I have corrected the mistake. It is 750ft/min ROD or vertical speed.
Randomly found this, bahut overacting
Does INAS 551 still operate Kiran? Or was it replaced by Hawk?
@vstol Jockey
They can reactivate INAS 552 which used to have harriers with NLCA.
Original naval air arm list of sqd from IN website from 2014 : Indian Naval Air Squadrons : Naval Fleet : Indian Navy
Updated list on Wiki : List of Indian naval air squadrons - Wikipedia
Kirans have been phased out. INAS552 might be resurrected to act as deck landing training squadron.
Randomly found this, bahut overacting
Does INAS 551 still operate Kiran? Or was it replaced by Hawk?
@vstol Jockey
They can reactivate INAS 552 which used to have harriers with NLCA.
Every second on board INS Vikramaditya precious for NLCA, crew
Bengaluru: India scripted naval history this weekend with the fighter variant of home-grown naval prototype (NP-2) of Light Combat Aircraft (NLCA) undertaking its maiden carrier landing on (arrested) and take-off (ski-jump) from the deck of INS Vikramaditya, successfully.
Piloted by one of the finest test pilots Cmde Jaideep Avinash Maolankar of the National Flight Test Centre in Bengaluru, the NLCA had its first-ever overnight stay (Saturday) on board the mighty aircraft carrier, only to wake up on a bright Sunday morning (January 12) to undertake its first take-off from the ship deck.
After take-off, the plane headed to Goa on Sunday evening probably paving way to its trainer variant (NP-1) to repeat the arrested-landing and ski-jump take-off during this week.
Sources told Onmanorama that Capt Shivnath Dahiya (Dax) is likely to undertake the mission on NP-1 soon. NP-1 is said to have undertaken some touch and go missions on INS Vikramaditya on Sunday afternoon ahead of NP-2's maiden ski-jump take-off.
The first ski-jump from the carrier on Sunday was a major event and the aircraft needed to be checked thoroughly before undertaking it. These checks were said to be a blessing in disguise as it helped the aircraft understand the ship's environment.
Priceless experience
For the entire NLCA crew, including various support teams from Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), Centre for Military Airworthiness and Certification (CEMILAC) and NFTC the experience of being on board INS Vikramaditya has been priceless.
"After completing trials on the SBTF (Shore Based Test Facility) successfully, NLCA did numerous approaches and touch and go on INS Vikramaditya. The first arrested landing and ski-jump take-off were successfully executed as per the plans," said an official.
The campaign team executed every step carefully ensuring safety of the ship and its assets.
"Every second on INS Vikramaditya will be precious for the entire team and NLCA. There cannot be a bigger learning than being on the carrier and quickly understanding the nuances, because on a carrier you don't have the luxuries of operating on the shore," said the official.
While the first few landings and take-offs will be done with at most care, the subsequent ones will be undertaken at a faster rate.
"All cautions will be applied as per the SOP, but the confidence of the pilots and the support crew will be higher. The ski-jump was flawless and we have proven many technologies on the deck. We plan to undertake a total of about 20 cycles in the next few days. Subsequent landings and takeoffs will be in quick succession to get the data," the official added.
Carrier lessons
Making NLCA ready for a ski-jump every time from INS Vikramaditya will give the crew new insights into the maintainability aspects.
"One must understand that everything we undertake on board the carrier will be for the first time. It gives us a opportunity to operate on the ship and below the deck. Important lessons about maintainability on the ship for each one of us," said a scientist part of the detachment now at Goa.
When asked why NLCA did not undertake the ski-jump on the same day as it did the arrested landing, the scientist said that it would have deprived them of the below-the-deck-experience.
"If we would have taken off immediately, we would not have been able to expose the aircraft to the environment on and below the deck. Time on an operational carrier for a developmental aircraft is not only precious, but very rare. So every second is precious," he added.
Among the many technologies that were to be tested, the alignment of INS (Inertial Navigational System) on the moving deck is said to be the most significant one.
"We have the software implemented for that and we will be checking it out. It is done normally when the aircraft is stationary on a known reference. Now since the ship is moving, there is no fixed reference even if the aircraft is stationary. It is a complex procedure of interfacing with the ship's INS and using that to align with the aircraft's INS. The avionics software has built this feature which can be tested out now," says the scientist, now with the project for over a decade.
"It is critical for the aircraft navigation in air," he added.
For the HAL crew on board, there couldn't have been a better opportunity to understand the upkeep of a fighter with very limited space available.
"The below-the-deck-hangar is very congested. The support crew is getting invaluable experience of operating the aircraft in the hangar. It is quite different from a hangar on land," he adds.
Landmark event
The Indian Navy termed NLCA's achievement as another important milestone.
"This landmark event demonstrates professional commitment and synergy between various agencies ADA, HAL, CEMILAC and Indian Navy in harnessing the potential of our scientists, engineers and naval flight testing community towards meeting the expectations of the nation," an official tweet read.
HAL Chairman R Madhavan said that the NLCA's successful deck operations will be a great boost to the indigenous efforts.
"Our contributions included landing gear, arrestor hook and support staff controlling at SBTF along with Indian Navy," Madhavan said.
When asked how significant the deck-landing and take-off is for India's naval aviation, Cmde C D Balaji (Retd), former Programme Director (LCA Navy) and Director ADA, said it was a proud moment for every Indian.
"I feel proud to have been involved actively right from the government approvals till flight-testing. The 'paper to flight' achievement is significant as we have mastered the nuances involved in the development, simulation, flight tests, conceptualization and build of various facilities including the SBTF. This achievement needs to be written in 'golden letters and it has given us the capability and confidence to develop our own deck-based aircraft," Cmde Balaji (Retd) said.
To a query, how the current events would augur for NLCA's future, he said that the Indian Navy should have a squadron of NLCA Mk1 to operate from the aircraft carrier.
"Whilst we can certainly design and develop a twin-engine deck based aircraft, I strongly believe that we should have a squadron of NLCA MK1 to operate from the aircraft carrier. This will help in understanding the aspects of consolidation of carrier-borne operations, maintenance, ground handling and development of procedures. I hope that the Indian Navy will favourably consider this," he said.
Speaking to Onmanorma, aviation writer and a former Indian Navy Test Pilot Cdr K P Sanjeev Kumar (Retd) said that the NLCA broke new ground with the current mission.
"Identify the right talent who speak, write and work fearlessly. If he or she has an audacious idea, nurture it, protect it and let it grow. Motivate small teams to go for big challenges," Cdr Sanjeev (Retd), widely known as 'KPS', said.
According to him, indigenisation doesn't have to mean everything to be made in India.
"An airplane is more than the sum of its parts. We must aim to become ace systems integrators. Invest and groom human capital. That's a veritable goldmine here in India," KPS said.
On the key takeaways India has got from the NLCA mission, KPS said that the field should be leveled for the private industry.
"We must have our own Blackbird or Raider streaking across the Indian skies one day. Believing it will happen through DPM (Defence Procurement Manual), DPP (Defense Procurement Procedure) or SP (Strategic Partnership) model is to live in a fool's paradise," he added.
Mao Magic
Cmde Jaideep Avinash Maolankar, a Test Pilot with NFTC, who undertook the maiden carrier landing and take-off missions of NLCA . Photo: Sanjay Simha
Man of the moment Maolankar (Mao) is being hailed as a true champion by people from all walks of life for standing rock solid behind the NLCA programme, despite it going through several rough patches in the last one decade.
"His selfless work, including even letting go of his promotions, swallowing insults and many more is a testimony to his commitment, belief and integrity to the project. Extremely difficult to find such people in any organisation, leave alone in the government or in the military," said Sanjay Simha, one of the popular aviation shutterbugs in India.
Interestingly, in 2016, while giving a talk to a closed-door audience at National Aerospace Laboratories in Bengaluru, Mao batted for more support to the NLCA programme.
He had urged the need to break away from the shore-based mindset which is often hampering the pace of the home-grown naval fighter jet programme. He also wanted the resources devoted to naval flight operations hiked in addition to the Navy fighter jet programme being made a stand-alone mission.
"We cannot have an Indian Air Force programme linked to a naval one. We need to design airplanes that can survive sea and ship deck for 30 years," Mao had said during the talk.
"Taking a fighter to sea, attempting to land on a ship deck and later taking-off is a completely different ball game: There are many complexities involved," Mao had said.
Bengaluru: India scripted naval history this weekend with the fighter variant of home-grown naval prototype (NP-2) of Light Combat Aircraft (NLCA) undertaking its maiden carrier landing on (arrested) and take-off (ski-jump) from the deck of INS Vikramaditya, successfully.
Piloted by one of the finest test pilots Cmde Jaideep Avinash Maolankar of the National Flight Test Centre in Bengaluru, the NLCA had its first-ever overnight stay (Saturday) on board the mighty aircraft carrier, only to wake up on a bright Sunday morning (January 12) to undertake its first take-off from the ship deck.
After take-off, the plane headed to Goa on Sunday evening probably paving way to its trainer variant (NP-1) to repeat the arrested-landing and ski-jump take-off during this week.
Sources told Onmanorama that Capt Shivnath Dahiya (Dax) is likely to undertake the mission on NP-1 soon. NP-1 is said to have undertaken some touch and go missions on INS Vikramaditya on Sunday afternoon ahead of NP-2's maiden ski-jump take-off.
The first ski-jump from the carrier on Sunday was a major event and the aircraft needed to be checked thoroughly before undertaking it. These checks were said to be a blessing in disguise as it helped the aircraft understand the ship's environment.
Priceless experience
For the entire NLCA crew, including various support teams from Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), Centre for Military Airworthiness and Certification (CEMILAC) and NFTC the experience of being on board INS Vikramaditya has been priceless.
"After completing trials on the SBTF (Shore Based Test Facility) successfully, NLCA did numerous approaches and touch and go on INS Vikramaditya. The first arrested landing and ski-jump take-off were successfully executed as per the plans," said an official.
The campaign team executed every step carefully ensuring safety of the ship and its assets.
"Every second on INS Vikramaditya will be precious for the entire team and NLCA. There cannot be a bigger learning than being on the carrier and quickly understanding the nuances, because on a carrier you don't have the luxuries of operating on the shore," said the official.
While the first few landings and take-offs will be done with at most care, the subsequent ones will be undertaken at a faster rate.
"All cautions will be applied as per the SOP, but the confidence of the pilots and the support crew will be higher. The ski-jump was flawless and we have proven many technologies on the deck. We plan to undertake a total of about 20 cycles in the next few days. Subsequent landings and takeoffs will be in quick succession to get the data," the official added.
Carrier lessons
Making NLCA ready for a ski-jump every time from INS Vikramaditya will give the crew new insights into the maintainability aspects.
"One must understand that everything we undertake on board the carrier will be for the first time. It gives us a opportunity to operate on the ship and below the deck. Important lessons about maintainability on the ship for each one of us," said a scientist part of the detachment now at Goa.
When asked why NLCA did not undertake the ski-jump on the same day as it did the arrested landing, the scientist said that it would have deprived them of the below-the-deck-experience.
"If we would have taken off immediately, we would not have been able to expose the aircraft to the environment on and below the deck. Time on an operational carrier for a developmental aircraft is not only precious, but very rare. So every second is precious," he added.
Among the many technologies that were to be tested, the alignment of INS (Inertial Navigational System) on the moving deck is said to be the most significant one.
"We have the software implemented for that and we will be checking it out. It is done normally when the aircraft is stationary on a known reference. Now since the ship is moving, there is no fixed reference even if the aircraft is stationary. It is a complex procedure of interfacing with the ship's INS and using that to align with the aircraft's INS. The avionics software has built this feature which can be tested out now," says the scientist, now with the project for over a decade.
"It is critical for the aircraft navigation in air," he added.
For the HAL crew on board, there couldn't have been a better opportunity to understand the upkeep of a fighter with very limited space available.
"The below-the-deck-hangar is very congested. The support crew is getting invaluable experience of operating the aircraft in the hangar. It is quite different from a hangar on land," he adds.
Landmark event
The Indian Navy termed NLCA's achievement as another important milestone.
"This landmark event demonstrates professional commitment and synergy between various agencies ADA, HAL, CEMILAC and Indian Navy in harnessing the potential of our scientists, engineers and naval flight testing community towards meeting the expectations of the nation," an official tweet read.
HAL Chairman R Madhavan said that the NLCA's successful deck operations will be a great boost to the indigenous efforts.
"Our contributions included landing gear, arrestor hook and support staff controlling at SBTF along with Indian Navy," Madhavan said.
When asked how significant the deck-landing and take-off is for India's naval aviation, Cmde C D Balaji (Retd), former Programme Director (LCA Navy) and Director ADA, said it was a proud moment for every Indian.
"I feel proud to have been involved actively right from the government approvals till flight-testing. The 'paper to flight' achievement is significant as we have mastered the nuances involved in the development, simulation, flight tests, conceptualization and build of various facilities including the SBTF. This achievement needs to be written in 'golden letters and it has given us the capability and confidence to develop our own deck-based aircraft," Cmde Balaji (Retd) said.
To a query, how the current events would augur for NLCA's future, he said that the Indian Navy should have a squadron of NLCA Mk1 to operate from the aircraft carrier.
"Whilst we can certainly design and develop a twin-engine deck based aircraft, I strongly believe that we should have a squadron of NLCA MK1 to operate from the aircraft carrier. This will help in understanding the aspects of consolidation of carrier-borne operations, maintenance, ground handling and development of procedures. I hope that the Indian Navy will favourably consider this," he said.
Speaking to Onmanorma, aviation writer and a former Indian Navy Test Pilot Cdr K P Sanjeev Kumar (Retd) said that the NLCA broke new ground with the current mission.
"Identify the right talent who speak, write and work fearlessly. If he or she has an audacious idea, nurture it, protect it and let it grow. Motivate small teams to go for big challenges," Cdr Sanjeev (Retd), widely known as 'KPS', said.
According to him, indigenisation doesn't have to mean everything to be made in India.
"An airplane is more than the sum of its parts. We must aim to become ace systems integrators. Invest and groom human capital. That's a veritable goldmine here in India," KPS said.
On the key takeaways India has got from the NLCA mission, KPS said that the field should be leveled for the private industry.
"We must have our own Blackbird or Raider streaking across the Indian skies one day. Believing it will happen through DPM (Defence Procurement Manual), DPP (Defense Procurement Procedure) or SP (Strategic Partnership) model is to live in a fool's paradise," he added.
Mao Magic
Cmde Jaideep Avinash Maolankar, a Test Pilot with NFTC, who undertook the maiden carrier landing and take-off missions of NLCA . Photo: Sanjay Simha
Man of the moment Maolankar (Mao) is being hailed as a true champion by people from all walks of life for standing rock solid behind the NLCA programme, despite it going through several rough patches in the last one decade.
"His selfless work, including even letting go of his promotions, swallowing insults and many more is a testimony to his commitment, belief and integrity to the project. Extremely difficult to find such people in any organisation, leave alone in the government or in the military," said Sanjay Simha, one of the popular aviation shutterbugs in India.
Interestingly, in 2016, while giving a talk to a closed-door audience at National Aerospace Laboratories in Bengaluru, Mao batted for more support to the NLCA programme.
He had urged the need to break away from the shore-based mindset which is often hampering the pace of the home-grown naval fighter jet programme. He also wanted the resources devoted to naval flight operations hiked in addition to the Navy fighter jet programme being made a stand-alone mission.
"We cannot have an Indian Air Force programme linked to a naval one. We need to design airplanes that can survive sea and ship deck for 30 years," Mao had said during the talk.
"Taking a fighter to sea, attempting to land on a ship deck and later taking-off is a completely different ball game: There are many complexities involved," Mao had said.
Read as: succession
— Anantha Krishnan M🇮🇳 (@writetake) January 14, 2020
Confirmations now come in that Dax made another landing on #INSVikramaditya flying NP1, minutes after his first touchdown. As this tweet flies out, hot refueling on ship is on for more sorties. Some action there folks!!#NLCA #INSVikramaditya @indiannavy @DRDO_India @realkaypius
— Anantha Krishnan M🇮🇳 (@writetake) January 14, 2020
#NLCA update
— Anantha Krishnan M🇮🇳 (@writetake) January 14, 2020
NP1 took off around 1.30 pm & did over shoots for practice followed by trap. Hot refuelled took off & did one more trap. Hot refuelled & returned to base. So 2 arrested landings & 2 ski-jump takeoffs from #INSVikramaditya in a single sortie.@indiannavy @akananth
News from #NLCA campaign is both NP1 & NP2 have completed 12 cycles of arrested landings & ski-jump take-offs from #INSVikramaditya. Today both have performed 3 each, while yesterday 2+3. So, 1 (Day 1)+2+3 (Day 2)+3+3 (Day 3)=12. Both planes are holding good folks! Great job! pic.twitter.com/SInDTwysO0
— Anantha Krishnan M🇮🇳 (@writetake) January 15, 2020
#WATCH taking off of Naval LCA Tejas, from the aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya in the Arabian Sea. (12.01.2020) pic.twitter.com/LR0m0BMn3D
— ANI (@ANI) January 15, 2020
News from #NLCA campaign is both NP1 & NP2 have completed 12 cycles of arrested landings & ski-jump take-offs from #INSVikramaditya. Today both have performed 3 each, while yesterday 2+3. So, 1 (Day 1)+2+3 (Day 2)+3+3 (Day 3)=12. Both planes are holding good folks! Great job! pic.twitter.com/SInDTwysO0
— Anantha Krishnan M🇮🇳 (@writetake) January 15, 2020
Damn !
News from #NLCA campaign is both NP1 & NP2 have completed 12 cycles of arrested landings & ski-jump take-offs from #INSVikramaditya. Today both have performed 3 each, while yesterday 2+3. So, 1 (Day 1)+2+3 (Day 2)+3+3 (Day 3)=12. Both planes are holding good folks! Great job! pic.twitter.com/SInDTwysO0
— Anantha Krishnan M🇮🇳 (@writetake) January 15, 2020
😍 Another video of the N-LCA’s first launch off the ski jump on INS Vikramaditya. 2 N-LCA prototypes have completed multiple launches & landings in the last 3 days, with more in the week ahead. Our report: https://t.co/DEnFYjTcV6 pic.twitter.com/rYnyMTyWHg
— Livefist (@livefist) January 15, 2020
What's the overall flights of all the tejas? Crossed 4000 ?
Earlier I used to wait.. And crib at about 20 flights per month.
Here just 2 tejas doing that..
Earlier I used to wait.. And crib at about 20 flights per month.
Here just 2 tejas doing that..
Is the navy now agreeing to go ahead with nlca or is it still a tech demo. The pace of testing seems to suggest that the nlca may see green light soon
Tech demo only.
Range & Payload is essential.
I think IN would have given that 10 days window.. From operational preparedness..
People are trying collect as much as data as possible.
IN had initially committed to buying 6 N-LCA 2-seat trainers. But they have put that on hold. They do not want to operate single engine jets from carriers.
