Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

We also have to take into account pakistan's poor ISR and integration since they operate a bunch of systems from both the US and china, not all of them might be properly networked. I would still be highly wary of the HQ9 in a proper networked environment, it will probably perform pretty well for China.
HQ-9 failed to intercept crystal maze, multiple double taps yet it didn't scored any kill,
 
The HQ-19 seems to have Anti-satellite capabilities and anti ballistic missile capability. It's in the class of THAAD and SM-3. So we can't entirely discount it's capabilities. I'm surprised the Chinese are even sharing this tech but it's a generation behind their hq-29. It is reported to have the capability to intercept medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) and intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM) at the terminal stage, while offering limited capability to target intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) and low-altitude satellites.
The missile is guided by the Type 610A radar with 4,000 km (2,500 mi) of detection range, and the missile itself is capable of intercepting ballistic missiles on the 3,000 km (1,900 mi) range class.

The real question is how are the Pakistanis even able to afford this much(we knows its Chinese soft loans) but the infrastructure to setting it up will be highly costly.
This is not fully true. HQ-19 has altitude limit of 200 km. Its nowhere capable to intercept MRBM apogees of 400 KM, let alone IRBM. It is also not an ASAT weapon because even Sputnik 1 had an altitude of 215 KM.

PDV Mk2 for instance intercepted a satellite at 283KM altitude and can hit till 1000+ KM altitude.

China in past provided Pakistan with LY-80 (HQ-16) which is stated to be able to intercept tactical ballistic missiles. Noteworthy, India used a number of such missiles in Op Sindoor including Rampage and possibly LORA.

That being said, I hope India uses drones and LRAShM against HQ-19 and prove once and for all that it is not really effective in stopping India threat.
 
I believe missiles like Shaurya and LR-AShM would fly below the interception envelope of HQ-19. Shaurya flew at 40-50km during most of its flights and LR-AShM likely drops down as well to look for the target before final dive.

THAAD's minimum bracket is said to be 40km-ish. We can make a guess from there.

This is likely what inspired evolution of AD-1 missile which covers endo to low-exo atmosphere.
 
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I believe missiles like Shaurya and LR-AShM would fly below the interception envelope of HQ-19. Shaurya flew at 40-50km during most of its flights and LR-AShM likely drops down as well to look for the target before final dive.

THAAD's minimum bracket is said to be 40km-ish. We can make a guess from there.

This is likely what inspired evolution of AD-1 missile which covers endo to low-exo atmosphere.
In will be interesting to watch how well HQ-19 performs against manuvering missiles like Shaurya and LR-AShM. My bet is that HQ-19 is in general going to be ineffective against such missiles.
 

The Agni-V Mk2 (Divyastra) is an advanced, MIRV capable iteration of the Agni-V. Major improvements include replacement of maraging steel first stage casing with one manufactured using carbon composite filament winding, It is India's largest composite casing for now.

That, combined with the use of electromechanical actuators, rather than electro-hydraulic ones, for the flex nozzle control for all stages, have lead to weight savings as compared to the baseline Agni-V, which weighed around 50 tons.

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The PBV may be separate from the 3rd stage.
 
I believe missiles like Shaurya and LR-AShM would fly below the interception envelope of HQ-19. Shaurya flew at 40-50km during most of its flights and LR-AShM likely drops down as well to look for the target before final dive.

THAAD's minimum bracket is said to be 40km-ish. We can make a guess from there.

This is likely what inspired evolution of AD-1 missile which covers endo to low-exo atmosphere.
They still haven't found the counter to the Brahmos. Imagine Pakistanis investing so much and still losing HQ-19's to Brahmos.
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Pretty useful stuff to have inspite of coming under a less "high-tech" category.
Only the iron dome can reliably intercept this nothing else.
 
We also have to take into account pakistan's poor ISR and integration since they operate a bunch of systems from both the US and china, not all of them might be properly networked. I would still be highly wary of the HQ9 in a proper networked environment, it will probably perform pretty well for China.
The fact that HQ-9 were stationed in lahore and were active, they had info of upcoming attack, and it failed to intercept the missiles not a single one, which doesn't gives me confidence on the system,
As you said there are lot of factors do be considered how the system performs, in networked environment it will be bigger threat,
In the upcoming operation there needs to be a proper SEAD/DEAD mission, India has the weapons which can perform sead/ dead missions and the weapons can be mass produced,
Don't want to see them improvising & adapting in the middle, it should be proper kill from the start
 
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Only the iron dome can reliably intercept this nothing else.
Iron done can't intercept those missile, it's not build for that role, it's bulit for unguided rockets, rocket artillery, uavs, small drones, mortars, artillery rounds,

It doesn't have the necessary speed nor other features,
For that Barak 8, David sling, Arrow,
 
In will be interesting to watch how well HQ-19 performs against manuvering missiles like Shaurya and LR-AShM.
Intercepting LR-AShM is a impossible task, the missile never leaves the Earth atmosphere, and the booster is specially designed for it to powered throughout the flight, after the initial booster separation, something flying at depressed trajectory with High speed and manuverable it becomes harder to intercept it, as the reaction time decrease significantly, without networked AD, you can't be able to intercept them, you definitely need OTH radars, and other assets, and for Pakistan the reaction time Will be couple of minutes, the missile has a top speed of Mach 10,
Even intercepting pralay would be also a difficult job for Pakistan,
 
The fact that HQ-9 were stationed in lahore and were active, they had info of upcoming attack, and it failed to intercept the missiles not a single one, which doesn't gives me confidence on the system,
As you said there are lot of factors do be considered how the system performs, in networked environment it will be bigger threat,
In the upcoming operation there needs to be a proper SEAD/DEAD mission, India has the weapons which can perform sead/ dead missions and the weapons can be mass produced,
Don't want to see them improvising & adapting in the middle, it should be proper kill from the start
HQ-19 are a generation behind in terms of technical capabilities. The Chinese are using the hq-29. It's closed to s-300/THAAD. The real question is how will the Pakistanis use it against us. Will it be used as a ABM system or will they use it to target HVA assets like AWACS.
 
Looking at the length, path and size of the NOTAM AREA , it looks like some Air To Air Missile test. It is either ASTRA MK2 ER (240 km) or, GANDIVA (350 km).
The NOTAM AREA is uniform and absolute straight.
But in can also be a SAM (Surface to Air) Missile system (because the V-limit is given unlimited), may be KUSHA , though in that case generally NOTAM AREA is much wider for maneuvering.
Let's see what happens.
 
Looking at the length, path and size of the NOTAM AREA , it looks like some Air To Air Missile test. It is either ASTRA MK2 ER (240 km) or, GANDIVA (350 km).
The NOTAM AREA is uniform and absolute straight.
But in can also be a SAM (Surface to Air) Missile system (because the V-limit is given unlimited), may be KUSHA , though in that case generally NOTAM AREA is much wider for maneuvering.
Let's see what happens.
This has the looks of a long range unguided firing (ballistic trajectory). Or A2G munition
 

DRDO completes development trials of Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Launched Precision Guided Missile-V3 in Air-to-Ground & Air-to-Air modes


Posted On: 19 MAY 2026 9:50PM by PIB Delhi​


Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) has successfully completed the final deliverable configuration development trials of Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Launched Precision Guided Missile (ULPGM)-V3 in Air-to-Ground and Air-to-Air modes at DRDO test range near Kurnool, Andhra Pradesh. The trials were carried out using an integrated Ground Control System (GCS) to command and control the ULPGM weapon system. The GCS features state-of-the-art technologies to automate readiness and launch operations.

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DRDO has partnered with two production agencies - Bharat Dynamics Limited, Hyderabad and Adani Defence Systems & Technologies Limited, Hyderabad - for the development and production of the missiles. The system has been integrated on UAVs developed by Newspace Research and Technologies, Bengaluru for current trials.

The ULPGM missile has been developed by Research Centre Imarat, Hyderabad as the nodal lab along with other DRDO laboratories namely Defence Research & Development Laboratory (DRDL) Hyderabad, Terminal Ballistics Research Laboratory (TBRL), Chandigarh and High Energy Materials Research Laboratory (HEMRL), Pune.

The missile has been produced entirely through the Indian defence ecosystem involving a large number of MSMEs and other industries. The trials confirmed fully mature domestic supply chain, equipped for immediate serial mass production.

Raksha Mantri Shri Rajnath Singh has complimented DRDO, PSUs, Defence cum Production Partners and industry for the successful development trials of ULPGM-V3 in Air-to-Ground mode for anti-tank role and Air-to-Air modes for Drone, Helicopter and other airborne targets. He termed it a strategic milestone achieved towards Aatmanirbharta in Defence.