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I'm super impressed that they were able to repair this frame and then fly this back!!!
Would want to know how they bought in the replacement blade - unless they keep spares at this base.
Still again super impressed
IA is very fast at inducting imported stuff but when it comes to Indian stuff, they will not show the urgency which they show for imported stuff. Long back I was waiting in the waiting room of RM Parrikar to meet him and I had a retd Maj. Gen of IA seated in front of me. We started a chat and soon we got into a verbal dual. He was not able to explain to me as to why we have different standards for Indian produced weapons? Just check out the time given to give clearance o M777 and the time being given to Indian products. Some may argue that M777 is proven product elsewhere and Indian product is not. But How about so called Indian conditions? As I stated long back and also told that Maj. Gen, "Mera Hai padh Thedha hai, sedha bhi karlangay.
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Other than the "A Race Pak Cannot Win" and "Pak's Evolving Nuclear Infrastructure" Threads at the other forum, are there any other threads either there, or here, where you've made detailed posts about how a future conflict between India and Pakistan would play out with a nuclear backdrop? I found the reading on those two threads to be very informative and interesting, and unfortunately I feel like most of your in-depth comments/discussions on that subject seem to be made at the other place, rather than here. I'm very interested in that subject matter and would love any more reading you could suggest, whether its your own posts, somebody else's posts, or any literature.
Other than the "A Race Pak Cannot Win" and "Pak's Evolving Nuclear Infrastructure" Threads at the other forum, are there any other threads either there, or here, where you've made detailed posts about how a future conflict between India and Pakistan would play out with a nuclear backdrop? I found the reading on those two threads to be very informative and interesting, and unfortunately I feel like most of your in-depth comments/discussions on that subject seem to be made at the other place, rather than here. I'm very interested in that subject matter and would love any more reading you could suggest, whether its your own posts, somebody else's posts, or any literature.
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India moves strategic ITBP command to Leh, to counter China’s military buildup in Tibet
By: PTI | Updated: January 17, 2019 8:18 PM
The Army, which carved out a separate Corps in Leh after Jammu and Srinagar following the Kargil intrusion in 1999, has been demanding operational control over the ITBP, a proposal rejected by the government time and again.
The Army, which carved out a separate Corps in Leh after Jammu and Srinagar following the Kargil intrusion in 1999, has been demanding operational control over the ITBP, a proposal rejected by the government time and again. (Reuters)
Amid growing concerns over the Chinese military buildup along the eastern flank of the country, the government has ordered moving a strategic ITBP command from its current base in Chandigarh by over 960 km to the border of Leh in Jammu and Kashmir, official sources said Thursday. The North West (NW) frontier of the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP), tasked to guard the 3,488-km long Sino-India border in peace times, is headed by an Inspector General (IG) of police-rank officer, which is equivalent to a Major General rank in the Army.
The frontier, according to documents accessed by PTI, has been ordered to move ‘lock, stock, and barrel’ by March-end and will have to be operationalised at the new location from April 1. The Leh district in the mountains of Jammu and Kashmir is the base for the 14 Corps of the Army that is headed by a Lt General-rank officer and the new shift will allow a better interaction between the two forces “for strategic and defence planning”, official sources said.
Also read| HAL’s Light Combat helicopter becomes India’s 1st to carry out air-to-air attack firing Mistral missile
The Army, which carved out a separate Corps in Leh after Jammu and Srinagar following the Kargil intrusion in 1999, has been demanding operational control over the ITBP, a proposal rejected by the government time and again. Having the ITBP and the Army at the same operational location will resolve these issues as well, the sources said.
ITBP Director General (DG) S S Deswal confirmed the move to the news agency, saying the new frontier will be moved from Chandigarh to Leh and will be made operational from April this year. “We have to be on the border and that is why the frontier is being sent to the forward area,” the DG said. The Union home ministry had first mooted the proposal for this strategic move in 2015 but it did not materialise owing to some “administrative reasons”.
As per the blueprint of deployment approved by the government for the ITBP, the Leh frontier of the border guarding force will have three sectors that will be based in Leh, Srinagar and Chandigarh and each of these will be headed by a Deputy IG-rank officer.
The ITBP, at present, has about half a dozen battalions deployed along the Chinese border that runs along Jammu and Kashmir and official sources said once the frontier starts operating from its new base in Leh, it will oversee the induction of more battalions that the force is inducting to enhance its presence on this icy, blizzard-prone mountainous border.
The ITBP has recently inducted a mechanised column of vehicles and communication equipment and all the weapons, artillery and combat paraphernalia will now be moved to Leh, that has both road and air connectivity. The force also has sanctions to create and refurbish 40 Border Out Posts (BoPs) in these icy heights of Ladakh, where personnel have to face hostile weather as the mercury slips to as low as minus 40 degrees Celsius and the altitude ranges from 8,000-14,000 feet.
Modern ‘composite’ BoPs, which have weather control mechanism and facilities for better drinking water and rest and recuperation, are also being created for the ITBP troops in this region. Leh, till now, had an ITBP sector establishment headed by a DIG-rank officer. The about-90,000-strong force not only guards the scenic Pangong lake in this area but also the upper reaches of the Himalayan mountain ranges that run across China.
As a part of its efforts to strengthen the military muscle along the China border, the government had similarly moved the North East (NE) frontier of the ITBP from Shillong in Meghalaya to Itanagar in Arunachal Pradesh in 2016. Both the Arunachal Pradesh and the Leh regions have seen frequent incidents of incursions, standoffs and few instances of physical pushing and shoving between the troops of the Chinese PLA and the ITBP and the Army personnel over the last few years.
The 73 day-long military standoff between India and China in Doklam (Sikkim) in 2017 is a grim reminder of these instances. Sources, however, added that 2018 saw an about 60 per cent decline in these incidents all along the eastern border front that the Indian states of Jammu and Kashmir, Himachal Pradesh, Uttarakhand, Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh share with China.
India moves strategic ITBP command to Leh, to counter China’s military buildup in Tibet
By: PTI | Updated: January 17, 2019 8:18 PM
The Army, which carved out a separate Corps in Leh after Jammu and Srinagar following the Kargil intrusion in 1999, has been demanding operational control over the ITBP, a proposal rejected by the government time and again.
The Army, which carved out a separate Corps in Leh after Jammu and Srinagar following the Kargil intrusion in 1999, has been demanding operational control over the ITBP, a proposal rejected by the government time and again. (Reuters)
Amid growing concerns over the Chinese military buildup along the eastern flank of the country, the government has ordered moving a strategic ITBP command from its current base in Chandigarh by over 960 km to the border of Leh in Jammu and Kashmir, official sources said Thursday. The North West (NW) frontier of the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP), tasked to guard the 3,488-km long Sino-India border in peace times, is headed by an Inspector General (IG) of police-rank officer, which is equivalent to a Major General rank in the Army.
The frontier, according to documents accessed by PTI, has been ordered to move ‘lock, stock, and barrel’ by March-end and will have to be operationalised at the new location from April 1. The Leh district in the mountains of Jammu and Kashmir is the base for the 14 Corps of the Army that is headed by a Lt General-rank officer and the new shift will allow a better interaction between the two forces “for strategic and defence planning”, official sources said.
Also read| HAL’s Light Combat helicopter becomes India’s 1st to carry out air-to-air attack firing Mistral missile
The Army, which carved out a separate Corps in Leh after Jammu and Srinagar following the Kargil intrusion in 1999, has been demanding operational control over the ITBP, a proposal rejected by the government time and again. Having the ITBP and the Army at the same operational location will resolve these issues as well, the sources said.
ITBP Director General (DG) S S Deswal confirmed the move to the news agency, saying the new frontier will be moved from Chandigarh to Leh and will be made operational from April this year. “We have to be on the border and that is why the frontier is being sent to the forward area,” the DG said. The Union home ministry had first mooted the proposal for this strategic move in 2015 but it did not materialise owing to some “administrative reasons”.
As per the blueprint of deployment approved by the government for the ITBP, the Leh frontier of the border guarding force will have three sectors that will be based in Leh, Srinagar and Chandigarh and each of these will be headed by a Deputy IG-rank officer.
The ITBP, at present, has about half a dozen battalions deployed along the Chinese border that runs along Jammu and Kashmir and official sources said once the frontier starts operating from its new base in Leh, it will oversee the induction of more battalions that the force is inducting to enhance its presence on this icy, blizzard-prone mountainous border.
The ITBP has recently inducted a mechanised column of vehicles and communication equipment and all the weapons, artillery and combat paraphernalia will now be moved to Leh, that has both road and air connectivity. The force also has sanctions to create and refurbish 40 Border Out Posts (BoPs) in these icy heights of Ladakh, where personnel have to face hostile weather as the mercury slips to as low as minus 40 degrees Celsius and the altitude ranges from 8,000-14,000 feet.
Modern ‘composite’ BoPs, which have weather control mechanism and facilities for better drinking water and rest and recuperation, are also being created for the ITBP troops in this region. Leh, till now, had an ITBP sector establishment headed by a DIG-rank officer. The about-90,000-strong force not only guards the scenic Pangong lake in this area but also the upper reaches of the Himalayan mountain ranges that run across China.
As a part of its efforts to strengthen the military muscle along the China border, the government had similarly moved the North East (NE) frontier of the ITBP from Shillong in Meghalaya to Itanagar in Arunachal Pradesh in 2016. Both the Arunachal Pradesh and the Leh regions have seen frequent incidents of incursions, standoffs and few instances of physical pushing and shoving between the troops of the Chinese PLA and the ITBP and the Army personnel over the last few years.
The 73 day-long military standoff between India and China in Doklam (Sikkim) in 2017 is a grim reminder of these instances. Sources, however, added that 2018 saw an about 60 per cent decline in these incidents all along the eastern border front that the Indian states of Jammu and Kashmir, Himachal Pradesh, Uttarakhand, Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh share with China.
India moves strategic ITBP command to Leh, to counter China’s military buildup in Tibet
Looming crisis: Lack of HAL blades for choppers likely to haunt army in Siachen
The air force has warned of a crisis looming on the troops at the world’s highest battleground, Siachen Glacier, as Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) fails to manufacture the rotor blades critical for its light helicopters. The soldiers deployed at an altitude above 20,000 feet depend heavily on the hardy fleet of Cheetah and Cheetal choppers for missions like casualty evacuation and critical supplies. The French-origin light choppers are now manufactured by the state-owned HAL. The specialised rotors blades give them adequate lift for operating at those punishing altitudes in unpredictable weather. HAL started making the Cheetah choppers in India in 1972. The air force expressed deep concern on the future of the ageing Cheetah fleet as well as its order for 10 Cheetal helicopters after HAL failed to produce the 85-series main rotor blades after their French parent stopped making the blades in 2012. The defence ministry was informed late last year that the 12 blades HAL had manufactured with transfer of technology from the original manufacturer Airbus Helicopters showed high level of vibration and were rendered unsuitable. The aircraft manufacturer is now down to its last few lots of rotor blades that were ordered before 2012, questioning their ability to support the helicopters in service. The availability of the fleet could come down if replacements are not in place, the air force informed. The air force is also concerned that its September 2015 order for 10 Cheetal helicopters will be impacted because of the non-availability of the 85-series blades. The helicopters were to be delivered last year as per the original schedule. The worries of the air force were compounded by the fact that a larger plan to replace the ageing fleet with the Russian-made Kamov Ka 226 helicopters has not taken off yet.
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Since there will be no more orders, they are killing of spares for more orders of LUH/Ka-226T.
One should ask, why IAF still bought more cheetal
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In a first, a lady officer will lead an Army contingent at the 71st Army Day parade
For the first time in the history of Indian Army, a lady officer will lead a contingent on the Army Day parade which is held every year on January 15. This is separate from the all-women marching contingent, which was led by a woman officer, Captain Divya Ajith, during the Republic Day parade in 2015.
Lieutenant Bhavana Kasturi will lead the Indian Army's Service Corps (ASC) contingent, comprising 144 male personnel, on the 71st Army Day parade.
The ASC, which handles the logistic support function of the Army, is participating after a gap of 23 years in the parade.
2019 - A year of firsts
1. Apart from Lt Kasturi, Captain Shikha Surabhi, a female officer, will be leading the Army's Daredevils Motorcycle Display team for the first time, comprising 33 men riding nine bikes in a pyramid formation. The Daredevils is a part of the Army's Corps of Signals - a combat support arm that holds 24 world records, including the Guinness World Record.
Captain Shikha will be seen saluting the guests while riding a bike and the entire Daredevils contingent will be led by Major Manpreet Singh.
Captain Shikha practicing with the Daredevils team.(Image: ANI)
The team will also participate in the Republic Day parade on January 26, 2019, besides the Army Day parade.
The contingent will see two male officers as contingent commanders. Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Bipin Rawat will take salute on this occasion.
2. This year, the Army Day parade along with the Republic Day parade will also see, for the first time, display of M777 A2 Ultra Light Howitzer and K9 Vajra-T artillery.
The importance of these guns is that they are the first major artillery procurement since the Bofors were bought in the 1980s and will be deployed along India's frontiers with China and Pakistan.
M 777 Howitzer, which was inducted into the Indian Army in November 2018, can be used in both plain and hilly terrains.
Significance of Army Day
Army Day is celebrated on January 15 every year. To commemorate the day when (then) Lieutenant General KM Cariappa took over General Sir Francis Butcher as Commander-in-Chief of India in January 1949.
The day is celebrated to honour our country's soldiers who set the greatest example of selfless service and brotherhood, and above all, love for the country.
We are proud to say that the Indian Army is one of the most powerful militaries of the world, competing with superpowers like US, Russia, and China.
Facts about the Indian Army
1. The Indian Army was formed in 1776 under the Government of the East India Company as a military department in Kolkata.
2. The motto of the Indian Army is 'service before self' and its mission is to ensure national security and national unity, defend the nation from external aggression and internal threats, and maintain peace and security within its borders.
3. Comprising 80 per cent of the country's active defense personnel, the Indian Army is the biggest volunteer army in the world.
4. The Indian soldiers are considered among the very best on high altitudes, jungle warfare, and mountain warfare. The Siachen conflict is considered as an exemplary example of mountain warfare.
5. Operation Rahat, carried out by the Indian Army to evacuate those affected by 2013 North India floods, is considered as one of the biggest civilian rescue operations in the world.
6. Baily Bridge in Ladakh, at the highest elevation in the world, was constructed by the Indian Army in 1982.
7. The Indian Army controls the highest battlefield in the world, Siachen glacier, 5000 metres above sea level.
8. The Indian horsed cavalry regiment is one of the last 3 remaining regiments in the world.
9. The Indian Army is one of the biggest contributors to the United Nations peace operations and has conducted large peace-time exercises like Operation Brasstacks and Exercise Shoorveer.
10. The Indian Army is one of the few armies in the world that has never initiated a war and its Peace Keeping Force is known for its counterinsurgency efforts.
11. Some of the iconic victories of India include Kargil war, Siachen conflict, Chola incident, Liberation of Goa, Liberation of Dadra and Nagar Haveli, 2nd and 3rd Indo-Pak war, Indo-Sino conflict of 1967; and major operations undertaken by the Indian Army are Operation Vijay, Operation Meghdoot, and Operation Cactus.
In a first, a lady officer will lead an Army contingent at the 71st Army Day parade
For the first time in the history of Indian Army, a lady officer will lead a contingent on the Army Day parade which is held every year on January 15. This is separate from the all-women marching contingent, which was led by a woman officer, Captain Divya Ajith, during the Republic Day parade in 2015.
Lieutenant Bhavana Kasturi will lead the Indian Army's Service Corps (ASC) contingent, comprising 144 male personnel, on the 71st Army Day parade.
Lt Kasturi said, "This is the first time ever a lady officer is leading a contingent. Earlier, never a lady officer led a jawans contingent."
She also lauded the Army for this opportunity and said, "This shows the kind of acceptance, the change and the evolutions which is happening in the entire organization. This shows acceptance for woman officers also."The ASC, which handles the logistic support function of the Army, is participating after a gap of 23 years in the parade.
2019 - A year of firsts
1. Apart from Lt Kasturi, Captain Shikha Surabhi, a female officer, will be leading the Army's Daredevils Motorcycle Display team for the first time, comprising 33 men riding nine bikes in a pyramid formation. The Daredevils is a part of the Army's Corps of Signals - a combat support arm that holds 24 world records, including the Guinness World Record.
Captain Shikha will be seen saluting the guests while riding a bike and the entire Daredevils contingent will be led by Major Manpreet Singh.
Captain Shikha practicing with the Daredevils team.(Image: ANI)
The team will also participate in the Republic Day parade on January 26, 2019, besides the Army Day parade.
The contingent will see two male officers as contingent commanders. Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Bipin Rawat will take salute on this occasion.
2. This year, the Army Day parade along with the Republic Day parade will also see, for the first time, display of M777 A2 Ultra Light Howitzer and K9 Vajra-T artillery.
The importance of these guns is that they are the first major artillery procurement since the Bofors were bought in the 1980s and will be deployed along India's frontiers with China and Pakistan.
M 777 Howitzer, which was inducted into the Indian Army in November 2018, can be used in both plain and hilly terrains.
Significance of Army Day
Army Day is celebrated on January 15 every year. To commemorate the day when (then) Lieutenant General KM Cariappa took over General Sir Francis Butcher as Commander-in-Chief of India in January 1949.
The day is celebrated to honour our country's soldiers who set the greatest example of selfless service and brotherhood, and above all, love for the country.
We are proud to say that the Indian Army is one of the most powerful militaries of the world, competing with superpowers like US, Russia, and China.
Facts about the Indian Army
1. The Indian Army was formed in 1776 under the Government of the East India Company as a military department in Kolkata.
2. The motto of the Indian Army is 'service before self' and its mission is to ensure national security and national unity, defend the nation from external aggression and internal threats, and maintain peace and security within its borders.
3. Comprising 80 per cent of the country's active defense personnel, the Indian Army is the biggest volunteer army in the world.
4. The Indian soldiers are considered among the very best on high altitudes, jungle warfare, and mountain warfare. The Siachen conflict is considered as an exemplary example of mountain warfare.
5. Operation Rahat, carried out by the Indian Army to evacuate those affected by 2013 North India floods, is considered as one of the biggest civilian rescue operations in the world.
6. Baily Bridge in Ladakh, at the highest elevation in the world, was constructed by the Indian Army in 1982.
7. The Indian Army controls the highest battlefield in the world, Siachen glacier, 5000 metres above sea level.
8. The Indian horsed cavalry regiment is one of the last 3 remaining regiments in the world.
9. The Indian Army is one of the biggest contributors to the United Nations peace operations and has conducted large peace-time exercises like Operation Brasstacks and Exercise Shoorveer.
10. The Indian Army is one of the few armies in the world that has never initiated a war and its Peace Keeping Force is known for its counterinsurgency efforts.
11. Some of the iconic victories of India include Kargil war, Siachen conflict, Chola incident, Liberation of Goa, Liberation of Dadra and Nagar Haveli, 2nd and 3rd Indo-Pak war, Indo-Sino conflict of 1967; and major operations undertaken by the Indian Army are Operation Vijay, Operation Meghdoot, and Operation Cactus.
In a first, a lady officer will lead an Army contingent at the 71st Army Day parade