Explosion near Red Fort: At least 9 dead, several injured in blast


The absolute state of our security management. I recall the lid on this was blown during the Wuhan Virus Pandemic. Even so this the record of students going through official channels to pursue a formal education. There's no record of those going to pursue religious education there. This part is true about BD too.
 
Yet they were unable to detect the Al Falah conspiracy . If it were not for the alert intervention of a cop in Srinagar who decided to get at the bottom of a few miscreants posting JeM posters in downtown Srinagar , this plot would've proceeded the way it was intended to .

I read somewhere the reason security agencies could detect the Ricin plot in Ahmedabad was because they were monitoring international communication which is how they stumbled upon traffic between the Indian doctor synthesising Ricin & his handlers in Paxtan.

OTOH , there was no communication between the conspirators in the Al Falah case & their handlers along regular channels which is the reason they were undetected.

It now turns out they were communicating using Threema app which was banned in India & has end to end encryption without the need for self identification like telephone numbers , mail id etc besides other features like server storage abroad , lack of electronic trail , self deletion of messages etc .

In case of the regular channels of communication over mail or apps like WA etc we mostly depend on co operation from the west especially the US since none of them have their servers here - one of the reasons we didn't pursue retaliation to Trump's tariffs & other security or defence related arrangements.

To the Americans' credit they didn't touch this aspect of our relationship as well. But going ahead we can't rely forever on these means forevy . Our CT abilities must improve exponentially which includes massive surveillance & detection - both electronic as well as human .

I don't think we're that prepared as of now . In this regard China's far ahead. We are wont to ridicule China for their massive internal security budget as compared to their defence budget. There's a reason they haven't had many terrorist incidents post those mass stabbings & other such incidents by Uighur terrorists around a decade ago , maybe more.

Ironically we should've spent this decade boosting up our external defence capacities & capabilities & next decade boosting up our internal security systems. We're doing whatever we're a decade late . We'd be boosting our external defence capacities and capabilities next decade & possibly targeting boosting our internal security systems the decade after next.

The absolute state of our security management !
We'd need nothing less than Xinjiang style gulags to deradicalize the terrorist sympathizers within J&K and even other states.

Perhaps GoI restored statehood too soon to J&K. Even though the state police and security agencies are under the direct control of the Centre, pro-Pak leaders like Omar Abdullah shouldn't have been in the CMs position.
 

The absolute state of our security management. I recall the lid on this was blown during the Wuhan Virus Pandemic. Even so this the record of students going through official channels to pursue a formal education. There's no record of those going to pursue religious education there. This part is true about BD too.
The lapses continue to pile on. Good that this chap brought this out in the open in the podcast. As always no explain will be provided as the purpose of such visas being issued is 'Education'. Incompetence and naivety galore.
 
We'd need nothing less than Xinjiang style gulags to deradicalize the terrorist sympathizers within J&K and even other states.
Not going to happen. The Milawdas in the SC won't permit it . In any case the opposition would be up in arms .

We're in the very initial phase of what I believe is existential war for the Hindus & Sanatan Dharma in the sub continent although ironically Paxtan was created on the reverse bogey of Islam khatre mein hain.

The rest of this century will see this war unfold within & without. Paxtan or BD breaking up will solve the problem to an extent but not completely for Paxtan existed even when it wasn't realised on the ground.
Perhaps GoI restored statehood too soon to J&K.
Once again credit to our Milawdas . We've a judiciary which looks to the west for validation & enacts first world judgements in a third world country . That said GoI didn't offer much resistance to the idea . Probably 5 years of relative peace in the valley deceived them into thinking normalcy was restored.

Having said that we don't know what transpired behind the scenes for judgements like this which affect NatSec are rarely made unilaterally whatever the postures of the parties may be in public.
Even though the state police and security agencies are under the direct control of the Centre, pro-Pak leaders like Omar Abdullah shouldn't have been in the CMs position.
Omar Abdullah like all Kashmiris are weathercocks. They go with the way the winds are blowing. Then again a Kashmiri makes up for his lack of bravery thru cunning & deception.

The Paxtanis realised that very early on which is the reason terrorism in the Valley was largely driven by the Punjabi Musalman , the Pashtuns & the occupants of the so called Aas Kashmir who're essentially Mirpuri scum along with the Sudans , Poonchi Muslims etc with the Kashmiri mostly providing window dressing.

As usual we came to the same conclusion much later in the insurgency.
 
The lapses continue to pile on. Good that this chap brought this out in the open in the podcast. As always no explain will be provided as the purpose of such visas being issued is 'Education'. Incompetence and naivety galore.
Not sure if the authorities have clamped down on it beyond non recognition of Paxtan degrees . Students should've been prohibited from going there especially the madrassah imparting deeni taalim . In fact it should be made a criminal offence. And this is just Paxtan we're talking about . No idea what's happening on the BD front.
 
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But unlike pakistan for Bangladesh this is gonna be new territory, there will be serious consequences, if they went ahead and roll with pakistan plan then Bangladesh will find Thier gaza movement,

A naval blockade & targeting Thier strategic institutions would cripple them, Bangladesh has More to lose than what it can gain

They have already gone ahead and there was some reason why CM of Assam spoke about expanding Chicken's neck. CM will be getting inputs from local police and also from center. Situation is very volatile.
 
After Delhi blast, our forces didn't announce much notam as we used to. Probably we pulled back from our policy of waging war on pak for terror attack.
 
Not going to happen. The Milawdas in the SC won't permit it . In any case the opposition would be up in arms .

We're in the very initial phase of what I believe is existential war for the Hindus & Sanatan Dharma in the sub continent although ironically Paxtan was created on the reverse bogey of Islam khatre mein hain.

The rest of this century will see this war unfold within & without. Paxtan or BD breaking up will solve the problem to an extent but not completely for Paxtan existed even when it wasn't realised on the ground.

Once again credit to our Milawdas . We've a judiciary which looks to the west for validation & enacts first world judgements in a third world country . That said GoI didn't offer much resistance to the idea . Probably 5 years of relative peace in the valley deceived them into thinking normalcy was restored.

Having said that we don't know what transpired behind the scenes for judgements like this which affect NatSec are rarely made unilaterally whatever the postures of the parties may be in public.

Omar Abdullah like all Kashmiris are weathercocks. They go with the way the winds are blowing. Then again a Kashmiri makes up for his lack of bravery thru cunning & deception.

The Paxtanis realised that very early on which is the reason terrorism in the Valley was largely driven by the Punjabi Musalman , the Pashtuns & the occupants of the so called Aas Kashmir who're essentially Mirpuri scum along with the Sudans , Poonchi Muslims etc with the Kashmiri mostly providing window dressing.

As usual we came to the same conclusion much later in the insurgency.
True that. The only other option imo is to double down on the resettlement of Kashmiri Pandits and other non-locals in the state.

We can do this under the garb of infra projects, deploying temporary laborers from Bihar, UP, etc and then giving them domicile certificates.

That will force Pak to show it's hand. ISI might try a Pahalgam type attack in response which will give us the justification we need to strike back militarily.
 
True that. The only other option imo is to double down on the resettlement of Kashmiri Pandits and other non-locals in the state.

We can do this under the garb of infra projects, deploying temporary laborers from Bihar, UP, etc and then giving them domicile certificates.

That will force Pak to show it's hand. ISI might try a Pahalgam type attack in response which will give us the justification we need to strike back militarily.
You want to use people as bait?
 
True that. The only other option imo is to double down on the resettlement of Kashmiri Pandits and other non-locals in the state.

We can do this under the garb of infra projects, deploying temporary laborers from Bihar, UP, etc and then giving them domicile certificates.

That will force Pak to show it's hand. ISI might try a Pahalgam type attack in response which will give us the justification we need to strike back militarily.

KP's are microscopic in numbers, are largely well settled elsewhere, and to be brutally honest - wouldn't be capable of holding down the state for India even if they had much bigger numbers + arms. There's also a very good chance of them flipping on India & non-Kashmiri Hindus from the rest of the country, and acting like double-dholkis the moment things become good for them in J&K again.

Their resettlement is not remotely a priority, and is best left as a slogan/stick to beat the Kashmiri Muslim/Pakistani narrative with at least until the territory is completely fixed & settled by other Hindus - this is a situation that will have to be fixed with any ex-servicemen interested in staying there + armed, trained Hindu settlers from the heartland backed by paramilitary forces and legal impunity to do and claim anything for themselves as they see fit (rather than sending just unarmed poor laborers). Separate Jammu from the clutches of Kashmir and its politicians, and raise + arm even more Hindu VDC's to the teeth with modern weapons throughout Jammu, consider becoming more liberal with gun licenses in such sensitive regions as well. Then start by bolstering Jammu's Hindu demography with the aforementioned armed volunteers, and after safeguarding Jammu - use it as a launchpad to move these people into a Kashmir which is permanently a Union Territory with a security state style setup and without a legislature, systematically nibbling away at it until it's Hindu majority and you reach the LoC.

Once you have this stable base and have reached the LoC, you can start working on plans for Gilgit Baltistan (which is strategically non-negotiable and must be taken in entirety), and select strategic parts (like Haji Pir Pass) of what Pakistan calls "Azaad Kashmir" - though most of it is useless and is full of radical Sunni Punjabi psychos from decades of demographic change. Any play for parts or all of PoJK without permanently solving J&K first will leave India overstretched and ineffective in frontier regions, much like the initial situation in '47-'48.
 
You want to use people as bait?
I agree that this is a risky approach. However, there's a need to address the root cause of the present situation- the demographic change in J&K since the 90s. Isreal has used the same strategy quite successfully in the West Bank region despite the loss of civilian lives.

Of course, this will need to be matched by investments in surveillance infra.
 
After Delhi blast, our forces didn't announce much notam as we used to. Probably we pulled back from our policy of waging war on pak for terror attack.

Neither the military nor the civilians are actually prepared for the war. Bantadhaar hai yahan. They will talk about US, new technologies just to show off their knowledge when it comes to action nil batta sanatta, ganwar.

When you go for war you have to prepare the nation.

Here Russia very often conducts such exercises, there is a separate ministry of civil defence too.
On October 1-2, the eve of Civil Defence Day, a tabletop exercise was conducted in all federal executive bodies, constituent entities of the ...

Here , this is British civil defence NGO , there are more training people

India has NDRF but they are only dispatched when situation strikes. They should be training people in the cities, villages for all sort of situations which can arise from war.

It is necessary in India due to very high population density.
 
True that. The only other option imo is to double down on the resettlement of Kashmiri Pandits and other non-locals in the state.
Doesn't help . They lack the numbers aren't aggressive & are mostly well settled across India. Why'd they return to Kashmir ? There's nothing in it for them there .
We can do this under the garb of infra projects, deploying temporary laborers from Bihar, UP, etc and then giving them domicile certificates.
Ex servicemen can be settled there . Tried & tested formula across the time space dynamic including in India. Then again we'd be creating a problem there which'd require enhanced presence of security personnel. Not required at the moment.

What we need are better surveillance tools - electronic & human . Whether all this would be under the purview of the NIA or we require a special agency on the lines of the IB dedicated to counter terrorism exclusively without enforcement powers specialising only in intelligence & espionage / counter espionage will have to be examined in detail by our security establishment.

The NCTC was a step in that direction. It needs to be revived & strengthened as per contemporary requirements.

That's not exactly a tall task . We have plenty of expertise in house in matters technical , that needs to be harnessed . If need be involve the pvt sector & the academia to partner with DRDO & security agencies .

We require better policy making , laws & a nudge to the judiciary to avoid situations like this . 👇


That will force Pak to show it's hand. ISI might try a Pahalgam type attack in response which will give us the justification we need to strike back militarily.
Fauji Foundation doesn't need to be baited. It's a gift which keeps on giving. We'd get our chance . Hopefully we're well prepared the next time whenever that is & don't terminate our operation without achieving more ambitious goals than just taking out terrorist infrastructure.
 
Need to, have to, should be, could be, would be, = basically means it won't happen.
Comparing our case with Israel is kinda not fair. Because Israel has USA behind them. It is easier for them to get away with anything. Not for us. The moment we start any kind of large scale settlement policy there. You can expect some troublesome things to happen. And you know our guys don't wanna deal with unnecessary geopolitical drama wrt to Kashmir. Even if there will be settlement, the government would prefer it happens slowly, naturally and steadily.
 
Comparing our case with Israel is kinda not fair. Because Israel has USA behind them.
You are signatory of NAM and a very proud nation like Russia, USA and China with amazing and rich history, why you need anyone behind you? One side you claim to be vishwaguru and then give excuses of all sorts.

The moment we start any kind of large scale settlement policy there. You can expect some troublesome things to happen. And you know our guys don't wanna deal with unnecessary geopolitical drama wrt to Kashmir. Even if there will be settlement, the government would prefer it happens slowly, naturally and steadily.

We are ball less people nothing else. I give you an example. There are family disputes happening in India for land okay, there you do not shiver firing and killing your own hindu relatives in villages but when it comes to national security and territorial came, suddenly oh my lord , international international very complex issue saar, very good diplomacy saar, USA in talks saar, giving technology saar. My Foot!

This is our genes, it is already declared in Mahabharat.
 
You are signatory of NAM and a very proud nation like Russia, USA and China with amazing and rich history, why you need anyone behind you? One side you claim to be vishwaguru and then give excuses of all sorts.



We are ball less people nothing else. I give you an example. There are family disputes happening in India for land okay, there you do not shiver firing and killing your own hindu relatives in villages but when it comes to national security and territorial came, suddenly oh my lord , international international very complex issue saar, very good diplomacy saar, USA in talks saar, giving technology saar. My Foot!

This is our genes, it is already declared in Mahabharat.
I get your point. But I don't think there is any sense to compare some village fight to international issue. Some kind of favourable or neutral atmosphere matter for a middle power like India, because we are not that self sufficient as the likes of China or Russia. You don't want a hostile geopolitical environment. NAM is anyways dead af.
 
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