Indian Army Artillery Systems : News and Updates

randomradio said:
If it's a navigation problem, it will be related to GLONASS integration.

GLONASS had issues back then. There were less than adequate satellites in orbit and the Russians would have obviously not prioritized our area of influence.

18 satellites are necessary to cover Russia only, and that's what they had in 2008. 6 more were necessary to cover India. It took until 2011 for the remaining 6 + replacements for older ones to be launched.

You can see the list for 2008 to 2011.
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List of GLONASS satellites - Wikipedia

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So I wouldn't read too much into it. The delays on their end led to the development of our own Navic. And we are yet to fully develop our own constellation. We have just 4 out of a necessary 7, and we need to expand to 11+2 for full China coverage. It will take until 2029 to finish the first phase. And then we have a second GPS/GLONASS-class system in the works that requires 24 satellites.
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It's not a satnav problem. I doubt if India's bm 30 is capable of using precision-guided munition
Moreover, Russia did not mass produce satellite guided rockets in 2009
The regular Bm 30 rocket has a very sophisticated guidance method, I doubt the Indians have figured this out
The ordinary rocket used by the BM-30 rocket is equipped with an accelerometer, and the gun barrel only gives the initial flight direction of the rocket. During the flight, the accelerometer will measure the flight attitude and compare it with the initial launch direction. If there is any deviation, the gas rudder on the missile body will adjust it.
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LX1111 said:
It's not a satnav problem. I doubt if India's bm 30 is capable of using precision-guided munition
Moreover, Russia did not mass produce satellite guided rockets in 2009
The regular Bm 30 rocket has a very sophisticated guidance method, I doubt the Indians have figured this out
The ordinary rocket used by the BM-30 rocket is equipped with an accelerometer, and the gun barrel only gives the initial flight direction of the rocket. During the flight, the accelerometer will measure the flight attitude and compare it with the initial launch direction. If there is any deviation, the gas rudder on the missile body will adjust it.
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You are talking about the missile carrying an INS, with gyroscopes and accelerometers, like the 9M55.
 
Gautam said:
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Atmanirbhar push: India's home-gown artillery ammo to enter trials, focus on cutting imports: Report​


The final phase—development-cum-user trials—is scheduled for November. Once completed, these ammunition types will be ready for mass production and induction into Army service.

By Moneycontrol
June 03, 2025 / 08:25 IST
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India is steadily progressing toward self-reliance in artillery ammunition, with its first indigenously designed and developed rounds nearing completion, an Economic Times report said on Tuesday. As part of a Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) initiative aimed at reducing dependence on imports, multiple successful firing trials have already been conducted, the ET report added.

As per the sources cited by the ET, four different variants of 155 mm artillery ammunition have undergone testing over the past two years, all of which have met or exceeded the Indian Army’s performance benchmarks. These include high-explosive rounds, smoke rounds, and dual-purpose improved conventional munition (DPICM) rounds, the latter being capable of engaging broader target areas, the report further said.

The final phase—development-cum-user trials—is scheduled for November. Once completed, these ammunition types will be ready for mass production and induction into Army service. "The development is nearly complete, and we are now preparing for user trials," a source noted, adding that the Army has been actively involved throughout the project.

This ammunition is being developed under the Development Cum Production Partner (DCPP) framework, which involves collaboration with two industrial partners who initially created prototypes and will later handle bulk production. India faces substantial domestic and international demand for artillery ammunition, with projected requirements stretching over the next 15 years and significant export potential—estimated in the thousands of rounds.

The two industrial partners selected for the program are state-run SAI Ammunition India Limited and private-sector firm Economic Explosives, a subsidiary of Reliance Infrastructure. Both companies have worked closely with DRDO over the past two years to bring these indigenous ammunition variants to fruition.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/i...focus-on-cutting-imports-report-13088670.html
 
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Gautam said:

Atmanirbhar push: India's home-gown artillery ammo to enter trials, focus on cutting imports: Report​


The final phase—development-cum-user trials—is scheduled for November. Once completed, these ammunition types will be ready for mass production and induction into Army service.

By Moneycontrol
June 03, 2025 / 08:25 IST
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India is steadily progressing toward self-reliance in artillery ammunition, with its first indigenously designed and developed rounds nearing completion, an Economic Times report said on Tuesday. As part of a Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) initiative aimed at reducing dependence on imports, multiple successful firing trials have already been conducted, the ET report added.

As per the sources cited by the ET, four different variants of 155 mm artillery ammunition have undergone testing over the past two years, all of which have met or exceeded the Indian Army’s performance benchmarks. These include high-explosive rounds, smoke rounds, and dual-purpose improved conventional munition (DPICM) rounds, the latter being capable of engaging broader target areas, the report further said.

The final phase—development-cum-user trials—is scheduled for November. Once completed, these ammunition types will be ready for mass production and induction into Army service. "The development is nearly complete, and we are now preparing for user trials," a source noted, adding that the Army has been actively involved throughout the project.

This ammunition is being developed under the Development Cum Production Partner (DCPP) framework, which involves collaboration with two industrial partners who initially created prototypes and will later handle bulk production. India faces substantial domestic and international demand for artillery ammunition, with projected requirements stretching over the next 15 years and significant export potential—estimated in the thousands of rounds.

The two industrial partners selected for the program are state-run SAI Ammunition India Limited and private-sector firm Economic Explosives, a subsidiary of Reliance Infrastructure. Both companies have worked closely with DRDO over the past two years to bring these indigenous ammunition variants to fruition.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/i...focus-on-cutting-imports-report-13088670.html
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I dont get it. Dont we already produce and export all 155mm munition ?
 
Tatvamasi said:
I dont get it. Dont we already produce and export all 155mm munition ?
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People are always confused about indigneous production (MKI) and local IP (LCA).

The forces want indigenous production, it doesn't matter (to a certain extent) who the owns the technology. But DRDO wants local IP, they want to control the development and production process. If the forces do not have access to a local producer which owns the IP, they will settle for indigenous production regardless of ownership.

If you are Indian and own IP but produce outside India, then the forces are not interested in your IP.
 
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