Flying & Fighting in the JF-17 Thunder: Interview with Pakistan Air Force fighter pilot

The Next Conflict will be more violent
Bloodier and Intense

BVRs will be used Liberally and even Before
A plane comes closer to the border

And we will also have to hit their SAM sites and Radars before we move in

We need to double up our Brahmos and Shaurya production
I want another air battle And some cruise missiles attacks on each other before next month.come on man! Make it happen.we should fight forever xd
 
I want another air battle And some cruise missiles attacks on each other before next month.come on man! Make it happen.we should fight forever xd

PAF is Tired of this Five month long stand off

They want Rest

Plus Your F 16s and JF 17s are not in Fully
Serviceable Condition

The large number of CAPs and Extended
Flying hours have hurt their Serviceability

JF 17 already had a less than 100 Flying hours every year

They have been stretched badly

The 28 Oldest F 16s of 1983
and the Jordanian F 16s are in a Bad condition
 
PAF is Tired of this Five month long stand off

They want Rest

Plus Your F 16s and JF 17s are not in Fully
Serviceable Condition

The large number of CAPs and Extended
Flying hours have hurt their Serviceability

JF 17 already had a less than 100 Flying hours every year

They have been stretched badly

The 28 Oldest F 16s of 1983
and the Jordanian F 16s are in a Bad condition
Sir who cares about maintenance issues? When the time comes,we will hit each other.you love our airspace,we love yours.we need to hit each other again.escalation ladder must be below nuclear war.i want tanks on borders.kill each other hahahaha
 
Nothing new about the standoff..

Whoever said the Amraam parts came from the fallen F16.

Whether it's Psycops or not, don't know, but they are saying we don't have secure radios and recorded our communication.

Same thing we said about them.
 
His ground crew was sad that all his missiles were intact , none fired while they should have been happy that he returned alive.
And he is such a good guy , didnt even fire when he had 6 locked SUs , wow such a powerful radar.
And IAF is so poor man , we dont even have secure communications
Its a revelation that JF17s match mighty F16s , hats off
All hail mighty PAF
 
Message should have been passed on to our Mirage2000s that you are weapons free after PAF fired AMRAAMs at su30 mki.

Our M2ks were also under threat since they were under impression that its mere posturing while PAF was looking for a window to fire on them.

Bandar shot down would have derailed jf17 program and loss of faith in platform. Pakistan would have panicked into other expensive options.
 
Message should have been passed on to our Mirage2000s that you are weapons free after PAF fired AMRAAMs at su30 mki.

Our M2ks were also under threat since they were under impression that its mere posturing while PAF was looking for a window to fire on them.

Bandar shot down would have derailed jf17 program and loss of faith in platform. Pakistan would have panicked into other expensive options.

Everything happened quickly and suddenly

There WILL be a Next Time
 
Everything happened quickly and suddenly

There WILL be a Next Time


Everything happened quickly only from command and control point of view, the decision body that absorbs the information and command next action.

As I said before air combat will mostly range from tens of seconds to few minutes. You will never have enough time to segregate all info.

Best is to give all CAPs weapons free and decentralize decision making.
 
Everything happened quickly only from command and control point of view, the decision body that absorbs the information and command next action.

As I said before air combat will mostly range from tens of seconds to few minutes. You will never have enough time to segregate all info.

Best is to give all CAPs weapons free and decentralize decision making.

I put this question to Ex IAF people on Twitter, and they were saying the same thing

ROE have been changed NOW

The Only New thing aout Feb 27 was that
They fired BVR missile inside our territory

Now they can expect us to Return the Favour

Bandar shot down would have derailed jf17 program and loss of faith in platform. Pakistan would have panicked into other expensive options

Bandar stayed away from MICA

And Bandar did not fire its SD 10
 
Let me tell you one thing.you are facing a professional air Force which is paf.i remember panic on indian defence forum after Feb 27.they all wanted a revenge but it didn't happen.i heard stories of Multan,athmuqam and tarbela but they are just stories.i think if iaf wants to show that they also did great on Feb 27,they should at least release proof of f-16 kill.there must be video or something else that will prove it.i think it's not about perception, it's about evidence.on our side,imaginary su-30 kill remains a story.let me say forget about counting f-16 or su-30.give public proof.
 
Let me tell you one thing.you are facing a professional air Force which is paf.i remember panic on indian defence forum after Feb 27.they all wanted a revenge but it didn't happen.i heard stories of Multan,athmuqam and tarbela but they are just stories.i think if iaf wants to show that they also did great on Feb 27,they should at least release proof of f-16 kill.there must be video or something else that will prove it.i think it's not about perception, it's about evidence.on our side,imaginary su-30 kill remains a story.let me say forget about counting f-16 or su-30.give public proof.
Dude,you should read the original meaning between the lines...What he said.
1.It is quite clear that on 27th Feb,two fighters down and both side accepted it.
2.Simply we can not hide Mi 17 crash.. Within minutes pictures of the crash site popped up in social media...How can we hide a massive su 30mki with 2 engine and 3000 lt of fuel....
3.We did not shut down internet but your site was totaly shut down..
4.Regarding communication chatter,what IAF said before,the same thing PAF told you only now...Making a well crafted story take time,we understand it buddy...
5.Where the dog fight took place,it was not other then Kashmir,peoples are not friendly towards us...Even they did celebrate the Mi 17crash.... Humiliating India is the most favourable option for them...But from that day to today even a single pictures come out to prove your theory..None...
6.why did you not mention the exact place of crash site of your imaginary su30 kill.You have radar evidence,ew evidence, communication chatter evidence,input of local intelligence...
7.Dude,when PAF attacked,the ratio of the fighters was just 1:3...It was only 8 no. Of Fighters against 24 no of fighters...It was the pilots skill,better traning, superior technology just save that day...
 
Dude,you should read the original meaning between the lines...What he said.
1.It is quite clear that on 27th Feb,two fighters down and both side accepted it.
2.Simply we can not hide Mi 17 crash.. Within minutes pictures of the crash site popped up in social media...How can we hide a massive su 30mki with 2 engine and 3000 lt of fuel....
3.We did not shut down internet but your site was totaly shut down..
4.Regarding communication chatter,what IAF said before,the same thing PAF told you only now...Making a well crafted story take time,we understand it buddy...
5.Where the dog fight took place,it was not other then Kashmir,peoples are not friendly towards us...Even they did celebrate the Mi 17crash.... Humiliating India is the most favourable option for them...But from that day to today even a single pictures come out to prove your theory..None...
6.why did you not mention the exact place of crash site of your imaginary su30 kill.You have radar evidence,ew evidence, communication chatter evidence,input of local intelligence...
7.Dude,when PAF attacked,the ratio of the fighters was just 1:3...It was only 8 no. Of Fighters against 24 no of fighters...It was the pilots skill,better traning, superior technology just save that day...
I appreciate the effort but you can't wake a person who is only pretending to be asleep.
Let him and his countrymen keep on deluding each other while we steadfastly build our strength.

On a side note, I totally understand Indian govt. reluctance to talk with pathological liars.I take the same approach when dealing with people I perceive to be intellectually dishonest or just plain stupid- total avoidance.
 
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Let me tell you one thing.you are facing a professional air Force which is paf.i remember panic on indian defence forum after Feb 27.they all wanted a revenge but it didn't happen.i heard stories of Multan,athmuqam and tarbela but they are just stories.i think if iaf wants to show that they also did great on Feb 27,they should at least release proof of f-16 kill.there must be video or something else that will prove it.i think it's not about perception, it's about evidence.on our side,imaginary su-30 kill remains a story.let me say forget about counting f-16 or su-30.give public proof.

The fact is that Pakistan has LOST ALL
The Will to fight with India

Earlier you people were strong and brave

This time you are most desperate for peace
As seen in last 20 years

Why did it happen

What has made you so desperate

Finding a new strategic direction | The Express Tribune
 
Dude,you should read the original meaning between the lines...What he said.
1.It is quite clear that on 27th Feb,two fighters down and both side accepted it.
2.Simply we can not hide Mi 17 crash.. Within minutes pictures of the crash site popped up in social media...How can we hide a massive su 30mki with 2 engine and 3000 lt of fuel....
3.We did not shut down internet but your site was totaly shut down..
4.Regarding communication chatter,what IAF said before,the same thing PAF told you only now...Making a well crafted story take time,we understand it buddy...
5.Where the dog fight took place,it was not other then Kashmir,peoples are not friendly towards us...Even they did celebrate the Mi 17crash.... Humiliating India is the most favourable option for them...But from that day to today even a single pictures come out to prove your theory..None...
6.why did you not mention the exact place of crash site of your imaginary su30 kill.You have radar evidence,ew evidence, communication chatter evidence,input of local intelligence...
7.Dude,when PAF attacked,the ratio of the fighters was just 1:3...It was only 8 no. Of Fighters against 24 no of fighters...It was the pilots skill,better traning, superior technology just save that day...
There are many points from our side as well which I can write here but kindly don't make yourself angry.think logically.
1)after dogfight or air battle,you sacked your officer immediately.reasons unknown.

2) black box of helicopter vanished,still not found.did f-16 intruded deep in indian territory?

3) without black box,can we assume the findings of iaf is based on reality that it's a fratricide?

4)mig-21 fires missile but all missiles can be seen clearly with the plane on the ground.where was wingman of abhinandan?

5) significance of pir panjal range and claims of both parties of su-30 and f-16 kill.no evidence.only evidence is video(probably f-16 kill).israeli officials visited iaf and shown awacs data.why israeli visited iaf is also a mystery.

The fact is that Pakistan has LOST ALL
The Will to fight with India

Earlier you people were strong and brave

This time you are most desperate for peace
As seen in last 20 years

Why did it happen

What has made you so desperate

Finding a new strategic direction | The Express Tribune
Right now,we don't want war.first we want stable afghanistan.we will then turn our attention towards india.right now you are giving us precious time to reorganize ourselves and I must say thanks to your government for this precious time.xd
 
1)after dogfight or air battle,you sacked your officer immediately.reasons unknown.

2) black box of helicopter vanished,still not found.did f-16 intruded deep in indian territory?

3) without black box,can we assume the findings of iaf is based on reality that it's a fratricide?

4)mig-21 fires missile but all missiles can be seen clearly with the plane on the ground.where was wingman of abhinandan?

5) significance of pir panjal range and claims of both parties of su-30 and f-16 kill.no evidence.only evidence is video(probably f-16 kill).israeli officials visited iaf and shown awacs data.why israeli visited iaf is also a mystery
Full of ISPR fed or self generating BS. And you were claiming you are more independent thinking than other Pakistanis?

1) Did not happen. (You happily believe this crap because this is day to day in Pakistan)

2,3) Court of enquiry is going on. Not a single official source said anything like that. F-16 couldn't keep a full minute inside Indian territory let alone lock and fire a missile. If it does why do gafoor ka cover up the achievement?. (Too much thinking uh?)

4) R73 warhead detonated . Which is the whole point of using the missile.

5) दो पायलट

Also, Israeli pilot and their F-35 struck balakot not Indian. And it was the US stealth black hawk which crashed not Mi17. Pakistan was using the same tech which they used during Osama raid to bring down helicopter. That helicopter does not carry black box. Obviously these can't be said in open so.
 
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Full of ISPR fed or self generating BS. And you were claiming you are more independent thinking than other Pakistanis?

1) Did not happen. (You happily believe this crap because this is day to day in Pakistan)

2,3) Court of enquiry is going on. Not a single official source said anything like that. F-16 couldn't keep a full minute inside Indian territory let alone lock and fire a missile. If it does why do gafoor ka cover up the achievement?. (Too much thinking uh?)

4) R73 warhead detonated . Which is the whole point of using the missile.

5) दो पायलट

Also, Israeli pilot and their F-35 struck balakot not Indian. And it was the US stealth black hawk which crashed not Mi17. Pakistan was using the same tech which they used during Osama raid to bring down helicopter. That helicopter does not carry black box. Obviously these can't be said in open so.
Your response is not logical.it is emotional.

Full of ISPR fed or self generating BS. And you were claiming you are more independent thinking than other Pakistanis?

1) Did not happen. (You happily believe this crap because this is day to day in Pakistan)

2,3) Court of enquiry is going on. Not a single official source said anything like that. F-16 couldn't keep a full minute inside Indian territory let alone lock and fire a missile. If it does why do gafoor ka cover up the achievement?. (Too much thinking uh?)

4) R73 warhead detonated . Which is the whole point of using the missile.

5) दो पायलट

Also, Israeli pilot and their F-35 struck balakot not Indian. And it was the US stealth black hawk which crashed not Mi17. Pakistan was using the same tech which they used during Osama raid to bring down helicopter. That helicopter does not carry black box. Obviously these can't be said in open so.

1) IAF Air Marshal removed from WAC after heavy losses by PAF - World News Observer
 
Your response is not logical.it is emotional
Call others 'illogical' when out of answers. What is emotional here?
Some Pakistani site calling it self 'world news' to picture itself legit. Since everyone know the standard of news in the country.

He retired after “an illustrious career spanning over 39 years”. A simple search would have shown the truth.

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At a certain age officers retire here. I can understand how that is a hard concept to understand for a Pakistani.
 
Call others 'illogical' when out of answers. What is emotional here?

Some Pakistani site calling it self 'world news' to picture itself legit. Since everyone know the standard of news in the country.

He retired after “an illustrious career spanning over 39 years”. A simple search would have shown the truth.

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At a certain age officers retire here. I can understand how that is a hard concept to understand for a Pakistani.
In Pakistan after a certain age , officers run from the country lol
 
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You know why Pakistan is so hell bent on ruining his reputation? It's because he and IAF gave Pakistan such a slip on Balakot strikes that they never imagined it coming

Balakot: How India planned IAF airstrike in Pakistan | An inside story - Defense News

Senior air force officers maintained an aura of normalcy right up to the night of the strike to avoid Pakistani intelligence getting tipped off. On the evening of the 25th, Dhanoa attended a farewell dinner for the retiring Western Air Command chief Chandrashekharan Hari Kumar.

Though Hari Kumar was heading the team tasked to carry out the strike, it was decided to go ahead with his farewell party lest Pakistan think something was up if it was cancelled. It was only around 10 pm that Dhanoa got home and started monitoring the strike.


:D:D

Now you get it why your ISI is jumping up and down? Speaking of them, don't give dubious websites as link to back your claim which is run by a Pakistanis.

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Call others 'illogical' when out of answers. What is emotional here?

Some Pakistani site calling it self 'world news' to picture itself legit. Since everyone know the standard of news in the country.

He retired after “an illustrious career spanning over 39 years”. A simple search would have shown the truth.

thequint%2F2019-03%2F6b0134fe-acf7-4dd2-9012-9dc7cf0fd717%2FPIB_statement.JPG

At a certain age officers retire here. I can understand how that is a hard concept to understand for a Pakistani.
Yes retired prematurely probably sacked but this is how you are hiding things.this news came out after Feb 27.why after feb27? There is no logic.