Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

[Gautam]

Ah now it becoming frustrating useless labs like ADE and GTRE can't develop anything properly.

We have to wait to see the root cause, It's a new engine we are trying to integrate

The problem was probably in the GNC kit, not the engine.

IF, these actually get productized in time...

In time for what ? There will always be some milestone event coming up. Its important that we keep building. The tech isn't anything too fancy, just big solid rockets with some good guidance systems.

 

[Ashwin]

Another one to add to the general confusion

https://twitter.com/x/status/1315290185232384000

And don't get discouraged , more are on the way

I think it's better to have a separate rudram series thread.

 

[Saaho]

In time for what ? There will always be some milestone event coming up. Its important that we keep building. The tech isn't anything too fancy, just big solid rockets with some good guidance systems.

In time before they become obsolete.

Nirbhay test Fails

That should lay all the rumors of it being deployed to rest.

 

[Chain Smoker]

The problem was probably in the GNC kit, not the engine.



In time for what ? There will always be some milestone event coming up. Its important that we keep building. The tech isn't anything too fancy, just big solid rockets with some good guidance systems.

And that GNC kit is supplied by RCI . It happened before also.

 

[Saaho]

And that GNC kit is supplied by RCI . It happened before also.

There has been multiple reasons behind its failure. Lets say, this missile is our albatross. For the time being atleast.

 

[STEPHEN COHEN]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1316003298197921792

 

[Ankit Kumar]

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yKFeun0i...RO_WgeEFgCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/Indigenous+PGMs.jpg

 

[AbRaj]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1316003298197921792

Why our slbm looks Marasmic in comparison to say Russia or Chyna.
NoKo’s slbm for reference @hellbent

Vs

 

[Chain Smoker]

Why our slbm looks Marasmic in comparison to say Russia or Chyna.
NoKo’s slbm for reference @hellbentView attachment 18261

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compare the range of k15 with these SLBM u will get to know. Btw have u seen k4.

 

[AbRaj]

compare the range of k15 with these SLBM u will get to know. Btw have u seen k4.

No, neither K4, 5,6 or for sake of your information K 69

 

[Saaho]

Why our slbm looks Marasmic in comparison to say Russia or Chyna.

This is JL-1 vs JL-2




It should give you an idea why our missiles look so stunted. Basically, we are now having a missile deloyed which China had in late 80s to early 90s. Though our subs are a bit better than their Xia class subs.

 

[vstol Jockey]

All reasons are wrong. Our missiles are designed as per what has been laid down by Prof. Bobeye.

 

[AbRaj]

All reasons are wrong. Our missiles are designed as per what has been laid down by Prof. Bobeye.

But professor Bobeye never visited India. I’ve seen his biography on cartoon channel

 

[Lolwa]

Why our slbm looks Marasmic in comparison to say Russia or Chyna.
NoKo’s slbm for reference @hellbentView attachment 18261

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Because it is not a an slbm. It's more like a cruise missile though it's ballistic in trajectory. I hope we convert arihant into a ssgn will be much bigger capability upgrade compared to useless ssbn's..

 

[vstol Jockey]

But professor Bobeye never visited India. I’ve seen his biography on cartoon channel

But we read his cartoons.

 

[Chain Smoker]

is this true.
@Gautam

https://twitter.com/x/status/1316353413945257985

 

[_Anonymous_]

is this true.
@Gautam

https://twitter.com/x/status/1316353413945257985

Look up the TL of the Brahmos & how long did it take us to develop various components of it viz seeker, booster & propulsion systems. FYI - we've still not developed the ramjet engine & it's about 18 years since we've inducted the 1st Brahmos. That should give you a fair idea.

You could refer to the Nirbhay too. We began preliminary work on it in 2010 & we've just about developed the Manik turbofan which isn't a mature time tested product by any yardstick.

 

[hellbent]

Why our slbm looks Marasmic in comparison to say Russia or Chyna.
NoKo’s slbm for reference @hellbentView attachment 18261

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There is a natural progression to capabilities , Rome was not built in a day

Especially if you're doing it on your own.

 

[hellbent]

Look up the TL of the Brahmos & how long did it take us to develop various components of it viz seeker, booster & propulsion systems. FYI - we've still not developed the ramjet engine & it's about 18 years since we've inducted the 1st Brahmos. That should give you a fair idea.

You could refer to the Nirbhay too. We began preliminary work on it in 2010 & we've just about developed the Manik turbofan which isn't a mature time tested product by any yardstick.

You do realise brahmos is a JV and hence prone to shenanigans of the other partner.

The vijander guys is a Russian fanboy and ironically he is ex military

I am wondering how the heck did he mange to compare indian seekers , data links with foreign ones without access to the Indian sub systems vis a vis corresponding foreign products.

 

[Gautam]

is this true.
@Gautam

https://twitter.com/x/status/1316353413945257985

I remember regularly reading his posts a long time back. Then I gave up as I saw increasing inconsistencies.

When the first test of the Nirbhay failed, he claimed India doesn't have any capabilities etc etc. Second test succeeded, he claimed the Russians helped us. 3rd test failed again, he started with the routine of DRDO can't do anything. So the saga continues. I have seen this pattern before.

His reporting of the Astra missiles development is no better. Same story. When news came of the development of a Ku band radar, he claimed DRDO can't do it as they have no prior experience. The rest is history.

How many days has it been since we tested the HSTDV or the SMART ? Both path breaking in their own right. Those missiles are 80s tech ? I used to admire his & Ajay Shukla's reporting. I also used to believe all ex-military guys must be undoubtedly great experts & will never have any ulterior motives. Then a gentleman by the name Panag came along. I rest my case.

Draw your conclusions mate, I have drawn mine.