Brexit and Future of UK : Discussions

There aren't much details about how catastrophic these invasions were to the Scots, that you keep harping about .

See it as payback for all the fun the Normans / English / Scots had in Ireland over 7 centuries. And Please stop referring to yourself as English. It's really embarrassing how far you take being a colonial apologist.
That's the funny thing about 9th century history, it's not particularly well recorded, but invasions were pretty much all the same.

Payback, what about the payback for 12 centuries in Scotland? Stop referring to yourself as Indian Chinaman.
 
I don't believe there will be a second vote. The EU won't accept it either. Countries shouldn't get the safety valve of joining back after failed negotiations, it will only make a mockery of the EU.

If the UK wants back in, they should exit and then reapply to become a member again.

The brexsh1teers have torn the country apart and still insist on a hard Brexit or no deal. The deal on the table puts the 🇬🇧 in a worse position than remaining in Europe. They should logically have a vote and the option being put this deal forward or remain as we are. Don’t forget the initial vote was flawed where the scumbag brexshiteers lied.
 
The brexsh1teers have torn the country apart and still insist on a hard Brexit or no deal. The deal on the table puts the 🇬🇧 in a worse position than remaining in Europe. They should logically have a vote and the option being put this deal forward or remain as we are. Don’t forget the initial vote was flawed where the scumbag brexshiteers lied.

For the sake of the EU, there shouldn't be another vote.

If the UK is allowed to revoke Article 50, then other countries will end up doing the same, because they know they can come running back to the EU again after experimenting with an exit. That will set a bad precedent. Every idiot will then call for a referendum every few years and put businesses and jobs at risk in the whole of the EU, while also leading to large scale displacement of people. Being a part of the EU shouldn't be reduced to a joke.

There is a hearing on the 27th about whether the UK can unilaterally revoke Article 50, the ECJ should strike that down if they want the EU to survive.

Critical decisions like Brexit shouldn't be taken by people through a simple majority vote, it should be done through the elected body. Or at least make it 2/3rds, not a simple majority.

The Brexiteers have made their bed, they need to lay in it. If they want in again, they should start the membership process against from scratch. No shortcuts.
 
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For the sake of the EU, there shouldn't be another vote.

If the UK is allowed to revoke Article 50, then other countries will end up doing the same, because they know they can come running back to the EU again after experimenting with an exit. That will set a bad precedent. Every idiot will then call for a referendum every few years and put businesses and jobs at risk in the whole of the EU, while also leading to large scale displacement of people. Being a part of the EU shouldn't be reduced to a joke.

There is a hearing on the 27th about whether the UK can unilaterally revoke Article 50, the ECJ should strike that down if they want the EU to survive.

Critical decisions like Brexit shouldn't be taken by people through a simple majority vote, it should be done through the elected body. Or at least make it 2/3rds, not a simple majority.

The Brexiteers have made their bed, they need to lay in it. If they want in again, they should start the membership process against from scratch. No shortcuts.
By that token the EU Constitution that France voted against should have been passed.

Aside from that, the whole point of EU tactics so far has been to stop the UK leaving, so I down they will strike down revocation of Article 50 but as long as parliament rejects the deal, I hope they do.
 
The brexsh1teers have torn the country apart and still insist on a hard Brexit or no deal.
Why do you feel the need to call them brexsh1teers? No deal is better than the current deal and better than being in the EU.

The deal on the table puts the 🇬🇧 in a worse position than remaining in Europe.
That much I agree with.

They should logically have a vote and the option being put this deal forward or remain as we are. Don’t forget the initial vote was flawed where the scumbag brexshiteers lied.
The option should be no deal or this POS deal.
 
Why do you feel the need to call them brexsh1teers? No deal is better than the current deal and better than being in the EU.

No deal is better than the current deal only from a political PoV. From an economic PoV, that's up for debate.
 
No deal is better than the current deal only from a political PoV. From an economic PoV, that's up for debate.
I don't think it is really. Under the deal we lose financial services, whilst at the same time protecting EU imports to the UK, rather than tariffing them and using the money saved to grow businesses and replace them with domestic alternatives, or alternatively forcing EU manufacturing jobs into the UK.
 
I don't think it is really. Under the deal we lose financial services, whilst at the same time protecting EU imports to the UK, rather than tariffing them and using the money saved to grow businesses and replace them with domestic alternatives, or alternatively forcing EU manufacturing jobs into the UK.

It depends on how that works. Britons may be willing to pay an extra 10% for a VW.
 
It depends on how that works. Britons may be willing to pay an extra 10% for a VW.
With the fall in the £, it's more like an extra 25% for a VW, which puts it at Jaguar prices. And if they do pay the extra money, then the UK taxpayer gets that 10% to spend. So either we make jobs or we make money from WTO. There are also non-tariff barriers we can institute if need be. The EU has plenty of these. E.g. 10% tariffs plus SVA (Single Vehicle Approval) test = Higher price + Jobs created to do the tests, all paid for by the idiots buying imported vehicles instead of domestically produced ones.:D
 
With the fall in the £, it's more like an extra 25% for a VW, which puts it at Jaguar prices. And if they do pay the extra money, then the UK taxpayer gets that 10% to spend. So either we make jobs or we make money from WTO. There are also non-tariff barriers we can institute if need be. The EU has plenty of these. E.g. 10% tariffs plus SVA (Single Vehicle Approval) test = Higher price + Jobs created to do the tests, all paid for by the idiots buying imported vehicles instead of domestically produced ones.:D

GBP could drop by a lot more after Brexit.
 
Lots of different Europeans went to North America and they all ended up speaking English.

You are the only one dribbling out propaganda. I said that the French invade the UK before the British Empire even started. Were it not for Roman, Viking and Norman invasions Britain probably would never have been capable of establishing an empire. In the 9th century Gaelic tribesmen from Ireland invaded Northern Britain to form Scotland just to put things into perspective. Britain only became capable of Empire after several other European invasions. So why you blame us is astonishing. It strikes me that your government have brainwashed you via the education system into blaming Britain for all their inadequacies some 71 years after independence. When does this excuse expire exactly?


I don't care about north America or other European attacked British. It does not concern me. British looted India for 300 years and killed millions of people all over world. That the truth.


Going by your logic India should invade Britlund after all it fair we were invaded by Europeans. You should not blame us .


It's really funny I never blamed you for anything I simply stated the truth . I think Brit are butt hurt and delusional that think of words we never said.


If it's anything it's your govt which brainwash people.


@mods . If go to western forum and deny Nazi crimes I would be banned immediately . But we Indians are really sissies to engage with these Britshit Nazis who deny the crimes and blame us back.


@BMD may be one day 50 years or 100 years from now India should do to British what British did to Indians after all nothing bad happened that right. You cannot blame us . After all it's fault Romans Vikings and Norman fault.
 
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I don't care about north America or other European attacked British. It does not concern me. British looted India for 300 years and killed millions of people all over world. That the truth.


Going by your logic India should invade Britlund after all it fair we were invaded by Europeans. You should not blame us .


It's really funny I never blamed you for anything I simply stated the truth . I think Brit are butt hurt and delusional that think of words we never said.


If it's anything it's your govt which brainwash people.


@mods . If go to western forum and deny Nazi crimes I would be banned immediately . But we Indians are really sissies to engage with these Britshit Nazis who deny the crimes and blame us back.


@BMD may be one day 50 years or 100 years from now India should do to British what British did to Indians after all nothing bad happened that right. You cannot blame us . After all it's fault Romans Vikings and Norman fault.
Nope, Britain looted India for 200 years, or 196 years to be exact. Britain was looted for over 1,000 years.

India invaded and looted Indonesia, Malaysia, Myanmar, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka among others. You had about 10 empires before Britain had one. Do some research.

I don't deny the empires were cruel, I simply respond to those who single out Britain as some kind of special case.

The world has changed as a result of WWII, empires are no longer normal. In any case, this is not the thread for it.
 
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Which would only help exports and hinder EU exports to the UK, thus promoting domestic production. Few large exporting nations have a strong currency.
You're not a manufacturing based economy, period and you haven't been so for quite sometime. You'd have to reinvent the wheel.
 
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You're not a manufacturing based economy, period and you haven't been so for quite sometime. You'd have to reinvent the wheel.
We'd need to rebuild our manufacturing base and that's exactly what's needed to destroy the apathetic quagmire economy we've become.
 
Nope, Britain looted India for 200 years, or 196 years to be exact. Britain was looted for over 1,000 years.

India invaded and looted Indonesia, Malaysia, Myanmar, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka among others. You had about 10 empires before Britain had one. Do some research.

I don't deny the empires were cruel, I simply respond to those who single out Britain as some kind of special case.

The world has changed as a result of WWII, empires are no longer normal. In any case, this is not the thread for it.


I single out country which looted my country . I don't care about others


And never looted Indonesia or Sri Lanka or any of its neighbours having Hindu kingdom does not imply loot .


It's Brit dogs which had east India company and its army kill and genocides and loot. It's Brit who made rules like only white people are humans. It's Brits who made lot of profit from Atlantic slave trade. It's Brits who put Indians and dogs not allowed .



It's not cruel it's genocides it's worse what Nazis did . Its darkest part of human history . British are epitome of what wrong with humanity and they destroyed hundreds of civilizations and wiped out native people and commercialized slave trade to benift themselves.


Britain was not looted anything. There was nothing to loot . Just bunch of barbarians who enjoy killing people
 
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Nope, Britain looted India for 200 years, or 196 years to be exact. Britain was looted for over 1,000 years.

India invaded and looted Indonesia, Malaysia, Myanmar, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka among others. You had about 10 empires before Britain had one. Do some research.

I don't deny the empires were cruel, I simply respond to those who single out Britain as some kind of special case.

The world has changed as a result of WWII, empires are no longer normal. In any case, this is not the thread for it.
@Amal

Our bunny has discovered something new. History revisionisn
 
I single out country which looted my country . I don't care about others
How convenient, you ignore the rest of history to support your deluded hypocrisy and self-pity. I think this conversation is done.
 
@Amal

Our bunny has discovered something new. History revisionisn
It's not revisionism. India had many empires and invaded and looted many countries before Britain invaded one single country. Britain was pillaged for the entire 1st millennium AD and beyond. These are all cast iron facts whether you like it or not.