India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
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Its not an understanding its not productive enough. A bomb blast in the mainland wont make it to headlines the same way it does in kashmir unless it has very high casualties. Then there is also an advantage of a tighter clampdown in kashmir which will attract more youth against the state, similar strategy isn’t effective in the mainland.
HVTs from Pakistan Army neutralized ? Are these guys the ones Ankit referred to..?
If you observe closely... There has not been any "Jehadi" terror attack in Mainland India (excluding Kashmir) against "civilian" Targets, after Modi took over in 2014. Maybe India has built up the covert capabilities to hit Lahore, Karachi, Islamabad in retaliation to an attack on India's economic centers...
But, an attack on India's economic centers creates fear in the hearts of businessmen, investors and citizen alike... One 26/11 does more harm to the Indian psyche than 10 such incidents in a conflict zone like Kashmir...
After Modi came to power for the first time, I presume. Wasn't this "honeymoon period" of the new govt. used by the Pakistanis to test the new govt. by attacking the Indian high commission in Afghanistan(in Herat, I think) ? Why would the have agreements with us and we would agree to it at a time when Indians were dying in Afghanistan ?
That seems plausible. However it doesn't look like Delhi plans to leave attacks in Kashmir go unpunished either. The aerial raid, the near constant small arms fire, daily use of mortars and weekly use of artillery solidifies the point. From Pakistan's POV this is a rather sh*tty deal to make with the Indians. They gain nothing in return. I just find it hard to believe it.
The aim of Pakistan is to keep the pot boiling but not spill over. An attack on an economic center will undoubtedly attract a military action in which they will be forced to retaliate and will lead to war they are going to lose as always. They don't want war but enough tension to keep their avaam vary of India so to rule over them. Pulamala attack was a miss calculation on their side. They didn't expect so many casualties to begin with.
Well Sir it's the responsibility of Afghan government to protect foreigners there. If Indians have problem in Afghanistan Indian government can only speak to Afghan government. It's not mainland India. India if control and normalizes Kashmir that will be punching above the weight. India needs to build capability for next 10-15 years.
Well they were there to defend the AirBases and other military assets, with the proximity to LOC they did not really needed them ( in the role they expected to play)
1) ROE in place.....2) They were firing from their side of LOC 3) Aamraams out ranged Su30s arsenals.....
What makes you say the situation like this???
Let us look at the situation then: We went and bombed them at our will unchallenged, And their false bravado was in danger they needed some thing to show off to their country men and they tried to attack us from their side and thru a technical violation..... And even in that Violation got spanked and lost their best asset F16
Again almost all of them stayed inside their borders...
Okay .. but still 2 su30mki were facing 8 f16s, we should had more numbers... R27 range is more than aim120 and few months ago, IAF signed the deal for this missile...
I rembember Doval clarifying some time back that India has promised Pakistan that it will not go beyond the Balochistan-Iran border to its west and Afghanistan border to its north. As well POK on the east and Sindh on Arabian sea are the taken-for-granted assault areas. On the IB it will be business as usual.
The Indian preparedness for fighting 'Dirty' is a different topic altogether, something on which I shall not comment at all except to say that we are prepared to, as much as we can possibly be prepared, keeping in view the tardy execution of projects by DRDO & DPSUs who make tall claims and fail to provide enough in quantity and in time. As usual, ad hoc arrangements are made at the last minute. This happens in a country where the common citizen blames the forces for only wanting phoren maal. No sir, it is not that we want phoren maal. It is that the desi simply lies and cheats all the time and leaves us high and dry.
As for what specifically we can do - well, we can do a lot. There is never a 100% guarantee, be very clear. But there is more than enough chances of success.
Ah, the trigger point for what I wanted to say.
This is what the broad thought behind Indian actions is.
1. India can not reasonably find peace with Pakistan through dialogue. That has been made very clear. Every time we have tried to have peace through dialogue, an honourable peace at that, we have been taken as being weak and Pakistan has attempted to undermine us, either through direct military action or through proxies. Even the present dispensation in 1st innings, attempted to find peace, and we had Pathankot, Gurdaspur etc.
2. If one takes a look at the Turkish military offensive in Northern Syria today, you will see that the Turkish forces have consolidated the 30 kms buffer zone they wanted to, more or less, on day 3 of their offensive actions. This, from what can arguably be considered as the strongest military force, fighting against what is at best an irregular force bereft of heavy artillery/armour and no air force. The pertinent point is, it took Turkey 3 days, and they have yet to clear the area completely. Now extrapolating it to an Indo-Pak conflict let us consider the following:
a. Pakistan has an army that is quite well trained, equipped and strong
b. Pakistan has an air force that carries quite a punch
c. The Indo-Pak border has a variation in topography. From Mountains in North, to system of parallel canals in Punjab that afford natural
obstacles to an attacking force, to deserts in south and marshes to the farthest south.
3. From 2 above, India will need longer time in Punjab sector. Let there be non illusions on that. The layered canals will slow operations. Anyone who claims otherwise is living in a fools paradise. The only way we can achieve faster breakthroughs is if the Pakistani forces thin their troops to relieve pressure elsewhere. Otherwise - it shall be a tough going. Heavy in terms of costs.
4. India shall need 4 to 5 days to near Karachi in a hypothetical war. That is simply too long. Because, entering the city and securing it is another ball game, one that can go on for months.
5. In short, all those who fantasize that through military action we can 'defeat' Pakistan, need a reality check. What is defeat for Pakistan? For them, only their complete destruction will be their defeat (and for me too). And that can not be achieved militarily.
6. What we are seeing now is the policy that will undermine the Pakistani state in all spheres. And ironically, they know it and can do very little about it. Towards this aim, I shall mention undermentioned points:
a. Concentrated diplomatic offensive: This is the mainstay of Indian policy. By not responding to PAF actions on 27 Feb 2019, we ensured that the narrative remained of terror and not Kashmir dispute.
b. Stressing Pakistani Economy: Although the Pakistanis are our biggest allies in this, we have helped them along with actions along LC. By keeping it active, systematic targeting and cross LC engagements we have been able to achieve two objectives - (i) Emphasize counter terror operations and (ii) ensure high level of troop deployment and faster consumption of men and materials. This costs money.
c. Refusing to engage with Pakistan but engaging with its traditional allies. This has been the biggest coup. By not responding militarily to 27 Feb 2019, we have been able to keep the narrative to anti-terror operations and that is quite reasonable for the supporters of Pakistan, who have helped it in the past but find it imprudent and diplomatically embarassing to continue to help a 'friend' who has repeatedly been found to harbour terrorists.
In a nutshell, we will continue to see heavy pressure along LC and pressure on Pakistani economy will only grow worse over the coming months as even the Chinese have been told in no uncertain terms that their exposure to the Pakistani economy is their business, as Indian security and what it needs to do about it, is Indian business.
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The Salal dam in J&K on the Chenab river was originally a victim to the Indian govt.'s desires to make unilateral concessions to Pakistan for "peace". The agreements with the Pakistanis seriously damaged the sustainability of the dam and the Indian engineers viewed it as too high a price to pay for bilateralism. The concessions accelerated the problem of siltation. Around 2002 the problems became so bad that there were talks of shutting down the dam. There were some media reports then about the GoI reviewing some of the concessions made to the Pakistanis and releasing some funds to rectify some of the problems quietly without informing Pakistan(all of the problems cannot be rectified, at least not without creating a spectacle). Then all media coverage went away, nobody knew what happened to the plans to rectify the problems, nothing on this was ever reported again.
Fast forward to 2019, the dam is operating at its full capacity. All the talks of shutting it down fizzled away. So what changed ? The concessions made to Pakistan by the ABV govt. was due to Pak's fears of India causing an artificial flood or drought by using this dam. Remember Pakistan is heavily dependent of the Chenab for its agricultural and drinking water needs. If the dam is still working some of these concessions have been pulled back.
Fast forward to 2019, the dam is operating at its full capacity. All the talks of shutting it down fizzled away. So what changed ? The concessions made to Pakistan by the ABV govt. was due to Pak's fears of India causing an artificial flood or drought by using this dam. Remember Pakistan is heavily dependent of the Chenab for its agricultural and drinking water needs. If the dam is still working some of these concessions have been pulled back.
If the frequency of our actions have been increasing over the pase several months, what is the reason for the same - better intelligence or more resolve or both? What could be the reason for improved intelligence gathering since the BJP govt. is coming hard on the Kashmiris?
Watch and weep, we were told for decades we can be freinds with these people.
The only thing that runs in their veins is hatred and religion, the very basic founding principle of Pakistan, the place where they take solace after identity crises.
The only thing that runs in their veins is hatred and religion, the very basic founding principle of Pakistan, the place where they take solace after identity crises.
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Cant translate, in malayalam. AM hari Kumar's note about Balakot operation!
Cant translate, in malayalam. AM hari Kumar's note about Balakot operation!
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