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UPDATE 1-Taiwan leader rejects China's "one country, two systems" offer

UPDATE 1-Taiwan leader rejects China's "one country, two systems" offer


By Yimou Lee

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Reuters•October 10, 2019

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By Yimou Lee

TAIPEI, Oct 10 (Reuters) - Taiwan's president rejected on Thursday a "one country, two systems" formula that Beijing has suggested could be used to unify the island and the mainland, saying such an arrangement had set Hong Kong "on the edge of disorder".

President Tsai Ing-wen also vowed in a National Day speech to defend Taiwan's sovereignty, saying her government would safeguard freedom and democracy as Beijing ramps up pressure on the self-ruled island it considers a wayward province.

Tsai, who is seeking re-election in January amid criticism of her policy towards China, referred to the arrangement for the return of the former British colony of Hong Kong to Chinese rule in 1997 as a failure.

Hong Kong has been hit by months of anti-government protests triggered by widespread resentment of what many city residents see as relentless efforts by Beijing to exert control of their city despite the promises of autonomy.

China has proposed that Taiwan be brought under Chinese rule under a similar arrangement, but Tsai said Beijing's policies towards the island were a danger to regional stability.

"China is still threatening to impose its 'one country, two systems' model for Taiwan. Their diplomatic offensives and military coercion pose a serious challenge to regional stability and peace," Tsai said.

"When freedom and democracy are challenged, and when the Republic of China's existence and development are threatened, we must stand up and defend ourselves," Tsai said, referring to Taiwan by its official name.

"The overwhelming consensus among Taiwan's 23 million people is our rejection of 'one country, two systems,' regardless of party affiliation or political position."

Taiwan's National Day, marking the anniversary of the start of a 1911 uprising that led to the end of dynastic rule in China and the founding of a republic, was celebrated in Taipei with singing, dancing and parades.

Cold War hostility between the island and the mainland had eased over the past decade or so as both sides focused more on expanding business ties, but relations have cooled considerably since Tsai took office in 2016.
 
U.S. military assets seen near Taiwan Friday, Saturday
Taipei, April 11 (CNA) An American guided missile warship and two reconnaissance military aircraft have been operating near Taiwan over the past two days, after Chinese warplanes showed up in the area, Taiwan's Ministry of National Defense (MND) confirmed Saturday.

In a press statement, the MND confirmed that the USS Barry, an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer, sailed through the Taiwan Strait from north to south, but it did not say when.

According to local media, however, the U.S. warship transited through the strait Friday, tailed by the Chinese missile frigate, the Nantong.

A military officer told CNA that the USS Barry exited the Taiwan Strait before dawn Saturday.

In a Facebook post Saturday, the U.S. Pacific Fleet confirmed the USS Barry's passage though the Taiwan Strait.

"The Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Barry (DDG 52) conducts underway operations in the Taiwan Strait," the post was headed and included several photos.

"Barry is forward-deployed to the U.S. 7th Fleet area of operations in support of security and stability in the Indo-Pacific region," one of the photo captions read.

Meanwhile, a U.S. EP-3E electronic warfare and reconnaissance aircraft was seen flying south of Taiwan Saturday morning, according to a flight chart posted on Twitter by Aircraft Spots, a military air movement tracker.

According to MND data, it was the seventh time since March 25 that a U.S. military aircraft was seen passing near Taiwan.

The MND said it has been closely monitoring the movement of vessels and aircraft near Taiwan territorial waters and airspace and had detected no irregularities.

On Friday morning, Aircraft Spots showed a U.S. military aircraft, the RC-135U Combat Sent, flying over the South China Sea. The aircraft is usually deployed to locate and identify foreign military land, naval and airborne radar signals for analysis.

The U.S. military vessels and aircraft showed up in the area after Chinese J-11 jet fighters, KJ-500 early warning aircraft, and H-6 bombers were spotted Friday morning flying southwest of Taiwan and entering the Bashi Channel between Taiwan and the Philippines.

Su Tzu-yun (蘇紫雲), a researcher at the Institute for National Defense and Security Research, said the U.S. aircraft were probably monitoring the activities of the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA).

The U.S. might also be sending a signal to some countries by allowing flight trackers such as Aircraft Spots to record the movements of its aircraft, he said.
U.S. military assets seen near Taiwan Friday, Saturday - Focus Taiwan
 
Taiwan says Chinese carrier group drills close to island

Taiwan says Chinese carrier group drills close to island
ReutersApril 12, 2020, 3:02 PM GMT+1

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Taiwan says Chinese carrier group drills close to island
FILE PHOTO: Chinese Navy’s Aircraft carrier Liaoning takes part in a naval parade off the eastern port city of Qingdao, to mark the 70th anniversary of the founding of Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy
TAIPEI (Reuters) - A Chinese naval flotilla led by the country's first aircraft carrier passed by the eastern and southern coasts of Taiwan on Sunday to carry out drills, the island's defence ministry said, in the latest uptick in military tensions.

Democratically-ruled Taiwan, claimed by China as its sacred territory, has complained of an increased Chinese military presence near the island in the past few weeks, and has told China is should be concentrating on fighting the new coronavirus rather than menacing the island.

Taiwan's Defence Ministry said the Liaoning, China's first operational aircraft carrier, and five accompanying warships passed first through the Miyako Strait, located between Japan's islands of Miyako and Okinawa, to the northeast of Taiwan, on Saturday.

On Sunday, the carrier group sailed in waters on Taiwan's east coast and then into seas to the south of Taiwan, carrying out exercises, the ministry added in a statement.

Taiwan's armed forces monitored the carrier group's progress throughout and "completed relevant actions in response to ensure national security and protect regional peace and stability", it added, without elaborating.

Taiwan typically scrambles fighter jets in response to Chinese manoeuvres.

There was no immediate response from China's Defence Ministry.

China's two aircraft carriers are no strangers to the waters around Taiwan.

In late December, shortly before presidential and parliamentary elections in Taiwan, China's newest aircraft carrier, the Shandong, sailed through the sensitive Taiwan Strait, a move condemned by Taiwan as attempted intimidation.

The U.S. military has also been active in waters near Taiwan recently.

A U.S. Navy guided-missile destroyer sailed through the Taiwan Strait on Friday, the same day that Chinese fighter jets drilled in waters close to the island.

Taiwan is China's most sensitive territorial issue and a potential military flashpoint. China has never renounced the use of force to bring the island under its control.
 
The head of INDOPACOM says a war between Taiwan and China is likely within 6 years at the SASC. It's a very serious prediction.

www.express.co.uk

US official warns China beats US in 'war games' over Taiwan

CHINA'S splurge on defence spending and military arms has caused US officials and experts to raise concerns they will not be able to defend Taiwan in a war.
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He told the Senate Armed Services Committee: “We are accumulating risk that may embolden China to unilaterally change the status quo before our forces may be able to deliver an effective response.

"Taiwan is clearly one of their ambitions. ... And I think the threat is manifest during this decade, in fact, in the next six years."
 
randomradio said:
The head of INDOPACOM says a war between Taiwan and China is likely within 6 years at the SASC. It's a very serious prediction.

www.express.co.uk

US official warns China beats US in 'war games' over Taiwan

CHINA'S splurge on defence spending and military arms has caused US officials and experts to raise concerns they will not be able to defend Taiwan in a war.
www.express.co.uk www.express.co.uk
He told the Senate Armed Services Committee: “We are accumulating risk that may embolden China to unilaterally change the status quo before our forces may be able to deliver an effective response.

"Taiwan is clearly one of their ambitions. ... And I think the threat is manifest during this decade, in fact, in the next six years."
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US should open a Missile Manufacturing plant in Taiwan

Tomahawks , ATACAMS , anything that can hit Chinese Coastline
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
US should open a Missile Manufacturing plant in Taiwan

Tomahawks , ATACAMS , anything that can hit Chinese Coastline
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The Taiwanese have better missiles than the Americans. What they need is next gen fighter jets because their current lot won't survive, and without air superiority, they are sitting ducks.

But they can't have next gen jets because the Americans don't want to give them F-35s, mainly because the US does not want to take a stand. The Taiwanese request for 60+ F-35s was rejected and replaced with modernised F-16s.
 
randomradio said:
The Taiwanese have better missiles than the Americans. What they need is next gen fighter jets because their current lot won't survive, and without air superiority, they are sitting ducks.

But they can't have next gen jets because the Americans don't want to give them F-35s, mainly because the US does not want to take a stand. The Taiwanese request for 60+ F-35s was rejected and replaced with modernised F-16s.
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Then Taiwan should buy RAFALE

We should offer them K 4 or Agni 4 or Shaurya missile 🤣
 
Right Now
Russia -- Ukraine
Israel -- Iran and Taiwan --China ;
These 3 frontscan get active anytime

US is focussed on Russia , So China is threatening TAIWAN
 
vvabhiram said:
Does Taiwan has a capable air force to withstand and repel PLA attack ?
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They are in the same situation as India. Both have more or less equal or superior 4th gen jets compared to PLAAF, but no stealth jets. And both of us are at least 15 years away from getting a decent number of next gen aircraft in. Taiwan's attempts at procuring the F-35 were stopped so they were forced to go for more F-16s instead.

Anyway, the US must have prepared to operate F-35s in Taiwan if the Chinese invade.
 
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I think the Chinese strategy is they will do these mock runs with increasing number of jets and Taiwan won't object to them. On a fine morning, the mock drill will become attack and Taiwan will have no answer for it.

I don't think US or its allies will come to rescue of Taiwan. I doubt their commitment to Taiwan's defence.
 
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vvabhiram said:
I think the Chinese strategy is they will do these mock runs with increasing number of jets and Taiwan won't object to them. On a fine morning, the mock drill will become attack and Taiwan will have no answer for it.

I don't think US or its allies will come to rescue of Taiwan. I doubt their commitment to Taiwan's defence.
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They won't be defenceless. Every time the Chinese fly, the Taiwanese will fly too. Let's not forget that the Taiwanese have better jets in terms of serivce life, scramble, turnaround etc, so they can react faster than the Chinese can.
 
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