Chinese Wuhan Virus Thread

Frozen is different from cancellation
Frozen indefinitely is as good as cancelled.

you can't confiscate someone's assets because you don't want to pay.
When you is US govt, yes you can.
Declare CPC as someone doing crime against humanity and act.

There is inherited trust when you enter into any contract, once this trust is broken nobody will enter into contract with you anymore, even rogue nations can't do what you are asking US to do.
You still don't get it. People buy US bonds because they are safest way to hold value while retaining liquidity. That does not stop US from freezing bonds held by a terrorist organization indefinitely.


And indeed rouge nation cann't do it. Because their own bonds are junk.
 
*Ahem* Changing CRR does not introduce NEW money in financial system. It merely allows less deposit to be held by banks and more available to be lended.

QE literally introduces new money. Central bank buys bonds or other financial instruments with new money it has introduced. This is what "printing new money" is.
That new money has liabilities.

They don't just print it because they have a printing press like you mentioned "unique ability to print dollars".

Frozen indefinitely is as good as cancelled.


When you is US govt, yes you can.
Declare CPC as someone doing crime against humanity and act.


You still don't get it. People buy US bonds because they are safest way to hold value while retaining liquidity. That does not stop US from freezing bonds held by a terrorist organization indefinitely.
So your plan is to declare Chinese Political Party CCP a terrorist organization and don't pay State of China for bonds they hold.

Please correct me if I am getting it wrong.
 
They don't just print it because they have a printing press like you mentioned "unique ability to print dollars".
IF they need they can. No one else can. They have done it before in 2008. To buy MBS from banks and put liquidity in banks.
So your plan is to declare Chinese Political Party CCP a terrorist organization and don't pay State of China for bonds they hold.
Thats one possibility. I am sure folks in US treasury can come up with even better ways.
 
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During normal operation of trains people die with heat and accidents but to die with hunger!

India just had record production of Wheat and Rice and during government coordinated effort if people are dying of hunger it's unforgivable. What does those overflowing FCI godowns mean when you can't even feed people in emergency.
 
During normal operation of trains people die with heat and accidents but to die with hunger!

India just had record production of Wheat and Rice and during government coordinated effort if people are dying of hunger it's unforgivable. What does those overflowing FCI godowns mean when you can't even feed people in emergency.
WTF! Indian railways cann't even route trains! Had it been any other time it would have been a joke. But in this situation, it is too tragic.
 
I think you are talking about Sovereign Guarantee (certainty), once you "cancel" any debt unilaterally, China will be well within in right to confiscate any asset US have in China, including US mega Companies like Apple and US embassy land.

You keep pushing this idea that nothing will happen if US don't honor the debt. How will you convince any other nation that you won't take away their money? US will become pariah overnight and every state will take out the money or confiscate assets, even the UK, Canada.

And credit ratings are of US so they won't downgrade? Seriously? Who will trust anything forget rating agencies after this? If there is anything that can finish US for barely a trillion dollars it is this step.
How will the US become a pariah when China started the pandemic? The UK and Canada will likely follow suit to account for their losses. This is not confiscation, it's compensation. The US also own all the credit ratings agencies.

The same would happen to other Chinese assets in the US and Europe if they retaliated that way. Don't forget the US and Europe invest heavily in each other's companies, so such a move by China wouldn't just affect the US.

I really don't understand why you're taking China's side on this, I could swear there are some Chinese spies on this site.
 
I really don't understand why you're taking China's side on this, I could swear there are some Chinese spies on this site.
Spies :love: Thats exciting, if they are reading this they can contact me via DM. Atleast something adventurous in lockdown.

Anyway I am not taking anyone's side, I am telling you that it doesn't work that way. If US 'cancel' China's debt what guarantee others have that you won't run away with their money? RBI has bought US Bonds, how do we know US won't run away with our money?

It will start a domino that US won't be able to handle.
 

THREAD on how UT & Chiu Sena are *censored*ing up Mumbai & Maharashtra thru the GoM & BMC, both controlled by the Chiu Sena. @RISING SUN @STEPHEN COHEN
It's undeniable that state government has acted very casually and, if you allow me, very criminally but his reasoning is not very strong in my personal opinion. I fear Mumbai is bound to loose in big way in coming future, I am certain of that because of high density of population, including but not limited to slums. Whenever any man-made or natural calamity hits region, Mumbai doesn't have a escape route.
Today CP Mumbai police has issued an order that anything written against State Govt on Facebook , Whatsapp Twitter will be prosecuted
I heard something like that but not sure what is barred exactly.
 
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WTF! Indian railways cann't even route trains! Had it been any other time it would have been a joke. But in this situation, it is too tragic.
This clusterfuek is happening due to middle section of railways management (and I mean ops team here if somebody else understand these nitty gritty) going haywire and by the time things get noticed by top management, it's already beyond control. Another insider thing, there is a turf & rights tussle going on, hence the results coming out in open during crisis situation. Nobody seems to have picked up this from top nor central authorities looking into the concerns.
 
My post was about people dying of hunger, late or early doesn't matter much to me.
Many people are making long journey from north to central and east India and from western India to central, north, east India. It's definitely taking toll on people, kids are facing bad condition plus this extreme heatwave of north currently. Yesterday in Allahabad it was 46.3. My native place Varanasi always hovers around 45 for many days until western disturbance hits. I am advising everybody to stay put where ever they are and try to reach out to local political and seva workers for help. Travelling in present condition is not only risky due to COVID-19 but also bad from health point of view as most trains are running without AC.
 


 
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Spies :love: Thats exciting, if they are reading this they can contact me via DM. Atleast something adventurous in lockdown.

Anyway I am not taking anyone's side, I am telling you that it doesn't work that way. If US 'cancel' China's debt what guarantee others have that you won't run away with their money? RBI has bought US Bonds, how do we know US won't run away with our money?

It will start a domino that US won't be able to handle.
They have the guarantee that the US has never done it to anyone who didn't start a global pandemic. If you start a global pandemic, it's no longer your money, it's compensation.

The threat of such compensation might also ensure that other epicentres respond appropriately and don't try cover it up in future.