even with Hypersonics already in play and Chinese dominance in immediate SCS.

For India.. we already share border with Pak and China. We need and (hopefully) are timely developing counters to them. I agree that nuclear missile will be threat if placed in BD, but it's unlikely and even a pact including nuclear cover will be inviting consequences that BD can't absorb. When talking about conventional missiles... No missile in BD is more of a threat than Missiles with Chinese placed in Tibet, near our borders. It will not proportionally increase threat perception vis a vis opening up gaps in international forums for Bombing BD out. Weakening the very ecosystem and narrative that west relies on.

PLease identify the real threat. It's not missile. It's jihadi. And if only bullets were answer.. israel would've solved Palestine issue by now.
Overemotionl people dont tend to analyze the situation well. Literally putting missiles in Kangladesh defeats the very purpose of making them have enough range to hit any part of India when launched from Pak 😂. I don't understand what goes on in that fellows mind sometimes.

As for Pak soldiers in BD, Pak is facing hostile Afghanistan, Balochistan insurgency AND Indian Army but somehow they can muster enough troops tanks jets (and money!!!!) to deploy them in BD as well as use their puny little Navy to travel almost 1,000 km around India to keep them supplied 😂. Or perhaps @Defc0n thinks we will graciously open our airspace for PAF cargo planes to drop troops and supplies in BD 😂. Man defc0n, take a moment to reflect on the tad bit wild scenarios you espouse.
 
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Right, I&B are the ones responsible for that 'glacial' fact check account. The MEA are slightly better and you need only look at how things have turned out so far. I do not see anything apart from mediocre performance when it comes to handling diplomacy in SA and SEA. We have not been able to contain chaos in the neighborhood. Of course, they alone are not responsible and I am sure there are plenty of other organisations or departments that have failed the GoI.

I have no comments regarding kinetic actions. I have low expectations when it comes any strikes that could be initiated by us w/o any incidents happening in India. Let's see what happens.
You don't use the Brahmastra to kill a pigeon. Covert ops is the only suitable way to deal with that country and it has been done before when Indian intelligence was far weaker and under far more nupunsak leadership.
 
Firstly, we need a high speed railway connection from Bihar , West Bengal through Siliguri Corridor to Assam nd Meghalaya.
Secondly, India needs to agree and sign Nepal and Bhutan into this high speed rail network too. Thirdly, The Arakan Army should be given full support and the Kaladan Rail link project must be prioritised to get alternate access to sea .

I am very sure that the region will see Vande Bharat connectivity. But this will take half a decade due to the topography and multi state project being a challenge as you already mentioned. But it is doable.

Bangladesh is highly dependent on Pakistan and China to counter India . If you carefully observe their strategic talk shows and discussions they always say that IF INDIA NEEDS TO ATTACK BANGLADESH AND CAPTURE SUCCESSFULLY ON GROUND THEN INDIA NEEDS ATLEAST 3 TIMES THE MAN POWER/FORCE OF WHAT BANGLADESH IS HAVING. And they have calculated that it is not possible to bring such number by India against Bangladesh in case of any conflict BECAUSE OF PAKISTAN AND CHINA. Basically these Jihadi morons consider the conflict as a fully foot on ground intervention.

Well you can get manpower but in this case India need to form a consortium of Nepal, Myanmar, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, Thailand and Cambodia and explain the respected nations the threat emerging due to religious extremism in the immediate vicinity. Very very thin chances, see Thailand and Cambodia are in conflict. But if MEA is able to get this done, then the whole regional politics will change. It will be more fruitful than SAARC.
 
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I also agree with most of these points but I've my suggestions in addition to these. Firstly, we need a high speed railway connection from Bihar , West Bengal through Siliguri Corridor to Assam nd Meghalaya. Most of this connection should be underground and elevated at some points. I'm considering both the very difficult terrain in the region and the high cost to implement. Secondly, India needs to agree and sign Nepal and Bhutan into this high speed rail network too. Thirdly, The Arakan Army should be given full support and the Kaladan Rail link project must be prioritised to get alternate access to sea .

Bangladesh is highly dependent on Pakistan and China to counter India . If you carefully observe their strategic talk shows and discussions they always say that IF INDIA NEEDS TO ATTACK BANGLADESH AND CAPTURE SUCCESSFULLY ON GROUND THEN INDIA NEEDS ATLEAST 3 TIMES THE MAN POWER/FORCE OF WHAT BANGLADESH IS HAVING. And they have calculated that it is not possible to bring such number by India against Bangladesh in case of any conflict BECAUSE OF PAKISTAN AND CHINA. Basically these Jihadi morons consider the conflict as a fully foot on ground intervention.

BANGLADESH is like A BODY WITHOUT LIFE. Fighting such a Zombie will not help India strategically. BANGLADESH'S LIFE ( THE SOURCE OF ITS POWER ) IS OUTSIDE ITS LAND. SO, INDIA must concentrate to THAT SOURCE . When that SOURCE will be neutralized, this ZOMBIE BODY will automatically DIE. INDIA must focus on NATIONAL INTEGRITY, CONNECTION (HIGH SPEED) & REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY WITH NEPAL, BHUTAN, ARAKAN & MYANMAR.
Other than your bullet train idea your points are absolutely correct. Bangladesh's national strength is so weak all it can really be is a parasite state to host the intelligence agencies of our adversaries to inflitrate their sleeper cells into the Northeast and other areas. Otherwise in a conflict, we dont even need to occupy Bangladesh, having 10-15 or so Su 30 MKI with Brahmos, some Pinaka MLRS, 5-10 Prithvis and 1 destroyer can precisely hit their ports, military HQ, command centers etc and totally destroy their warfighting capability. We wont even need to send troops to occupy them because there is nothing there worth occupying!
 
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We don’t have the scale and reach of those countries (agreed) but we don’t need it as well.
well there is a risk factor involved. For them it is zero risk, they literally lose nothing.
When west creates a problem in our neighborhood and walks away they lose nothing. Just like they are doing in ukraine or iraq. Just like arabs or british who repeatedly attacked India. Whether it is terrorism or bombing another country it is always far away from their shores.

These kind of attacks are intended to bog us down in our own neighborhood. Unless we show the splunk to get out of it and give it to them else where and keep them occupied there, it will continue. Just like we court greece against turkey we need to do the same with cuba ,venezuela, iran ,iraq...etc Every time one of those cntries goes down it frees them up to take on other countries.

Thats what US did with pakistan during operation sindhoor , they just propped them back against India once they saw it was faltering. We should ensure china/russia remain a good counter weight to US.
 
well there is a risk factor involved. For them it is zero risk, they literally lose nothing.
When west creates a problem in our neighborhood and walks away they lose nothing. Just like they are doing in ukraine or iraq. Just like arabs or british who repeatedly attacked India. Whether it is terrorism or bombing another country it is always far away from their shores.

These kind of attacks are intended to bog us down in our own neighborhood. Unless we show the splunk to get out of it and give it to them else where and keep them occupied there, it will continue. Just like we court greece against turkey we need to do the same with cuba ,venezuela, iran ,iraq...etc Every time one of those cntries goes down it frees them up to take on other countries.

Thats what US did with pakistan during operation sindhoor , they just propped them back against India once they saw it was faltering. We should ensure china/russia remain a good counter weight to US.
Exactly and that's where China has learned from history. It has worked on not repeating mistakes of USSR. That is, breaching the sphere of fortress that USA found itself in. It could meddle freely into other nations' internal matters for its gain, due to its own safety.

China threatens it unlike anyone had ever done. And it also made sure to reduce vulnerability from US as much as possible by restricting The Big Tech. Hence, you see increase in mentions of "threat to homeland" in any security discussion in US these days.

Same how Arab leverage the radical muslims in west after Iraq war. USSR tried with cuba, but it's economy couldn't keep up.