India-Russia Relations

@Hydra , A thin line and you've one leg over the fence now. I only went to see that channel after @Shan pointed it out.

It's a problem hamas, pro jihadi and anti west propoganda account. If this is the kind of accounts you follow and cite.. i am doubtful if even one leg is on this side of fence now.

Yes, it's a major accusation and it's based on recent observations and I stand by it.
 
@Hydra , A thin line and you've one leg over the fence now. I only went to see that channel after @Shan pointed it out.

It's a problem hamas, pro jihadi and anti west propoganda account. If this is the kind of accounts you follow and cite.. i am doubtful if even one leg is on this side of fence now.

Yes, it's a major accusation and it's based on recent observations and I stand by it.

He's is in a literal sense an American dalal and apologist.

he's scared shitless about degrading US-India relations and is constantly targeting current Indian administration for degrading relations with US( even though its the orange monkey who initiated the degradation in relationship by demanding India kneel before US if we want any kind of deal).

So if he finds any peice of news whether true or not, which he can use to express his frustration and anger against current Indian administration his neurons instantly fire.
 
He's is in a literal sense an American dalal and apologist.

he's scared shitless about degrading US-India relations and is constantly targeting current Indian administration for degrading relations with US( even though its the orange monkey who initiated the degradation in relationship by demanding India kneel before US if we want any kind of deal).

So if he finds any peice of news whether true or not, which he can use to express his frustration and anger against current Indian administration his neurons instantly fire.

Whats there to be scared about? India was never dependent on US before. And won't be either.

This has gone beyond scared now. It's crossing line between induced paranoia and an adversarial info war campaign against Indian state. Not the administration.

Either he is so old going back to living during colonial days that he thinks white> brown or a new kid who got hinges on tom cruise and now white > brown meltdown
 
Whats there to be scared about? India was never dependent on US before. And won't be either.

This has gone beyond scared now. It's crossing line between induced paranoia and an adversarial info war campaign against Indian state. Not the administration.

Either he is so old going back to living during colonial days that he thinks white> brown or a new kid who got hinges on tom cruise and now white > brown meltdown
Could have personal or buisness relations to US.
Maybe diaspora.
 
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Could have personal or buisness relations to US.
Maybe diaspora.

Then it's even more hypocritical. If your business or livelihood is hindered @Hydra then discuss it with us on that front and let's come up with solution collectively like a smart businessman does.

Can't be about diaspora. They should know even better about trumps antics. The US govt just got shut down over finances. The Wire corterie?
 
Abe america ke Dalal, jf17 has been using Russian engine for more than a decade.

*world's most powerful*
lmao.
Its a 91kn afterburner thrust engine.

Abe america ke Dalal, jf17 has been using Russian engine for more than a decade.

*world's most powerful*
lmao.
Its a 91kn afterburner thrust engine.
Back then there is no restrictions from west or us on Russian oil purchase. Now a 50% tariff on us for buying oil from Russia. We are buying russian oil despite of having tremendous pressure to not to do that. Still Russia treat us like this. FYI india had formally request russia to halt engine supply to pak.
 
Back then there is no restrictions from west or us on Russian oil purchase. Now a 50% tariff on us for buying oil from Russia. We are buying russian oil despite of having tremendous pressure to not to do that. Still Russia treat us like this. FYI india had formally request russia to halt engine supply to pak.

And same russia is dependent on China for its dwindling space in international arena now.
And if you're still in delusion that US-India problems are due to russian oil.. then you've some serious growing up to do.

This is a multipolar world and India too maintain relations with Israel and Iran at the same time. This is different era. Stop measuring policies on metrics of cold war era.
If you think world of international politics is black and white without its nuances, then you're only doing disservice by peddling narrative.

And your source of info and hype is from a jihadi account. Your flawed logic and an attempt at justifying your narrative peddling can't justify your code of conduct these days.

Time and again you have not done due diligence in eagerness to criticise India. And cited pakistani info for your claims.
 
Back then there is no restrictions from west or us on Russian oil purchase. Now a 50% tariff on us for buying oil from Russia. We are buying russian oil despite of having tremendous pressure to not to do that. Still Russia treat us like this. FYI india had formally request russia to halt engine supply to pak.
We also sell artillary shell to ukraine indirectly.
We also sell fuel to ukraine.

Russia hasn't complained.



Russia is offering su57, s400 etc to India, china didn't complain.

Russia also sold weapons to China in past ,india didn't complain.
They are cooperating with china on some military projects we still didn't complain


We started selling weapons to armenia when Russia soured its relations with armenia, Russia didn't complained.

Israel is selling weapons to Azerbaijan and india is selling weapons to armenia, yet israel and india do not complain.


We cooperate with israel on weapons Iran doesn't complain, and we cooperate with Iran on Chabahar port, Israel doesn't complain.


I hope this can help you understand the dynamic of multi polar world

US continues to support pakistan, disregards our interest in Bangladesh etc, yet still complains about our relationship with Russia.


Those Russian engines are not a big threat, if Russia refuses china will supply its engines to jf17.
 
We also sell artillary shell to ukraine indirectly.
We also sell fuel to ukraine.

Russia hasn't complained.



Russia is offering su57, s400 etc to India, china didn't complain.

Russia also sold weapons to China in past ,india didn't complain.
They are cooperating with china on some military projects we still didn't complain


We started selling weapons to armenia when Russia soured its relations with armenia, Russia didn't complained.

Israel is selling weapons to Azerbaijan and india is selling weapons to armenia, yet israel and india do not complain.


We cooperate with israel on weapons Iran doesn't complain, and we cooperate with Iran on Chabahar port, Israel doesn't complain.


I hope this can help you understand the dynamic of multi polar world

US continues to support pakistan, disregards our interest in Bangladesh etc, yet still complains about our relationship with Russia.


Those Russian engines are not a big threat, if Russia refuses china will supply its engines to jf17.

Let's not forget S-400+CAATSA or MQ-9B used to monitor the western flank. American assets in pakistan spying ( ISR) on west asia and Russia while Chinese growing anti-west stance changing the dynamics between their assets in pakistan.
Chinese increasing influence in cold war client states and Russia's wariness and hedging with India.
Or India taking part in ZAPAD-2025 in Belarus, while increasing engagement with NATO for defense.
 
We also sell artillary shell to ukraine indirectly.
We also sell fuel to ukraine.

Russia hasn't complained.



Russia is offering su57, s400 etc to India, china didn't complain.

Russia also sold weapons to China in past ,india didn't complain.
They are cooperating with china on some military projects we still didn't complain


We started selling weapons to armenia when Russia soured its relations with armenia, Russia didn't complained.

Israel is selling weapons to Azerbaijan and india is selling weapons to armenia, yet israel and india do not complain.


We cooperate with israel on weapons Iran doesn't complain, and we cooperate with Iran on Chabahar port, Israel doesn't complain.


I hope this can help you understand the dynamic of multi polar world

US continues to support pakistan, disregards our interest in Bangladesh etc, yet still complains about our relationship with Russia.


Those Russian engines are not a big threat, if Russia refuses china will supply its engines to jf17.
We didn't sell weapons to Ukraine, period.
Why would china cimplains when India making a mistake by accepting a mediocre weapon like su57?
FYI when we placed orders for su30 mki, Russia sold su30 to china and let them to mass priduce su30 variants. Also they sold su35 to tjem. In reality Russia screwed us from both sides.
 
We didn't sell weapons to Ukraine, period.
Why would china cimplains when India making a mistake by accepting a mediocre weapon like su57?
FYI when we placed orders for su30 mki, Russia sold su30 to china and let them to mass priduce su30 variants. Also they sold su35 to tjem. In reality Russia screwed us from both sides.


As for rest, i learned bhais ke ange been bajane se kuch na hone waala.

What i have also learned, is that you are not a ignorant biased actor, you are a malicious/bad faith actor who is aware of the things yet still continues
Using selective facts, actually In many cases false news to push your agenda.


Regardless of how much you cry India ain't giving in to US demands neither abandoning its strategic autonomy, Regardless of US threats.
 


As for rest, i learned bhais ke ange been bajane se kuch na hone waala.

What i have also learned, is that you are not a ignorant biased actor, you are a malicious/bad faith actor who is aware of the things yet still continues
Using selective facts, actually In many cases false news to push your agenda.


Regardless of how much you cry India ain't giving in to US demands neither abandoning its strategic autonomy, Regardless of US threats.

Op sindoor has really unmasked many tukde tukde/ vested interest snakes.

He lives up to his username Hydra. (Marvel). He doesn't care if govt gives in , not gives in. He only cares about manipulating and distorting reality. A propagandists.

Ironically Hydra in Marvel originated from Nazi Germany. The first of the few, widely acknowledged modern propagandist state.
 


As for rest, i learned bhais ke ange been bajane se kuch na hone waala.

What i have also learned, is that you are not a ignorant biased actor, you are a malicious/bad faith actor who is aware of the things yet still continues
Using selective facts, actually In many cases false news to push your agenda.


Regardless of how much you cry India ain't giving in to US demands neither abandoning its strategic autonomy, Regardless of US threats.
We are not selling anything to Ukraine, as simple as that. If someone is re exporting to Ukraine wee aren't responsible for that.
 
Let's not forget S-400+CAATSA or MQ-9B used to monitor the western flank. American assets in pakistan spying ( ISR) on west asia and Russia while Chinese growing anti-west stance changing the dynamics between their assets in pakistan.
Chinese increasing influence in cold war client states and Russia's wariness and hedging with India.
Or India taking part in ZAPAD-2025 in Belarus, while increasing engagement with NATO for defense.
Even American soldiers were present in ZAPAD-2025 lol
 
Even Nayara (the refiner sanctioned by EU) is still buying copious amounts of Ural crude:


New ships & banking/payment channels are being arranged to get around EU sanctions on Nayara:

India clears four ships for EU-sanctioned Nayara’s domestic fuel supply; dollar trade restrictions persist

New customers are also being found so that the sanctioned refiner can continue exporting:

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/i...yara-s-exports-find-new-markets-13583722.html

Nayara Energy Adapts to EU Sanctions With Rupee Oil Payments

By Irina Slav - Sep 29, 2025, 2:30 AM CDT
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Nayara Energy, the Indian refiner that was slapped with EU sanctions because of its partial ownership by Rosneft, has started to recover from the blow, turning to payments in rupees for the oil it sources from the Russian company.

Bloomberg reported that Nayara had sought help from the Indian government and was currently working with local banks, including the State Bank of India, to pay for its crude oil purchases in local currency, according to unnamed sources.

Nayara Energy accounts for some 8% of India’s total refining capacity. It operates a 400,000-bpd refinery in Vadinar, which is the second-largest in the country. The facility is 49% owned by Russia’s Rosneft. Currently, the Vadinar facility is operating at 75% of capacity, and the level is rising, one of the Bloomberg sources told the publication.

The European Union included Nayara Energy in its 18th sanction package against Russia, announced in July. The sanctions disrupted the refinery’s operations, stranding tankers carrying fuels produced at the refinery en route to their destinations and prompting cancellations of purchase orders for the facility. That’s despite the fact that Nayara Energy was not really exporting any fuels to the European Union. Its main market in Europe was the UK, which has not adopted special sanctions against the company.

Meanwhile, Saudi Aramco and Iraq’s state oil marketing company SOMO stopped selling crude oil to the Nayara Energy refinery following the approval of the EU’s 18th sanction package. As a result, the refinery has boosted its intake of Russian Urals.

Also, as a result of the sanctions, Nayara Energy has increased its focus on the domestic market. The company supplies more than 6,500 fuel stations in India, per Bloomberg, and has started selling more to a fellow refiner, Hindustan Petroleum Corp. Nayara Energy has started loading more crude into floating storage and using tankers under Western sanctions to export its fuels.

Nayara Energy Adapts to EU Sanctions With Rupee Oil Payments | OilPrice.com