Explosion near Red Fort: At least 9 dead, several injured in blast

[_Anonymous_]

Red Fort attack preparation in the works for 3 years

The Red Fort bombing has made it imperative for security agencies to focus their efforts on unearthing and uprooting terror modules all over the country. | India News

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First & foremost NIA is an investigative agency. IB is overburdened. We need an internal agency specialising in detecting terrorist ecosystem with a focus on Islamic terrorism in all its facets since I don't think we can have an anti terrorist agency dedicated to identifying elements of one religion only given the way our set up is configured.

Put another way this could run into problems with the judiciary & the opposition along with their supporting ecosystem in the media would throw as many spanners in the works as only they can .

Ideally we begin with identifying & monitoring domestic networks extending it to cover Paxtan & BD later. Whether it should then have powers to neutralize these elements is upto the GoI though IMO that'd be the preferred option.

We should also consider extending the operations of this agency to our immediate neighborhood encompassing all the nations we share a border with namely all SAARC nations including China & Myanmar.

Periodic reviews must be undertaken to identify lacunae in the operations & mandate such that if need be we must be prepared to extend its operations globally.

R&AW ought to continue as our premier external espionage agency focusing on other aspects . They also ought to have a small cell dedicated to Islamic terrorism so that we don't put all our eggs in 1 basket.

This can also serve the purpose of a back up as well as having a system of checks & balances since espionage & counter espionage are by their very nature extremely messy operations prone to being compromised.

Goes without saying both organisations ought to be insulated from each other's operations as such activities are in any case highly silo ised.

 

[RationalGuy]

First & foremost NIA is an investigative agency. IB is overburdened. We need an internal agency specialising in detecting terrorist ecosystem with a focus on Islamic terrorism in all its facets since I don't think we can have an anti terrorist agency dedicated to identifying elements of one religion only given the way our set up is configured.

Put another way this could run into problems with the judiciary & the opposition along with their supporting ecosystem in the media would throw as many spanners in the works as only they can .

Ideally we begin with identifying & monitoring domestic networks extending it to cover Paxtan & BD later. Whether it should then have powers to neutralize these elements is upto the GoI though IMO that'd be the preferred option.

We should also consider extending the operations of this agency to our immediate neighborhood encompassing all the nations we share a border with namely all SAARC nations including China & Myanmar.

Periodic reviews must be undertaken to identify lacunae in the operations & mandate such that if need be we must be prepared to extend its operations globally.

R&AW ought to continue as our premier external espionage agency focusing on other aspects . They also ought to have a small cell dedicated to Islamic terrorism so that we don't put all our eggs in 1 basket.

This can also serve the purpose of a back up as well as having a system of checks & balances since espionage & counter espionage are by their very nature extremely messy operations prone to being compromised.

Goes without saying both organisations ought to be insulated from each other's operations as such activities are in any case highly silo ised.

NIA iirc is supposed to be that agency which focuses on terror activites.

 

[screambowl]

How hard is it you think to bribe a few of their politicians, generals and police officials to do our bidding? Bangladesh is an even more corrupt shithole than India.

It's a long game and Pakistan alone is not active there. I don't know what government and political leadership wants but we Indians are known to keep the cards hidden. Even if you buy people there it wont expand Chicken's neck without military intervention.

 

[screambowl]

IB is overburdened. We need an internal agency specialising in detecting terrorist ecosystem with a focus on Islamic terrorism in all its facets since I don't think we can have an anti terrorist agency dedicated to identifying elements of one religion only given the way our set up is configured

You don't have enough specialist on islamic terror in India. Ajit Doval is one of them who understands the onset of islam in India and the world and the sects in it, may be there are few others but rest are mostly expert in financial terrorism and narco terrorism. They can detect false play but can't cure it. The reason is simple, there is no political will to have such officers.

 

[CATS @hunter]

Pakistan can also reply with the same from Bangladesh. Overt is a different game.

But unlike pakistan for Bangladesh this is gonna be new territory, there will be serious consequences, if they went ahead and roll with pakistan plan then Bangladesh will find Thier gaza movement,

A naval blockade & targeting Thier strategic institutions would cripple them, Bangladesh has More to lose than what it can gain

 

[_Anonymous_]

NIA iirc is supposed to be that agency which focuses on terror activites.

I stand corrected. It's the law enforcement arm for counter terrorism though I wasn't completely wrong on the matter.

What I was referring to is a surveiling cum espionage / counter espionage agency like IB dedicated exclusively to tackling terrorism or more specifically Islamic terrorism in India & our immediate neighborhood.

This can also be part of the mandate of NIA though by the looks of it , this function of surveiling cum espionage / counter espionage isn't much emphasised as far as its operational outlook goes.

The idea isn't a new one but failed to gain any traction in the past due to politics.

National Counter Terrorism Centre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Time to revive this.

 

[_Anonymous_]

But unlike pakistan for Bangladesh this is gonna be new territory, there will be serious consequences, if they went ahead and roll with pakistan plan then Bangladesh will find Thier gaza movement,

A naval blockade & targeting Thier strategic institutions would cripple them, Bangladesh has More to lose than what it can gain

With BD you need to keep things covert. There are plenty of fault lines within BD which are being exposed by the day.

Overt action means Yunus will play victim & cling to power manipulating public sympathy. The idea is to convert the BNP into the new AL for the former allies of the BNP , the Jamat e Islami ( JeI) will eventually become their primary political rival.

That's how things will be poised in the forthcoming elections early next year

 

[Speedster1]

I stand corrected. It's the law enforcement arm for counter terrorism though I wasn't completely wrong on the matter.

What I was referring to is a surveiling cum espionage / counter espionage agency like IB dedicated exclusively to tackling terrorism or more specifically Islamic terrorism in India & our immediate neighborhood.

This can also be part of the mandate of NIA though by the looks of it , this function of surveiling cum espionage / counter espionage isn't much emphasised as far as its operational outlook goes.

The idea isn't a new one but failed to gain any traction in the past due to politics.

National Counter Terrorism Centre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Time to revive this.

MHA already has a dedicated CT unit that monitors online jihadi propoganda among other things. Their capabilities are substantial.

A couple of years back, there were reports that affiliated agencies used Israeli Pegasus software to spy on journalists, etc.

 

[FalconSlayers]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1991438824547721340

https://twitter.com/x/status/1991447270769017196

 

[STEPHEN COHEN]

Not Related to Delhi Blast But Something More Sinister, the Conspiracy case of 2020

https://twitter.com/x/status/1991417344640585868

 

[Sathya]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1991438824547721340

https://twitter.com/x/status/1991447270769017196

That means, Ak 47 , grandes had been there.. but moved ..

 

[BoredBear]

That means, Ak 47 , grandes had been there.. but moved ..

The saddest part is that the editor of that newspaper is himself a Kashmiri Pandit. It’s difficult to understand how someone could choose to align with Jihadis that have caused such immense suffering to his own community, whether out of greed or other reasons.

 

[Sathya]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1991507068529045579

The searches conducted in presence of Executive Magistrate were carried in continuation of the investigation into the case registered against the media house Kashmir Times / http://kashmirtimes.com for their involvement in criminal conspiracy with secessionist and other anti-national entities operating within and outside Jammu & Kashmir.

The FIR indicates that this particular media platform has been allegedly:

•Disseminating terrorist and secessionist ideology,
•Spreading inflammatory, fabricated and false narratives,
•Attempting to radicalise the youth of Jammu & Kashmir,
•Inciting disaffection and separatist sentiments,
•Disturbing peace and public order, and
•Challenging the sovereignty and territorial integrity of India through print and digital content.


In the raid and search were conducted at the office premises of Kashmir Times, located at Residency Road, Jammu, the following incriminating arms and ammunition were recovered:

•01 Revolver
•14 Empty Cases of AK-series weapon
•03 Live AK Rounds
•04 Fired Bullets
•03 Grenade Safety Levers
•03 Suspected Pistol Rounds

 

[Saaho]

Overt action means Yunus will play victim & cling to power manipulating public sympathy. The idea is to convert the BNP into the new AL for the former allies of the BNP , the Jamat e Islami ( JeI) will eventually become their primary political rival.

Well, you dont let Yunus live. Kill him first so he can not play victim.

 

[_Anonymous_]

MHA already has a dedicated CT unit that monitors online jihadi propoganda among other things. Their capabilities are substantial.

A couple of years back, there were reports that affiliated agencies used Israeli Pegasus software to spy on journalists, etc.

Yet they were unable to detect the Al Falah conspiracy . If it were not for the alert intervention of a cop in Srinagar who decided to get at the bottom of a few miscreants posting JeM posters in downtown Srinagar , this plot would've proceeded the way it was intended to .

I read somewhere the reason security agencies could detect the Ricin plot in Ahmedabad was because they were monitoring international communication which is how they stumbled upon traffic between the Indian doctor synthesising Ricin & his handlers in Paxtan.

OTOH , there was no communication between the conspirators in the Al Falah case & their handlers along regular channels which is the reason they were undetected.

It now turns out they were communicating using Threema app which was banned in India & has end to end encryption without the need for self identification like telephone numbers , mail id etc besides other features like server storage abroad , lack of electronic trail , self deletion of messages etc .

In case of the regular channels of communication over mail or apps like WA etc we mostly depend on co operation from the west especially the US since none of them have their servers here - one of the reasons we didn't pursue retaliation to Trump's tariffs & other security or defence related arrangements.

To the Americans' credit they didn't touch this aspect of our relationship as well. But going ahead we can't rely forever on these means forevy . Our CT abilities must improve exponentially which includes massive surveillance & detection - both electronic as well as human .

I don't think we're that prepared as of now . In this regard China's far ahead. We are wont to ridicule China for their massive internal security budget as compared to their defence budget. There's a reason they haven't had many terrorist incidents post those mass stabbings & other such incidents by Uighur terrorists around a decade ago , maybe more.

Ironically we should've spent this decade boosting up our external defence capacities & capabilities & next decade boosting up our internal security systems. We're doing whatever we're a decade late . We'd be boosting our external defence capacities and capabilities next decade & possibly targeting boosting our internal security systems the decade after next.

The absolute state of our security management !

 

[Sathya]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1991341601323430332

Unverified*

 

[_Anonymous_]

Well, you dont let Yunus live. Kill him first so he can not play victim.

Why should we do it when those opposed to him in BD can accomplish the same ? He's a front man , nothing more nor less. Target those who're the brains behind the entire scheming .

A lot of encouragement these guys get is because of our pussilanimous response especially in Khaleda Zia's tenure where a sitting BNP minister that too for home affairs Lutfozaman Babar & Zia's son were behind a massive arms shipment to India in the NE which happened to be seized in BD along with the involvement of the usual Jamati scum .

Eventually the case was prosecuted & sentences handed down to the accused including Lutfozaman Babar the ex home minister including a death sentence which was stayed . He was acquitted of all cases following the fall of the SHW regime.

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[_Anonymous_]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1991507068529045579

The searches conducted in presence of Executive Magistrate were carried in continuation of the investigation into the case registered against the media house Kashmir Times / http://kashmirtimes.com for their involvement in criminal conspiracy with secessionist and other anti-national entities operating within and outside Jammu & Kashmir.

The FIR indicates that this particular media platform has been allegedly:

•Disseminating terrorist and secessionist ideology,
•Spreading inflammatory, fabricated and false narratives,
•Attempting to radicalise the youth of Jammu & Kashmir,
•Inciting disaffection and separatist sentiments,
•Disturbing peace and public order, and
•Challenging the sovereignty and territorial integrity of India through print and digital content.


In the raid and search were conducted at the office premises of Kashmir Times, located at Residency Road, Jammu, the following incriminating arms and ammunition were recovered:

•01 Revolver
•14 Empty Cases of AK-series weapon
•03 Live AK Rounds
•04 Fired Bullets
•03 Grenade Safety Levers
•03 Suspected Pistol Rounds

Tbh this looks more like a plant but organisations like these need to be shut down permanently & those behind such organisations locked up with the keys thrown away.

Unfortunately we're too soft a state for such measures which means such organisations - virtually overground networks for terrorist organisations will continue to operate while at the same time we'd have terrorist incidents with people continuing to die & half hearted measures like these undertaken.

 

[BoredBear]

Well, you dont let Yunus live. Kill him first so he can not play victim.

Nah killing Yunus would be counter productive. Unless he is killed by their own people in a way that make it look like mob justice. There are other ways to deal with him..

 

[FalconSlayers]

The saddest part is that the editor of that newspaper is himself a Kashmiri Pandit. It’s difficult to understand how someone could choose to align with Jihadis that have caused such immense suffering to his own community, whether out of greed or other reasons.

She's a west pakistan refugee as we in J&K call them, not a battni.