Explosion near Red Fort: At least 9 dead, several injured in blast

Don't think we're resuming Operation Sindoor . The subdued response of GoI gave it away. Besides @Saaho rightly pointed out we don't have a case . There's no smoking gun .

In case of both Pulwama & Pahalgam tanzeems based in Paxtan claimed responsibility . Besides both of them were hugh profile blasts aimed at a particular demographic.

This one , though high profile was random selection . If reports are to be believed it was accidental. Muslims also perished in the attack.

Unless new evidence emerges to link Paxtan to the attack we won't move ahead. Another thing worth noting is the last time around we were on very good terms with the US . Not anymore. That definitely has a bearing on our reaction.

The good news or rather the perverted part of it is that this will buoy Fauji Foundation to miscalculate especially their Field Marshal who's now elevated himself to Commander of Defence Forces for life . Note : not single western country even took notice of the event.

As of now we ought to spend time cleaning up our backyard . Introduce &/or amend existing laws to make it more stringent to prevent another such incident .

That would also apply to our intelligence apparatus which was almost caught napping but for an alert cop in Kashmir whose sleuthing discovered the plot or so news agencies report.

In the meanwhile pump more into the various organisations battling Fauji Foundation in Paxtan. Since they've crossed multiple red lines with the kind of explosives accumulated & the blasts planned including bio / chemical warfare with the discovery of Ricin being mfgd , we must reciprocate.

Munira isn't going to back down. If anything he has doubled down . This will only end with a bullet in his head . Now whether it's executed by those tanzeems in Paxtan fighting the state or we do it or one of his own in Fauji Foundation remains to be seen .

But as long as he continues there's going to be problems for us & very dangerous problems I may add.
There is... one way however. Unknown people develop a particular liking to .... Munira. That will set an example for others too and I am sure as *censored* Munira is hated by others around him.

Bonus point, get PTI youthias to do it.
 
Don't think we're resuming Operation Sindoor . The subdued response of GoI gave it away. Besides @Saaho rightly pointed out we don't have a case . There's no smoking gun .

In case of both Pulwama & Pahalgam tanzeems based in Paxtan claimed responsibility . Besides both of them were hugh profile blasts aimed at a particular demographic.

This one , though high profile was random selection . If reports are to be believed it was accidental. Muslims also perished in the attack.

Unless new evidence emerges to link Paxtan to the attack we won't move ahead. Another thing worth noting is the last time around we were on very good terms with the US . Not anymore. That definitely has a bearing on our reaction.

The good news or rather the perverted part of it is that this will buoy Fauji Foundation to miscalculate especially their Field Marshal who's now elevated himself to Commander of Defence Forces for life . Note : not single western country even took notice of the event.

As of now we ought to spend time cleaning up our backyard . Introduce &/or amend existing laws to make it more stringent to prevent another such incident .

That would also apply to our intelligence apparatus which was almost caught napping but for an alert cop in Kashmir whose sleuthing discovered the plot or so news agencies report.

In the meanwhile pump more into the various organisations battling Fauji Foundation in Paxtan. Since they've crossed multiple red lines with the kind of explosives accumulated & the blasts planned including bio / chemical warfare with the discovery of Ricin being mfgd , we must reciprocate.

Munira isn't going to back down. If anything he has doubled down . This will only end with a bullet in his head . Now whether it's executed by those tanzeems in Paxtan fighting the state or we do it or one of his own in Fauji Foundation remains to be seen .

But as long as he continues there's going to be problems for us & very dangerous problems I may add.

Evidence against Pakistan —
1. Terror outfit is JeM, Pakistan based, funded and supported org. PA attended their funeral post Sindoor.
2. Pakistani handler, Umar Khattab.
3. Motive: Revenge of Bahawalpur strike which caused massive casualties on their side.


Therefore, I don’t fully support the fact that we don’t have a smokin gun. The only point of difference is that no one claimed the attack. Then again, if our response hinges on terror outfit acknowledging their crimes that is a bizarre policy to have at national level.
 
But who recruited the Imam that's the main question, was it some one from Pakistan high commission or some other link? This link is the most important part of the chain.
JeM operative was the handler of imam, muzaffar rather was leading the operation from Dubai & now he is in Afghanistan, he was in contact with the JeM handler who was guiding them,
well we need to get access of threema app,
Which can be goldmine for us
 
Is it possible for doctors to plan, recruit, qorganise, make bomb and explode in first attempt ?
 
Is it possible for doctors to plan, recruit, qorganise, make bomb and explode in first attempt ?

It's not limited to doctors and the imam caught till now. There will be local gangs, smuggling rings, Pak sympthaziers working in garages, logistics, some thugs, petty theft etc etc.. no ones acknowledging it since attention has been diverted but the ring is larger. And it thrives in the line between Terrorists and local criminals. Many won't even realise what they have aided in. As for planning part.. the handlers are there and travel beside pakistan ismt restricted.

This is me assumption but lakhs of people go to HAJ in Saudi. Whats the probability that contacts met there and discussed plans. Why Saudi only. There's no dearth of radicals roaming in west either.
Then, the biggest threat... A planner inside India. The one who coordinated in shadows. An ISI agent? Local born planner? Hopefully they get caught too. If doctors are turning terrorists, sucide bombers, whats to say there isn't a professors in dark too.
 
Hmm BD really wants to play with fire. Even if there is no overt action, hopefully RAW gives them what they deserve. All of this bravado is mostly because they have American hand on their head. We have to remind them their place.

Let's see how this goes. Our neighbouring region(s) will get lit up one way or the other.

It's not limited to doctors and the imam caught till now. There will be local gangs, smuggling rings, Pak sympthaziers working in garages, logistics, some thugs, petty theft etc etc.. no ones acknowledging it since attention has been diverted but the ring is larger. And it thrives in the line between Terrorists and local criminals. Many won't even realise what they have aided in. As for planning part.. the handlers are there and travel beside pakistan ismt restricted.

This is me assumption but lakhs of people go to HAJ in Saudi. Whats the probability that contacts met there and discussed plans. Why Saudi only. There's no dearth of radicals roaming in west either.
Then, the biggest threat... A planner inside India. The one who coordinated in shadows. An ISI agent? Local born planner? Hopefully they get caught too. If doctors are turning terrorists, sucide bombers, whats to say there isn't a professors in dark too.

Exactly, this is the reason - tackling this is like play whac-a-mole, there are simply way too many areas to cover! The sources funding this, supporting logistics for such will need to be hit. There is no shortcut to success in this game.
 
Hmm BD really wants to play with fire. Even if there is no overt action, hopefully RAW gives them what they deserve. All of this bravado is mostly because they have American hand on their head. We have to remind them their place.

It's about USA too. While we always knew it, the mask is off. Maybe we will need to get into Myanmar mess ourselves. Can't say. The covert side of things can't be analysed w/o info which obvio we don't have.
Let's see how this goes. Our neighbouring region(s) will get lit up one way or the other.



Exactly, this is the reason - tackling this is like play whac-a-mole, there are simply way too many areas to cover! The sources funding this, supporting logistics for such will need to be hit. There is no shortcut to success in this game.

Yup. No shortcuts for sure. Seriously needs to up the budget, mandate, tools of our agencies. Cause five eyes are at different scale and require dedicated counter-ops division. Especially in studying them. It gets built over years with experience.

Pannun saga already showed how much intelligence gap still persists.
 
It's about USA too. While we always knew it, the mask is off. Maybe we will need to get into Myanmar mess ourselves. Can't say. The covert side of things can't be analysed w/o info which obvio we don't have.


Yup. No shortcuts for sure. Seriously needs to up the budget, mandate, tools of our agencies. Cause five eyes are at different scale and require dedicated counter-ops division. Especially in studying them. It gets built over years with experience.

Pannun saga already showed how much intelligence gap still persists.

This GPS denial is actually worrying. How is this being done? That too near Delhi, Kolkata. Does anyone in the forum have any insight on this?

Interesting post from AD --


CCS news was fake?
 
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What do you mean?
I mean GPS signal interference is very common now a days with increasing conflict last few years and hence IATA has reported more such incident world over.

Now specific to recent Spoofing incident around major Indian cities. I feel tri-services are testing out some EW configuration around major cities which is causing issues and this is something they will not come out clean in public domain. Through DGCA a mandate passed that if commercial aircraft face any disruption report in 10 minute and a general area specific notice published out. Why Kolkata ? "We will start from east next time" ISPR statement in media.
 
This GPS denial is actually worrying. How is this being done? That too near Delhi, Kolkata. Does anyone in the forum have any insight on this?
More pertinent... who is doing it?

India?
Pakistan?
US?
or China?

India to interfere in operation of drones in its airspace.
Pakistan to interfere in operation of aircrafts and jets.
US to press India into accepting unequal trade agreement.
China to help Pakistan covertly.

So who is doing it?

Now, how it is being done? Simplest form will be spoofing. have a rogue satellite or drone spoof the GPS messages. Use existing message to synchronize your own internal atomic / high precision clock and generate spoofed messages with timestamps a bit different. So time of flight changes for the packet and reciever gets confused as where it is on earth.

Remember, you have to recieve messages from minimum 3 GPS satellites to conclude where you are. If one or two of them are drones or non-GPS satellites masquarading as a GPS satellite. You are cooked.

Now Mil-spec messages have cryptography to defend against it, but it is not foolproof. And if US is involved then crypto goes out of question. Because US has all the crypto keys to GPS.
 
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