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I think pakistani media took his tweets seriously and start claiming that israel was also invloved (can be true).
Bro thats very bad idea of giving access to US forces.


Israel's statement was, to paraphrase as am too lazy to look it up, "Israel stands with India in it's fight against Terrorism. The level of cooperation - sky is the limit"

Very pertinent and very important statement that people miss out.
 
Pakistan used H-2 SOW Raptor Precision guided glide bomb against India.
The parts found in Bhimber were ejected rocket booster the bomb uses in the initial phase.
Using this type of munition Pakistan targeted military installations 10-100 km inside Indian territoryView attachment 4693


Absolutely. Points to that.
 
yes, there are news reports that AMRAAMs were fired at Sukois and they dodged them. Apparently the Phalcons can give proof. why didn't they release these details before? Were they waiting for next century for this to come out?

Yesterday only the IAF and GoI realized that they need to keep the public engaged. Tired of tagging them whenever we are fighting the misperception on the social media.

Western 'analysts' and 'journalists' are having 'information' planted by Pakistan on them. Some idiot in GoI thinks that you can stay mum and go one forever.

One can absolutely refuse to divulge/comment on any military aspect of operation, but can still keep the public engaged. Suggested that a single point of contact and information be established with a political representative and reps of military services to give briefs and gag orders on all the ministers being BDA analysts!

Also our dear Maj Gen GD Bakshi needs to just close his mouth.
 
yes, there are news reports that AMRAAMs were fired at Sukois and they dodged them. Apparently the Phalcons can give proof. why didn't they release these details before?


24 Jets were informed of by the Air Force brief.
 
why not with the INDIAN PEOPLE?

You have been given the figures and shown the AMRAAM fragment. Sorry, the fragment can not be sent to you ;)

-Why didn't th FS confirm that 24 jets were approaching India?

The Airforce did confirm a large package of PAF.

-Why didn't he say that multiple AMRAAMs were fired at us and the Su 30 dodged them?

And that a pilot, on extended CAP was wearing an adult diaper too? Seriously?

-Why didn't he say that a Phalcon was in the air and that entire scene was tracked by them?

Are you supposed to tell what all assets were in place?

What kind of national security is lost by saying any of the above? None of these come from humint inside Pak. Nothing is compromised. Why the stupid silence?

Think hard on this question yourself.
 
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Nope. And that is the problem. Vishnu som came on air And revealed information. I thought that the foreign secretary brief that happened later would confirm it. But no. He just said we spotted jets and thwarted. Any semblance of details like 300 killed, 24 jets, all came from closed door briefings by netas who asked to be called sources. This is bs. Everything in Pakistan including the large loads of bs comes from officials of paf backed fully by imran. Here, no one is sticking their head out for anything.


Agreed. But then PM IK is getting to look increasingly like a fool.

One will never confirm actual number of dead until one can confirm from HUMINT/ELINT. And that is not to be disclosed at this time.

Targets hit in an Intelligence led operation are only confirmed, if at all, later.

Another point remains is that as per what I know through my grapevine, we had 2 Mig 21s and 4 Su 30 MKI in Nowshera of which a couple of Su-30 MKI went towards Reasi, scramble of Mirage 2000 would have been to intercept the second strike force. This was initial number. New numbers keep propping up of 6 Mig 21s or whatever.

That figure maybe due to subsequent aircrafts being put in air. But the initial lot was of Mig 21 and Su-30 (CAP) and Mirage 2000 scrambled as phase 2
 
When India started addressing Pakistan’s atrocities in Balochistan for the first time, it was a remarkable change in India’s foreign policy. His speech also shed light on his views on the same when he said, “Pakistan's vulnerability is many many times higher than that of India's. Once they know India has shifted to offensive defence they will find it is unaffordable for them. You can do one Mumbai you may lose Balochistan.”

The suggestions by Doval, which is called ‘Double Squeeze Strategy’, is premised on the clear understanding of Pakistan. Externally, Doval recommends that India should give a hard-hitting response to terrorists and their masters. Simultaneously, India should make Pakistan bear the cost of terrorist acts sponsored by its deep state.
Doval concluded his speech with asserting the need for “A strong, decisive leadership to give a strong message to terrorists and its sponsors and provide security to the citizens.”

After five years, India's response to Pakistani terror is no more defensive. With the Indian Air Force avenging the Pulwama terror attack, India has proved it once again that for each terrorist attack hatched by Pakistan on Indian soil, ‘the place where the offence is coming from’ will have to pay a very heavy price

No offense to whosoever wrote it, but ... whatever!

No action was taken on Baluchistan front after PM Modi addressing it in Aug 2015 and (Mr Brahma Chellany was it? Not very sure) some one claiming Pakistan will be broken within one year.

That address and failure to follow it through, was a big failure and a sign of weakness, which was taken at its face and place value and responded to.

For all the hoopla over the so called Doval Doctrine, a very sorry picture has emerged under both his and PM Modi's stewardship. It stemmed from the over hyped miscalculation in actual preparedness of our forces, our country and our polity to deal with Pakistan in a manner befitting a self respecting and strong nation.

In 2015 we were mobilized on exercises, the intent seemed there was something to be done, nothing officially we were told, we were on our routine desert exercise, but the formation was moving from depth after 03 years, as a whole and that takes tremendous amount of money and resources. And we came back. Still feeling that something had to be done which was not done.

Similarly, the situation seems to be panning out. The momentum to undertake a decisive military action to create a position for political resolution, is fast being lost. A nation and its citizens have a very short attention span and the public support that exists now, may not remain for long.

I suggest take such write ups for exactly what they are, write ups.
 
There is still a need for internally-carried jammers on fighters, the podded jammers cannot and will not always be carried. In fact I have no reason to believe a single IAF aircraft in the 8 that responded had a jammer on them, with the possible exception of the Mirages, which supposedly have an internally carried one.


Jammers were there .... confirmed.

Mig-21 was downed in a swarm of SAMs and AAMs. Which actually got him, is difficult to say, but AAM is a safer bet.
 
Hope he was not like this when in service.... But some how he suits for arnab way of journalism


He needs to be shut down. A couple of others too. Grandstanding and painting a painful image of services. The ex-Chiefs are more balanced. But I think that the media houses are booking those who narrate what they want to push (at times).
 
Agreed. But then PM IK is getting to look increasingly like a fool.

One will never confirm actual number of dead until one can confirm from HUMINT/ELINT. And that is not to be disclosed at this time.

Targets hit in an Intelligence led operation are only confirmed, if at all, later.

Another point remains is that as per what I know through my grapevine, we had 2 Mig 21s and 4 Su 30 MKI in Nowshera of which a couple of Su-30 MKI went towards Reasi, scramble of Mirage 2000 would have been to intercept the second strike force. This was initial number. New numbers keep propping up of 6 Mig 21s or whatever.

That figure maybe due to subsequent aircrafts being put in air. But the initial lot was of Mig 21 and Su-30 (CAP) and Mirage 2000 scrambled as phase 2

IK is looking like a fool not because he shared information but because he lied like a moron. Anyone with half a brain would agree that an AMRAAM means F 16 used. And 'a large strike package' is not 24 aircraft. As for giving out the diapers sizes of soldiers and other details, many ministers seem all too keen to give out that information at the drop of a hat behind closed doors. Even basic briefing is not being given. 'Should we tell them what assets were in the air'- we have alreay told them because we told the US and the Paks will obviously be told as a part of the inquiry. The only people looking at a black box here are the Indian people.

Make no mistake- this stupidity has cost us not only the Propoganda war but also affected our Dipomatic position with our allies. This will take a lot of work for us to take back to previous levels- if we ever mnage to do it
 
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